A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
The scary/sad thing, is that people're still pulling the prank at colleges and getting signatures...
I truly believe in equality for everyone -- TRIBBLE, straight, black, white, male, female, to me, everyone deserves the dignity of being treated as equal. But. I can't see it happening socially within my lifetime, as there're people who aren't ready to be treated equally but (pointing no fingers) still feel the need for preferential treatment, and all the time that's allowed and enabled, there will never be true equality...
I too welcome our new sheep overlords, and would like to point out that I would be much better at pointing out wool-wearing traitors than working in the grass mines!
Lol - yes, let us continue the work of the 1930s and '40s by arbitrarily deciding who qualifies as a true, human entity. ***Thinking of partial birth abortion, and of my cousin who was bullied into getting an abortion after 5 months.
Not to mention free health and dental for all.
Neither of which are free. *** Mmm...thinking about my discontinued insurance that I could afford. Now I'm on a more expensive plan and paying for pediatric dental for kids I don't have. Lovely. Big government at work.
"If you like your health care plan, you'll be able to keep your health care plan - period."
I too welcome our new sheep overlords, and would like to point out that I would be much better at pointing out wool-wearing traitors than working in the grass mines!
Um...
That's Sovereign Ba'al, the ten-thousand-year-old Goa'uld System Lord and ruler of all worlds.
(OOC)
You know, the Stargate villain? Played by Cliff Simon?
Lol - yes, let us continue the work of the 1930s and '40s by arbitrarily deciding who qualifies as a true, human entity. ***Thinking of partial birth abortion, and of my cousin who was bullied into getting an abortion after 5 months.
Wow. Nice concealed Godwin.
You're not convincing me to change my belief that abortion should be safe, legal, and rare. It's a suboptimal option, but when a woman considers it, all of the other options are worse.
Neither of which are free. *** Mmm...thinking about my discontinued insurance that I could afford. Now I'm on a more expensive plan and paying for pediatric dental for kids I don't have. Lovely. Big government at work.
"If you like your health care plan, you'll be able to keep your health care plan - period."
*le sigh*
Well, Sovereign Ba'al offers free health and dental. Plus resurrection devices.
You're not convincing me to change my belief that abortion should be safe, legal, and rare. It's a suboptimal option, but when a woman considers it, all of the other options are worse.
Godwin? My opinion of it isn't religious-based, and by all means, continue to keep your opinion. I'm just stating things that are so, not the least of which are 1. they aren't so rare, 2. individuals I've known who use abortion for birth control, and 3. women I know who have had the procedure done and feel personally disgusted with themselves. There's so much more to it than "walk in - get the zygote/embryo/fetus/baby plucked out - walk home totally fine."
You're not convincing me to change my belief that abortion should be safe, legal, and rare. It's a suboptimal option, but when a woman considers it, all of the other options are worse.
I'd say the rule "no politics or religion" is there for a good reason... debates like that never end good...
Godwin? My opinion of it isn't religious-based, and by all means, continue to keep your opinion. I'm just stating things that are so, not the least of which are 1. they aren't so rare, 2. individuals I've known who use abortion for birth control, and 3. women I know who have had the procedure done and feel personally disgusted with themselves. There's so much more to it than "walk in - get the zygote/embryo/fetus/baby plucked out - walk home totally fine."
:rolleyes:
Godwin=Godwin's law. AKA invoking Hitler, even tangentially, and comparing your opponent to that genocidal maniac.
Yeah, maybe if women had easier access to birth control, they wouldn't need to abort so often. Maybe if we had real, free health care for all (not that wussy half-measure that is Obamacare), and a better adoption system, then women wouldn't need to abort so often.
Those stories Fox News references of women who use abortion casually? They are very far from the norm, statistically speaking.
Third: I recognize your point here, but that does not give ANYONE the right to decide for a woman whether or not she continues to allow what is effectively a parasitic life-form to put massive physical, mental, and hormonal strain on her body. So someone you know had an abortion and felt miserable afterwards. So what? That's her personal, emotional business, and hers alone; she has no business preventing other women from having the right to the same decision, and nobody has any right to condemn her for her choice.
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
It wasn't even a half-measure. It was a Trojan Horse filled with full-fledged Corporatism and monopolies, effectively the previous medical system placed on steroids and forced participation. Your government at work, people.
Godwin=Godwin's law. AKA invoking Hitler, even tangentially, and comparing your opponent to that genocidal maniac.
I alluded to policy, not the individual. And it is the same - one group of human entities have decided that a specific group of other human entities are NOT human. If that isn't so, if there is no aspect of humanity involved, then there would be no controversy. Bottom line is the intent is to prevent the existence of another human being.
Yeah, maybe if women had easier access to birth control,
LMFAO - It's real easy to get birth control! My (now) exGF had a massive drawer full of condoms, gel, and other stuff she got when she went to planned parenthood (name irony) for her abortion.
Maybe if we had real, free health care for all
It's not free. It will cost. It is costing. That's is not ideology, it's economics.
Those stories Fox News references of women who use abortion casually? They are very far from the norm, statistically speaking.
Not going by Fox, I'm relaying personal experience from women I know or have known. That carries far more weight in shaping my opinion. Have you ever talked to women who have worked in the abortion field and have left? What about women who have had the procedure and regretted it?
Third: I recognize your point here, but that does not give ANYONE the right to decide for a woman whether or not she continues to allow what is effectively a parasitic life-form
WOW, go back to biology class. It's a human entity. It's a natural course of life for our species.
to put massive physical, mental, and hormonal strain on her body.
Having and abortion does the same thing! The body is in a state of preparing to carry another human. Removing that entity does its own damage. Why so difficult to acknowledge that?
So someone you know had an abortion and felt miserable afterwards. So what? That's her personal, emotional business, and hers alone
Ummm....like your opinion on things, they chose to share it. But it would appear you would rather these women shut up? So your feminism is one-sided - support for females who share your opinion only. Irony.
; she has no business preventing other women from having the right to the same decision, and nobody has any right to condemn her for her choice
Yet you want these women to keep it to themselves.
Is it human or isn't it? If it's not human in nature, then there is NO controversy.
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
It's not free. It will cost. It is costing. That's is not ideology, it's economics.
Indeed. There's no such thing as free anything. Even though you might not be paying for something yourself, someone else most certainly is. As in healthcare, the doctors and nurses are not working for free, someone is writing them paychecks because they have families to feed and clothe. And all that money comes from somewhere....
I alluded to policy, not the individual. And it is the same - one group of human entities have decided that a specific group of other human entities are NOT human. If that isn't so, if there is no aspect of humanity involved, then there would be no controversy. Bottom line is the intent is to prevent the existence of another human being.
1. Still a Godwin.
2. And that's a good thing. Keep the population down BEFORE you have to resort to something disgusting like mass culling via lottery. Better to keep the birth rate low.
LMFAO - It's real easy to get birth control! My (now) exGF had a massive drawer full of condoms, gel, and other stuff she got when she went to planned parenthood (name irony) for her abortion.
Not going by Fox, I'm relaying personal experience from women I know or have known. That carries far more weight in shaping my opinion. Have you ever talked to women who have worked in the abortion field and have left? What about women who have had the procedure and regretted it?
Yes, I have in both cases. None of them would even dream of denying other women the opportunity to make their own choice.
WOW, go back to biology class. It's a human entity. It's a natural course of life for our species.
It's not capable of surviving outside the host for more than a few hours (at BEST), it's entirely dependent on the host for nutrition and protection, it has an adverse effect on the physical state of the host, and it affects the host's mind and hormones. It is, technically speaking, a parasitic life form.
Having and abortion does the same thing! The body is in a state of preparing to carry another human. Removing that entity does its own damage. Why so difficult to acknowledge that?
Not as much as keeping the damn thing in there. Have you ever studied human physiology?
Ummm....like your opinion on things, they chose to share it. But it would appear you would rather these women shut up? So your feminism is one-sided - support for females who share your opinion only. Irony.
No. I support the right of every woman to choose for herself whether or not to terminate her pregnancy.
I do NOT support any other sophont telling a woman whether or not she can terminate her pregnancy.
Is it human or isn't it? If it's not human in nature, then there is NO controversy.
Is a fetus human?
Well, it has human DNA...but then again, so does a Parasitic twin.
It's debatable. I am inclined to believe that a fetus is nonsentient, and therefore has no more rights than a tapeworm. Its existence is entirely dependent upon the willingness of its host (i.e. mother) to continue the pregnancy.
This was about Kate Mulgrew and the absurdity of geocentrism but I should have figured it could turn into a politics debate lol.
Of course healthcare isn't free but its obvious the US healthcare system is broken, Obamacare didn't fix it, and repealing it without another plan won't fix it either.
I support a universal healthcare system instead, the US has the money, its just being wasted on other stuff now. military spending is way to high, corporations and rich don't pay enough taxes and dodge what they are supposed to pay. We can fund it, we just need to get the corrupt politicians out of the way.
They are superfluous, polluting noisemakers, and a gigantic waste of money, space, and time.
If you want/need to fly somewhere? Fly commercial, like everyone else.
Hm, so we should ban private planes as well? (Say goodbye to the local crop dusting business.) And what about other "superfluous, polluting noisemakers" that are giant "wastes of money, space, and time?" Private yachts? Boats? Semi trucks? Pickup trucks? Vans? Jeeps? Cars?
How about we ban private homes and shove everyone into communal tenements?
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
Hm, so we should ban private planes as well? (Say goodbye to the local crop dusting business.) And what about other "superfluous, polluting noisemakers" that are giant "wastes of money, space, and time?" Private yachts? Boats? Semi trucks? Pickup trucks? Vans? Jeeps? Cars?
How about we ban private homes and shove everyone into communal tenements?
I didn't actually suggest actively banning private planes, but since you mentioned it...
All private jet aircraft should be banned. If a vehicle is DIRECTLY work-related, then it is probably fine. Donald Trump's private 737 is NOT fine.
As long as the tenements fit basic standards of living? Sure. Not a bad idea. Good communal daycare should be useful as well.
Keeping standards up is important. Quality is very important; you can't get it with unregulated private ownership, but enough layers of regulation and corruption-busting should work to ensure that everyone gets a quality lifestyle.
I didn't actually suggest actively banning private planes, but since you mentioned it...
All private jet aircraft should be banned. If a vehicle is DIRECTLY work-related, then it is probably fine. Donald Trump's private 737 is NOT fine.
As long as the tenements fit basic standards of living? Sure. Not a bad idea. Good communal daycare should be useful as well.
Keeping standards up is important. Quality is very important; you can't get it with unregulated private ownership, but enough layers of regulation and corruption-busting should work to ensure that everyone gets a quality lifestyle.
I don't understand the difference on why one private vehicle is bad but other private vehicles are okay. A vehicle is a vehicle.
I don't understand the difference on why one private vehicle is bad but other private vehicles are okay. A vehicle is a vehicle.
Let me put it this way.
Is a tractor-trailer truck, used to haul goods cross-country, the same as Donald Trump's personal 737?
Do you honestly consider a crop-duster to be equal in function and contribution to society to Donald Trump's 737?
Do you believe that every citizen has the inalienable right to private transportation, no matter how expensive, disruptive, or wasteful, even if safe, affordable public transportation is an available alternative?
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#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Well, I will do something productive and google around.. Some cities I am interested in. Like Roanoke
The scary/sad thing, is that people're still pulling the prank at colleges and getting signatures...
I truly believe in equality for everyone -- TRIBBLE, straight, black, white, male, female, to me, everyone deserves the dignity of being treated as equal. But. I can't see it happening socially within my lifetime, as there're people who aren't ready to be treated equally but (pointing no fingers) still feel the need for preferential treatment, and all the time that's allowed and enabled, there will never be true equality...
Neither of which are free. *** Mmm...thinking about my discontinued insurance that I could afford. Now I'm on a more expensive plan and paying for pediatric dental for kids I don't have. Lovely. Big government at work.
"If you like your health care plan, you'll be able to keep your health care plan - period."
Um...
That's Sovereign Ba'al, the ten-thousand-year-old Goa'uld System Lord and ruler of all worlds.
(OOC)
You know, the Stargate villain? Played by Cliff Simon?
(/OOC)
Hail Ba'al!
You missed out the "L" in "Ba'al", so it read as "Ba'a".
Trials of Blood and Fire
Moving On Parts 1-3 - Part 4
In Cold Blood
Really? TRIBBLE. Lemme fix that.
You're not convincing me to change my belief that abortion should be safe, legal, and rare. It's a suboptimal option, but when a woman considers it, all of the other options are worse. *le sigh*
Well, Sovereign Ba'al offers free health and dental. Plus resurrection devices.
Hail Ba'al!
:rolleyes:
I'd say the rule "no politics or religion" is there for a good reason... debates like that never end good...
Godwin=Godwin's law. AKA invoking Hitler, even tangentially, and comparing your opponent to that genocidal maniac.
Yeah, maybe if women had easier access to birth control, they wouldn't need to abort so often. Maybe if we had real, free health care for all (not that wussy half-measure that is Obamacare), and a better adoption system, then women wouldn't need to abort so often.
Those stories Fox News references of women who use abortion casually? They are very far from the norm, statistically speaking.
Third: I recognize your point here, but that does not give ANYONE the right to decide for a woman whether or not she continues to allow what is effectively a parasitic life-form to put massive physical, mental, and hormonal strain on her body. So someone you know had an abortion and felt miserable afterwards. So what? That's her personal, emotional business, and hers alone; she has no business preventing other women from having the right to the same decision, and nobody has any right to condemn her for her choice.
Agreed.
And now I must go carry amphibians across roads, for reasons that seemed a whole lot better 3 weeks ago.
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
It wasn't even a half-measure. It was a Trojan Horse filled with full-fledged Corporatism and monopolies, effectively the previous medical system placed on steroids and forced participation. Your government at work, people.
Oh, and the pirating "movie maker" is a putz.
LMFAO - It's real easy to get birth control! My (now) exGF had a massive drawer full of condoms, gel, and other stuff she got when she went to planned parenthood (name irony) for her abortion.
It's not free. It will cost. It is costing. That's is not ideology, it's economics.
Not going by Fox, I'm relaying personal experience from women I know or have known. That carries far more weight in shaping my opinion. Have you ever talked to women who have worked in the abortion field and have left? What about women who have had the procedure and regretted it?
WOW, go back to biology class. It's a human entity. It's a natural course of life for our species.
Having and abortion does the same thing! The body is in a state of preparing to carry another human. Removing that entity does its own damage. Why so difficult to acknowledge that?
Ummm....like your opinion on things, they chose to share it. But it would appear you would rather these women shut up? So your feminism is one-sided - support for females who share your opinion only. Irony.
Yet you want these women to keep it to themselves.
Is it human or isn't it? If it's not human in nature, then there is NO controversy.
For god's sake don't ask him why he does that.
I once made that mistake. The answer was part disgusting, but also a big turn-on for me.
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
I warned ya
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1068951
Indeed. There's no such thing as free anything. Even though you might not be paying for something yourself, someone else most certainly is. As in healthcare, the doctors and nurses are not working for free, someone is writing them paychecks because they have families to feed and clothe. And all that money comes from somewhere....
2. And that's a good thing. Keep the population down BEFORE you have to resort to something disgusting like mass culling via lottery. Better to keep the birth rate low. Not if you're poor it's not. This is why we tax people like Donald Trump for 2/3 of every cent their money earns for them.
Yes, I'm a socialist. No, that's not a bad thing. Nobody needs a private jet. Nobody should HAVE a private jet. Yes, I have in both cases. None of them would even dream of denying other women the opportunity to make their own choice. It's not capable of surviving outside the host for more than a few hours (at BEST), it's entirely dependent on the host for nutrition and protection, it has an adverse effect on the physical state of the host, and it affects the host's mind and hormones. It is, technically speaking, a parasitic life form. Not as much as keeping the damn thing in there. Have you ever studied human physiology? No. I support the right of every woman to choose for herself whether or not to terminate her pregnancy.
I do NOT support any other sophont telling a woman whether or not she can terminate her pregnancy. Exactly. It's personal. Don't shove your beliefs on this issue on someone else. Is a fetus human?
Well, it has human DNA...but then again, so does a Parasitic twin.
It's debatable. I am inclined to believe that a fetus is nonsentient, and therefore has no more rights than a tapeworm. Its existence is entirely dependent upon the willingness of its host (i.e. mother) to continue the pregnancy.
Of course healthcare isn't free but its obvious the US healthcare system is broken, Obamacare didn't fix it, and repealing it without another plan won't fix it either.
I support a universal healthcare system instead, the US has the money, its just being wasted on other stuff now. military spending is way to high, corporations and rich don't pay enough taxes and dodge what they are supposed to pay. We can fund it, we just need to get the corrupt politicians out of the way.
Why? What's wrong with private jets?
They are superfluous, polluting noisemakers, and a gigantic waste of money, space, and time.
If you want/need to fly somewhere? Fly commercial, like everyone else.
Hm, so we should ban private planes as well? (Say goodbye to the local crop dusting business.) And what about other "superfluous, polluting noisemakers" that are giant "wastes of money, space, and time?" Private yachts? Boats? Semi trucks? Pickup trucks? Vans? Jeeps? Cars?
How about we ban private homes and shove everyone into communal tenements?
preferably with a .50 caliber rifle, but if anyone thinks it can actually be done non-violently, i'm all for that, too
just as long as we get rid of them
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
I didn't actually suggest actively banning private planes, but since you mentioned it...
All private jet aircraft should be banned. If a vehicle is DIRECTLY work-related, then it is probably fine. Donald Trump's private 737 is NOT fine.
As long as the tenements fit basic standards of living? Sure. Not a bad idea. Good communal daycare should be useful as well.
Keeping standards up is important. Quality is very important; you can't get it with unregulated private ownership, but enough layers of regulation and corruption-busting should work to ensure that everyone gets a quality lifestyle.
I don't understand the difference on why one private vehicle is bad but other private vehicles are okay. A vehicle is a vehicle.
Worffan, I think your my favorite person on the Forum at this moment. Now delete that post before Scout gets here!
Let me put it this way.
Is a tractor-trailer truck, used to haul goods cross-country, the same as Donald Trump's personal 737?
Do you honestly consider a crop-duster to be equal in function and contribution to society to Donald Trump's 737?
Do you believe that every citizen has the inalienable right to private transportation, no matter how expensive, disruptive, or wasteful, even if safe, affordable public transportation is an available alternative?