After season 9 is out and bugs are fixed I believe they must get there attention to the Romulus & Cardessian Story lines They are Old and Ugly Desperately need a boost a upgrade !!! :P
What you think ?
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After season 9 is out and bugs are fixed I believe they must get there attention to the Romulus & Cardessian Story lines They are Old and Ugly Desperately need a boost a upgrade !!! :P
What you think ?
I think the story line are fine.
They should do NEW missions.
The old missions might not look as polished, but they are perfectly fine and in some ways better then the new and reworked ones.
Not sure about the Romulan, but the Cardassian storyline definitely needs help.
Warning, spoilers to follow:
There is that mission where one supposedly benevolent person is revealed to be Dukat's daughter and working with the Pagh wraith. The whole story falls flat because the character is introduced in that mission only. If that was suppsoed to surprise someone or affect someone emotionally, she should have been appearing in earlier episodes and had done something to earn your trust. Only then can her betrayal be felt.
Of course, the missions look often badly compared to newer missions, too. But the worst offender may be the Deep Space Nine interior... If that can get a ESD-level revamp in Season 10, I'd be really happy.
With the Undine active on Bajor one may wonder what they are doing in the Dominion - so setting Season 10 on DS9 and the Gamma Quadrant could work great. (And think about all the fun you could have with two shapeshifting aliens mucking things up! The chance for intrigue might be great.)
Star Trek Online Advancement: You start with lowbie gear, you end with Lobi gear.
Bugs fixed? If you wait for Bugs getting fixed you will never see a new season at all. :rolleyes:
Nonetheless there are certain loose ends that needs to find an end within their story, instead of open up new senseless Pseudo-Story parts every few weeks.
Futhermore they should develop the rest of New Romulus and expedite the Romulan Story Chain, instead of that shameful voth story.
Not sure about the Romulan, but the Cardassian storyline definitely needs help.
Warning, spoilers to follow:
There is that mission where one supposedly benevolent person is revealed to be Dukat's daughter and working with the Pagh wraith. The whole story falls flat because the character is introduced in that mission only. If that was suppsoed to surprise someone or affect someone emotionally, she should have been appearing in earlier episodes and had done something to earn your trust. Only then can her betrayal be felt.
Of course, the missions look often badly compared to newer missions, too. But the worst offender may be the Deep Space Nine interior... If that can get a ESD-level revamp in Season 10, I'd be really happy.
With the Undine active on Bajor one may wonder what they are doing in the Dominion - so setting Season 10 on DS9 and the Gamma Quadrant could work great. (And think about all the fun you could have with two shapeshifting aliens mucking things up! The chance for intrigue might be great.)
pah'wraiths were sealed forever in the firecaves when the kosst amojan book was destroyed with no way to bring them back, so this storyline should not of happened at all on sto. not sure who wrote it and brought it to sto, but if there is ever to be a cardassian storyline upgrade, this whole current mission should be eliminated.
as for the romulans though, well some of it is integral to the iconian plot to the romulan republic seen from the federation side, however some of these missions are just... horrible.
i could see some improvement there, but not much beyond that.
T6 Miranda Hero Ship FTW. Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
With the Undine active on Bajor one may wonder what they are doing in the Dominion - so setting Season 10 on DS9 and the Gamma Quadrant could work great. (And think about all the fun you could have with two shapeshifting aliens mucking things up! The chance for intrigue might be great.)
Imagine having the Dominion pulling our arses out of the fire with the Undine :cool:.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
pah'wraiths were sealed forever in the firecaves when the kosst amojan book was destroyed with no way to bring them back, so this storyline should not of happened at all on sto. not sure who wrote it and brought it to sto, but if there is ever to be a cardassian storyline upgrade, this whole current mission should be eliminated.
Gecko claims that everything is possible in Star Trek....:rolleyes:
So there isn't anything that wouldn't be too dumb for them to implement it in Star Grind Online...
After season 9 is out and bugs are fixed I believe they must get there attention to the Romulus & Cardessian Story lines They are Old and Ugly Desperately need a boost a upgrade !!! :P
What you think ?
I think they'll continue fixing missions along the way.
The thing they need to fix the most right now will be how the other reputations behave in so far as how their ground options generate marks for players and the worlds involved and how they look and act missing worlds and many of them like Andoria are terrible.
I also think they'll need to be giving serious thought into skills post Season 9 because there are still alot that haven't been properly fixed in space.
I personally hope that they use their new kit system to add new skill modules to the game for ground options and add tricorders as a ground slot.
pah'wraiths were sealed forever in the firecaves when the kosst amojan book was destroyed with no way to bring them back, so this storyline should not of happened at all on sto. not sure who wrote it and brought it to sto, but if there is ever to be a cardassian storyline upgrade, this whole current mission should be eliminated.
as for the romulans though, well some of it is integral to the iconian plot to the romulan republic seen from the federation side, however some of these missions are just... horrible.
i could see some improvement there, but not much beyond that.
Forever is a long time. Particular for a race that doesn't have a concept of time. Doesn't really matter, though - if you want a treachery to be meaningful, you better find a way to make it have notable impact.
The Romulan mission with the Undine Admiral making you kill innocent Romulans does it a bit better, in that you realize what horrible things you did for her. But of course, it fails because you are not allowed to question your orders and they become questionable very, very early.
maybe that's another part where some treachery could be a string of episodes. Imagine first executing missions for that Undine that seem to make sense, and then suddenly realize that you worked for a greater plan against the Federation and Romulan interests.
Star Trek Online Advancement: You start with lowbie gear, you end with Lobi gear.
After Season 9 comes the new Expansion Pack; which is rumored to expand the Delta Quadrant for play. It will probably be Season 10 or 11 before they get around to sprucing existing Card and Rom Missions. And as others have said, it is far more important to get new Missions into the game rather then just making existing ones seem cooler.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
The Fed Romulan story arc could use a quality pass. But it's not really a priority I would think.
Cryptic had a chance to do a quality pass to the Cardassian arc with Legacy of Romulus, but only chose to do minor touch-ups and add faction specific dialogue for all 3 factions. Probably just didn't have the time.
Agreed in some ways, if you did start a new char last month you seen what a improvement they made in most of the beginning missions. They did a very nice job on the line, and after season 9 they properly will have an 9.5 as update and I hope they at least will get rid off the divide the empera or give it a very smooth up grade to those missions.
Because like it or not there lot of bugs in those missions that can be easaly be solved.
Also the Cardessian missions are really need a fix as you players pointed out. the weekly episodes need a fix, there horrible to play with a lot of bugs in it.
This must be done to attract new gamers into Star Trek Online otherwise it would make no sense, first they have a smooth ride true missions then they gut a hell true Romulus story arc and after that the cardessian story arc.
They can do much much better and if you start a new character I believe it is important to have that story arc to VA shorter and much smoother....
Greets
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
"Coffee: the finest organic suspension ever devised. It's got me through the worst of the last three years. I beat the Borg with it."
pah'wraiths were sealed forever in the firecaves when the kosst amojan book was destroyed with no way to bring them back, so this storyline should not of happened at all on sto. not sure who wrote it and brought it to sto, but if there is ever to be a cardassian storyline upgrade, this whole current mission should be eliminated.
as for the romulans though, well some of it is integral to the iconian plot to the romulan republic seen from the federation side, however some of these missions are just... horrible.
i could see some improvement there, but not much beyond that.
maybe they got a copy of the book from the mirror universe
Trophies for killing FEDS ahh those were the days.
After season 9 is out and bugs are fixed I believe they must get there attention to the Romulus & Cardessian Story lines They are Old and Ugly Desperately need a boost a upgrade !!! :P
What you think ?
The Romulans are the Johnny-come-latelies of STO. Their storyline still has that "new storyline smell." Your definition of "old" is extremely questionable at best.
The Romulans are the Johnny-come-latelies of STO. Their storyline still has that "new storyline smell." Your definition of "old" is extremely questionable at best.
I believe he was referring to the Federation Factions stories taking place within the Romulan and Cardassian Sectors. Most of those stories are unchanged since they were released 4 years ago - the exception being the, once, FE Missions.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
I believe he was referring to the Federation Factions stories taking place within the Romulan and Cardassian Sectors. Most of those stories are unchanged since they were released 4 years ago - the exception being the, once, FE Missions.
Maybe. -shrug-
"Romulus...story line" covers a lot of ground, and there was no clarification whatsoever in his post. For all either of us know, I could be right, you could be right, or he could have been talking about something neither of us have touched on.
A very little "being specific" goes a long way. Or not, as in this case.
After season 9 is out and bugs are fixed I believe they must get there attention to the Romulus & Cardessian Story lines They are Old and Ugly Desperately need a boost a upgrade !!! :P
What you think ?
When you say bugs are fixed, my troll alarm went off big time.
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After season 9 is out and bugs are fixed I believe they must get there attention to the Romulus & Cardessian Story lines They are Old and Ugly Desperately need a boost a upgrade !!! :P
What you think ?
LOL as if the bugs will get fixed. Everytime this game has an update/bugfix patch for the last 2 years, it wrecks more then it fixes.
I believe they must get there attention to the Romulus & Cardessian Story lines They are Old and Ugly Desperately need a boost a upgrade !!! :P
What you think ?
If it means adding any real content with stories and dialogue that are decent and not the result of hurried, sophomoric, predictable hack writing, I'm all for it.
But instead, because this is Cryptic, we'll get one mission that lasts 10 minutes and then another reputation to grind for garbage.
The Romulans are the Johnny-come-latelies of STO. Their storyline still has that "new storyline smell." Your definition of "old" is extremely questionable at best.
The Romulus storyline on the Federation side with a fed char !!!
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
"Coffee: the finest organic suspension ever devised. It's got me through the worst of the last three years. I beat the Borg with it."
OMG, I can't breathe. I'm laughing so hard I may pee.
Bugs are fixed? You're joking, right? FFS, this is Cryptic we're talking about here. Fixing bugs. God, that's funny.
Man, I haven't laughed that hard in years.
If it means adding any real content with stories and dialogue that are decent and not the result of hurried, sophomoric, predictable hack writing, I'm all for it.
But instead, because this is Cryptic, we'll get one mission that lasts 10 minutes and then another reputation to grind for garbage.
Hate to say it, but you know it's true.
Let's just see, I know Cryptic did fail us once or twice but they also did good things, it's like a relationship you have bad times and good times, and I believe in the good times as much as I can. And they already proven to me at least they earn my trust. And maybe they need positive people like me to strafe forward to hold on !!!
Darn almost sounded political....
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
"Coffee: the finest organic suspension ever devised. It's got me through the worst of the last three years. I beat the Borg with it."
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I think the story line are fine.
They should do NEW missions.
The old missions might not look as polished, but they are perfectly fine and in some ways better then the new and reworked ones.
Warning, spoilers to follow:
There is that mission where one supposedly benevolent person is revealed to be Dukat's daughter and working with the Pagh wraith. The whole story falls flat because the character is introduced in that mission only. If that was suppsoed to surprise someone or affect someone emotionally, she should have been appearing in earlier episodes and had done something to earn your trust. Only then can her betrayal be felt.
Of course, the missions look often badly compared to newer missions, too. But the worst offender may be the Deep Space Nine interior... If that can get a ESD-level revamp in Season 10, I'd be really happy.
With the Undine active on Bajor one may wonder what they are doing in the Dominion - so setting Season 10 on DS9 and the Gamma Quadrant could work great. (And think about all the fun you could have with two shapeshifting aliens mucking things up! The chance for intrigue might be great.)
Nonetheless there are certain loose ends that needs to find an end within their story, instead of open up new senseless Pseudo-Story parts every few weeks.
Futhermore they should develop the rest of New Romulus and expedite the Romulan Story Chain, instead of that shameful voth story.
pah'wraiths were sealed forever in the firecaves when the kosst amojan book was destroyed with no way to bring them back, so this storyline should not of happened at all on sto. not sure who wrote it and brought it to sto, but if there is ever to be a cardassian storyline upgrade, this whole current mission should be eliminated.
as for the romulans though, well some of it is integral to the iconian plot to the romulan republic seen from the federation side, however some of these missions are just... horrible.
i could see some improvement there, but not much beyond that.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
Imagine having the Dominion pulling our arses out of the fire with the Undine :cool:.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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Gecko claims that everything is possible in Star Trek....:rolleyes:
So there isn't anything that wouldn't be too dumb for them to implement it in Star Grind Online...
I think they'll continue fixing missions along the way.
The thing they need to fix the most right now will be how the other reputations behave in so far as how their ground options generate marks for players and the worlds involved and how they look and act missing worlds and many of them like Andoria are terrible.
I also think they'll need to be giving serious thought into skills post Season 9 because there are still alot that haven't been properly fixed in space.
I personally hope that they use their new kit system to add new skill modules to the game for ground options and add tricorders as a ground slot.
Forever is a long time. Particular for a race that doesn't have a concept of time. Doesn't really matter, though - if you want a treachery to be meaningful, you better find a way to make it have notable impact.
The Romulan mission with the Undine Admiral making you kill innocent Romulans does it a bit better, in that you realize what horrible things you did for her. But of course, it fails because you are not allowed to question your orders and they become questionable very, very early.
maybe that's another part where some treachery could be a string of episodes. Imagine first executing missions for that Undine that seem to make sense, and then suddenly realize that you worked for a greater plan against the Federation and Romulan interests.
Cryptic had a chance to do a quality pass to the Cardassian arc with Legacy of Romulus, but only chose to do minor touch-ups and add faction specific dialogue for all 3 factions. Probably just didn't have the time.
Because like it or not there lot of bugs in those missions that can be easaly be solved.
Also the Cardessian missions are really need a fix as you players pointed out. the weekly episodes need a fix, there horrible to play with a lot of bugs in it.
This must be done to attract new gamers into Star Trek Online otherwise it would make no sense, first they have a smooth ride true missions then they gut a hell true Romulus story arc and after that the cardessian story arc.
They can do much much better and if you start a new character I believe it is important to have that story arc to VA shorter and much smoother....
Greets
"Coffee: the finest organic suspension ever devised. It's got me through the worst of the last three years. I beat the Borg with it."
maybe they got a copy of the book from the mirror universe
The Romulans are the Johnny-come-latelies of STO. Their storyline still has that "new storyline smell." Your definition of "old" is extremely questionable at best.
Maybe. -shrug-
"Romulus...story line" covers a lot of ground, and there was no clarification whatsoever in his post. For all either of us know, I could be right, you could be right, or he could have been talking about something neither of us have touched on.
A very little "being specific" goes a long way. Or not, as in this case.
When you say bugs are fixed, my troll alarm went off big time.
"There is no problem in the universe that can't be solved with a bribe, a paid assassin, or an overpowered fighter." - Chubain from Jumpgate Evolution
LOL as if the bugs will get fixed. Everytime this game has an update/bugfix patch for the last 2 years, it wrecks more then it fixes.
I thought WoW's forums had angry elitist snobs, but I never could have imagined the level STO forums has.
BAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
OMG, I can't breathe. I'm laughing so hard I may pee.
Bugs are fixed? You're joking, right? FFS, this is Cryptic we're talking about here. Fixing bugs. God, that's funny.
Man, I haven't laughed that hard in years.
If it means adding any real content with stories and dialogue that are decent and not the result of hurried, sophomoric, predictable hack writing, I'm all for it.
But instead, because this is Cryptic, we'll get one mission that lasts 10 minutes and then another reputation to grind for garbage.
Hate to say it, but you know it's true.
The Romulus storyline on the Federation side with a fed char !!!
"Coffee: the finest organic suspension ever devised. It's got me through the worst of the last three years. I beat the Borg with it."
Let's just see, I know Cryptic did fail us once or twice but they also did good things, it's like a relationship you have bad times and good times, and I believe in the good times as much as I can. And they already proven to me at least they earn my trust. And maybe they need positive people like me to strafe forward to hold on !!!
Darn almost sounded political....
"Coffee: the finest organic suspension ever devised. It's got me through the worst of the last three years. I beat the Borg with it."