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So I just found out that my job uses IQ tests to screen for management positions.
Through nefarious means I found the test they use.
http://giqtest.com/
From what I understand the scale stops at around 160 is is mostly a sampling of a "real" IQ test.
I tossed 10 bucks at it and took it, scored a 127. Aparently im quite a bit smarter than my boss (100).
I wonder if I should tell him.......
Through nefarious means I found the test they use.
http://giqtest.com/
From what I understand the scale stops at around 160 is is mostly a sampling of a "real" IQ test.
I tossed 10 bucks at it and took it, scored a 127. Aparently im quite a bit smarter than my boss (100).
I wonder if I should tell him.......
As a time traveller, Am I supposed to pack underwear or underwhen?
Not everything you see on the internet is true - Abraham Lincoln
Occidere populo et effercio confractus
Not everything you see on the internet is true - Abraham Lincoln
Occidere populo et effercio confractus
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$40 bucks and if you are above a certain score, you get membership into the group as an added perk.
That score should net you membership if I recall correctly.
http://www.us.mensa.org/join/testing/
Heh...I once went for Mensa... but what they don't tell you that is one test...
the higher/more accurate you want your IQ to be (I'd wager the first test has a set 'if this is right, your IQ is x), the more tests you have to take, each costing more money
Thus I was smart enough to not go further
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Sounds like it was a scam spoof of them. Mensa requires one test, and in some instances will wave the $40 fee for extenuating circumstances (tough to get done though).
I've had nothing but great experiences with them, I've not tested personally, but I have a very good friend who liked to include me on the archaeological digs they've gotten into in the area. I LOVE working with my bare hands and seeing outlines of the past in the dirt.
But...yeah, should be one testing period of two tests at $40 total. Pass either with a score better than 98% of the rest of the country and you're in. This is from about fifteen years ago mind you and a spotty memory.
Yeah I just did it to see what I would score on the same test. Its a better comparison.
Also mensa in america is butts. Thats my official feeling on it, butts.
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Nah UK, but I'd assume both use the same materials, ect - and I don't think it was a scam as the 'tester' test (a pre test, if you will) was printed in a national UK paper with 155m+ circulation
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Yeah it is prety lousy.
But aparently my company thinkg it has some kind of bearing on management level employees.
Really they should be hiring monkeys. they are much better at making noise and flinging TRIBBLE, and probably more productive.
Not everything you see on the internet is true - Abraham Lincoln
Occidere populo et effercio confractus
It is odd but probably acceptable for a part of some job apps. Speaking english is kinda important in most jobs in english speaking countries, so that is useful. And memory is important as well. It is a poor IQ test but it may, or may not, be a decent candidate filter test. Sometimes places don;t even score the test, they score the test taker --- by seeing how much the candidate will put up with before growing annoyed, or how they handle frustration or go about solving a problem.
I don't think any company would put much stock in a # from an online test. Picking on the vocabulary section again; a second browser with google will answer 100% of that for you.
-- Genius? Not I. 140-160 here depending on which of a dozen tests you think is most accurate, or whether I ate my wheaties that morning, or whatever random factors influence the results.
Wow, just wow. You've spoken some true words here..
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I call it, the Stoutes paradox.
I've no doubt that monkeys and I would get along phenomenally. We could take turns flinging poo at insulting customers and the pimps across the street.
I can't bond with my current employees that way. A shame really.
IQ tests are flawed in that these questions you would have no use of in real life, nor would you even see them in an everyday environment and just because you can score more points then your boss in questions that write as if an alien come up with it doesnt mean you are smarter then anyone else, your boss may know things you do not so clearly since that is the case then you are not that smart. neither is anyone and if you argue the point, tell people to stop using violence as a means to dominate.
its a load of TRIBBLE.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
Lots of 'em, I'm sure. I've tested significantly higher than the Mensa minimum. I don't say that very often, and although I've taken a lot of Mensa-designed tests for fun, I don't put too much stock in it. (Despite my ex-girlfriend's dad pushing to get me to officially join Mensa.) I've met average Joes, and even a few less than average, who are amazing people. I'm humbled and privileged to know them. I've also seen several with 140+ IQs who were not up to snuff in other areas of their lives, as if in offset, a balance for genius. I've never researched it further, but I'd heard rumors that Einstein sometimes required assistance crossing streets because his mind was so engrossed in a problem, that he'd fail to watch for traffic. I, myself, have one common field of study for which I have no skill (and which will remain unnamed.
Bottom line: High IQ is nice, but IMHO, has little to no place in a job screening. I'll take a man with good character first. You can borrow brains, but you cannot borrow character.
By the way, how is that IQ screening not a lawsuit waiting to happen? It is using a physical/mental limitation of a person to make a decision, based on a test that likely has nothing to do with the job. When I used to be an HR recruiter, we were instructed that we could not say "I see you are a paraplegic. We can't use you on the assembly line", or "You are a short woman. We need big husky men for this construction project." There be dragons. What we were instructed to say is "This position has these physical requirements. Do you believe you can fully fulfill those, and if not fully, what aid would you require?" If the candidate says yes, and cannot fulfill them, the onus is on him, not the HR staff.
ooh some ones touchy.
Im sure my boss at least thinks he knows things I don't. And knowlage isn't the end all be all. Anyone has the opportunity to learn anything.
Fun fact, In the sitiuation I described the test is in fact quite important, as the company uses the score to determine eligability for supervisory positions. So even though the general concensus is that the test is dumb, it is not in fact the view of the people who are administering it. And since the people administering it are the same ones handing out the jobs, I would imagine what they think is more important than what you or I think.
On a side note. through more looking in placed i shouldn't I have found the scale the company uses to determione candidates.
90 or lower - employee
90 -100 Management/supervisor
100-120 Site manager/supervisor
120+ - Regional manager/supervisor
I guess depending on what you apply for scoring lower than their threashhold is enough to deny you the job. I have no idea if it has happened but amusing all the same.
I also found out I make more than my boss so, bonus.
Not everything you see on the internet is true - Abraham Lincoln
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Probably because I'm sure no one who was denied was told why. If any one was denied to begin with.
Really though, I just found it amusing that they put stock in such things. Tho whole place makes more sense now.
Not everything you see on the internet is true - Abraham Lincoln
Occidere populo et effercio confractus
reverting to competitive base needs to win an arguement on saracasm is exactly the point i made.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
Right and wrong.
IQ tests are not a test of ones ability to a job, correct.
The questions are not useful in real life, correct.
Your boss has job specific experience and knowledge, correct.
That is not the purpose of these tests. Good questions have no bearing on your training, language spoken, or assumptions of common knowledge, which is why they end up mostly being picture puzzles.
These tests, with proper questions, test the ability of the person to solve difficult problems, to correlate known information and make sense of data to solve for unknown but similar situations. This is a very useful quality to have, on the job or everyday life.
I personally think using it for job screening is a bad thing. The tests are mostly flawed and, as you said, do not reflect ability at a job so much as potential to gain that ability with training. Most places do not want a genius who knows nothing about the job, and would rather have a reasonably smart person who knows the field related to the job at hand. Training is expensive, it costs paying the person while you spend money on the person....
And yet no comment on the rest of the post. Taking something out of context so you can attack it is the sign of a weak mind.
Not everything you see on the internet is true - Abraham Lincoln
Occidere populo et effercio confractus