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The Blunt Reality of Pay-to-Win

geoff484geoff484 Member Posts: 209 Arc User
I'm not here to tell you that this game isn't Pay-to-Win, I'm not even upset or annoyed at all the anti Pay-to-Win talk. What I'm here to tell you is that this game is very pay-to-win, and it makes total sense.

The truth is that a lot of people whining (and no, I'm not whining about other people whining, I'm just simply making an attempt to hit people with the reality stick, I can ignore whiners, they don't bother me) don't seem to understand that us Pay-to-Win players use real world cash to pay for the things we have. We use hard earned cash that we work for, so when we say "You can grind for dilithium and trade it for z-points" the appropriate answer isn't something along the lines of "It's not fair that we have to work for those same items!"

You don't work for those items, playing a video game for tons of hours isn't work unless you're a game tester and even if you do play this game to test for bugs and what-not, it's still not work because you're not pinned with that responsibility by a supervisor - You're simply testing a game because you feel like it, there's no pressure.

Again, I'm not upset and I'm not looking to upset or argue with anyone, you can take this however you want. I'm simply trying to offer some people some perspective of why paying SHOULD be advantageous.

I get my rear end handed to me by Jemmy ships in PvP all the time, it does get frustrated, but I'm sure that person used real world money that they truly worked for to get that ship - I didn't nor do I choose to because I'm rather comfortable in my Avenger.

Bottom line: You can play this game 100% for free, we didn't have things like this about ten years ago - Maybe you should be grateful enough for something like that.

If I paid for something that was only cosmetic and I found no difference in the performance of said items, ship, etc. than the stuff I could simply get for free I wouldn't pay for it. And no offense, and I'm sure this will upset a lot of people and make me sound very arrogant - Players like me are more important than players like you.

I can't stress enough that I'm not upset, I just thought maybe this would make some people feel a little more comfortable with how this game is set up as far as the cash shop goes.
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  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Didn you post this already?

    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1068291

    Double posting is against TOS you know? Maybe want to ask a mod to delete it.
    Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
    Let me put the rumors to rest: it's definitely still the C-Store (Cryptic Store) It just takes ZEN.
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  • darthstormstrikedarthstormstrike Member Posts: 771 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    You didn't know you posted already? That angry?
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  • rickdankorickdanko Member Posts: 470 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Double posting is OP. Plz nerf
    They're not really gone, as long as we remember them
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  • aloishammeraloishammer Member Posts: 3,294 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    geoff484 wrote: »
    I'm not here to tell you that this game isn't Pay-to-Win, I'm not even upset or annoyed at all the anti Pay-to-Win talk. What I'm here to tell you is that this game is very pay-to-win, and it makes total sense.

    Don't you mean "What [you're] here to tell [us] again just like in this other, identical thread?" :rolleyes:
  • divvydavedivvydave Member Posts: 184 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    >snip< Players like me are more important than players like you. >snip<

    I wasn't going to reply because i'm not sure if you're trolling.

    Um no your not, ever traded zen for dil on the exchange? How/Why do you think that dil
    was put on the exchange? Because a F2P player earned, refined then put up for sale that dil, which P2P players then buy for fleet weapons etc.

    At the very least F2P players balance the economy, and allow players like yourself to have a shortcut to said fleet shineys ;)

    Imo you just sound like an angry arrogant person.
  • aloishammeraloishammer Member Posts: 3,294 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    geoff484 wrote: »
    and no, I'm not whining about other people whining,...

    Ooh, what a load of hooey, boys and girls!
  • robbie222222robbie222222 Member Posts: 120 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    The idea that a poor players can pay to win is not logical. What does money spent have to do with winning in a game of skill? Ask the thread poster who spent 600 dollars on lockboxes to prove he was a loser. Would you spending 600 dollars on lockboxes to make you a winner? I will fake it and declare you a winner for less than 600 dollars per mission. Would that make you feel important?
  • gurugeorgegurugeorge Member Posts: 421 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    What is this, I don't even ...
  • darthstormstrikedarthstormstrike Member Posts: 771 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    The other thread he made was more entertaining. It had popcorn.
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    "There is no problem in the universe that can't be solved with a bribe, a paid assassin, or an overpowered fighter." - Chubain from Jumpgate Evolution
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