These grinds are too much. It has been grind after grind after grind. I've done Sphere of Influence at least once on all of my 32 characters to get the Obelisk Carrier, Fastest Game on Ice on 10 of my characters every day of the winter event, and in the exhausting anniversary event, nabbed the Science Destroyers on every one of my 32 characters.
After the mirror event(which I'm running on my 15 maxed-level characters btw), I'm done grinding till the summer event. If season 9's featured episode requires a grind, I might get it on one character. MIGHT.
wow, looks like sto is made for you.... grind, grind, grind...burn-out... grind, grind , grind...
I stoped with the grind on my 14 characters, science carrier, only got it on 1 science.
Winter-event only did it on 1 that used the old breen-ship and even the mirror grind i only do on 7 characters. (50.000 dil and a crappy doff)
I don't like grinding. Especially on 32 characters simultaneously. Nah, the reason I even wanted to do the anni event on every character is because I couldn't choose chich characters to get the ships on. So I just done 'em all.
I liked Sphere of Influence though. One run and done, unless you wanna get the bonuses. The anni event though? NONONONO! =p
i feel you, after sphere i stopped grinding with all toons and just do the grind with the 2 mains and that's about it. and also just if i really want the stuff.
but the next breen ship will most probably not get grinded and i will watch the people running and triying to beat the snowman. and play the normal story missions for once in a while to get the feeling again that i am playing the game not the game is playing me
yeah i understand how you feel, i'm in pre-burn-out mode right now with the mirror event, i'm not even doffing now...i just wanna get the event done and then log off until the summer event xD
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All the grind in this game is optional. And that is the truth.
Due to my college, I have been in a very hard spot to grind for almost a year. I have not a single character with full rep (although my main has Omega and Romulan, and is working on Nukara and Dyson). I might do the rep some day in the future for all my chars. But that is completely optional.
Take my science character. During the Summer giveaway, I got the Nebula for that one. I received an Aegis set (can't remember how tbh), got a Bioneural warhead from the exchange, got 4 fleet antiproton beam arrays and the omni-directional one from SoI. That Nebula is a very powerful ship. Skilled to drain, I can make most NPC ships (Dreadnoughts excluded, due to them being Dreadnoughts) completely defenseless.
I don't have the Dyson Destroyer on that character. I have 0 xp in all reputations, except for turing in Omega marks for Dilithium. The Aegis set isn't the best out there. But I can succesfully fight and defeat NPC battleships, and if you give me enough time, even a Dreadnought.
Moral of story: you don't need the newest gimmicks to succeed in STO. Even the old stuff that is relatively easy to acquire will do the trick.
Except if you are in PvP. Then yeah, you might have a use for all the gimmicks and grinding.
I actually reduced my active characters to 5, and that still feels like far to many for the grind.
Don't get the math the Cryptic developers mind; reduced active characters = reduced income. Its that simple.
These grinds are too much. It has been grind after grind after grind. I've done Sphere of Influence at least once on all of my 32 characters to get the Obelisk Carrier, Fastest Game on Ice on 10 of my characters every day of the winter event, and in the exhausting anniversary event, nabbed the Science Destroyers on every one of my 32 characters.
After the mirror event(which I'm running on my 15 maxed-level characters btw), I'm done grinding till the summer event. If season 9's featured episode requires a grind, I might get it on one character. MIGHT.
Your post actually made me re-think the way I will be working with my alts... From this day, Only my factional mains will get the different ships (perhaps one of the other too if it seems to suit my playstyle for that char), and apart from that, I will only get Dil rewards on all my alts (for the fleet Holdings... My fleet is small).
Thanks for putting a finger on what has been bugging me.
Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
Not to be rude, but do you really need everything? I've only got 6 characters, 2 of which i regularly play but i never feel the need to get everything on all of them..
I can see where the OP is coming from. I too have many alts. Game play begins to feel as work, when you do those events on all your alts. So you have to be selective.
Here is an idea for those events that give you a ship. As an altoholic the fact is that one time this character is my favourite, another time another character is my favourite. You might say, I have changing mains. The problem comes with the fact that the ships are bound to character and I am not always sure if it is the right ship for the character. To be sure, you do the event on all.
I would pay for a feature that let me redistribute these reward ships to one of my alts. I can do the event with the characters that suits them. Yes, i am more ore less a roleplayer, my characters have character, hence the reason they are there. After the event, I can give the ship to the character that fits it the most.
Not to be rude, but do you really need everything? I've only got 6 characters, 2 of which i regularly play but i never feel the need to get everything on all of them..
same old story too many characters not enough time to play them all.
we could all have loads of characters but why waste your time doing the same stuff over and over when you could be doing differant stuff with a select few characters.
the majority of people who complain about grind and not having enough time to do certain special events turn out to have more characters then they can handle.
i have no problem with rep, no problem with special events and no problem finding time to have fun doing the things i want to do.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
I don't like grinding. Especially on 32 characters simultaneously. Nah, the reason I even wanted to do the anni event on every character is because I couldn't choose chich characters to get the ships on. So I just done 'em all.
I liked Sphere of Influence though. One run and done, unless you wanna get the bonuses. The anni event though? NONONONO! =p
I still dont get why you keep doing it on so many characters.
i totally understand that its sometimes difficult to decide which characters should fly which ship, and your choice may change later on so you'd rather be safe, but surely you must have an idea which ones will never fly the ship, or which ones probably wont.
even if you cut it down to 15 characters, its still probably more than enough and it will save you from going crazy.
same old story too many characters not enough time to play them all.
we could all have loads of characters but why waste your time doing the same stuff over and over when you could be doing differant stuff with a select few characters.
I still dont get why you keep doing it on so many characters.
Because even though I'm not an RPer, each of my characters has a bio and personality, and I like to build their abilities and ships around those themes.
the majority of people who complain about grind and not having enough time to do certain special events turn out to have more characters then they can handle.
I don't think many players have 32 or more characters. In fact, a lot of complaints come from players with 5 or less.
i totally understand that its sometimes difficult to decide which characters should fly which ship, and your choice may change later on so you'd rather be safe, but surely you must have an idea which ones will never fly the ship, or which ones probably wont.
even if you cut it down to 15 characters, its still probably more than enough and it will save you from going crazy.
Nah, it's hard to tell at this point which character gets which ship. Actually, I haven't even gotten a good idea of what 'theme ' I'll go with for them all yet. Though I have rounded a lot of it down(for instance, if I have one or more 'drain' characters, it'll probably be one or more of the ten with Breen ships). And the release of a new ship might change that, or add a dynamic that I want to dedicate a character to. With 32 characters, I'll always have options.
Why are you so hostile? You sound like you want me to suffer or something.
It's just a game, chill out...
I'm guessing he's hostile because the problem isn't exactly the grind, though the game is grindy at endgame. The problem is you have 32 characters and you have intentionally made everything 32 times more grindy then it needs to be.
I have 3 characters and don't find the grind to be overwhelming. I find the lack of new grind content to be overwhelming. I'd happily keep grinding stfs and whatnot, I'd just like some additional stfs and whatnot to choose from.
I'm guessing he's hostile because the problem isn't exactly the grind, though the game is grindy at endgame. The problem is you have 32 characters and you have intentionally made everything 32 times more grindy then it needs to be.
So what? He doesn't have to grind with the characters, I do. He has no business saying mean things like that.
So what? He doesn't have to grind with the characters, I do. He has no business saying mean things like that.
Your opening sentence on the thread is "These grinds are too much."
Of course they're too much when you have to do each one 32 times. You have crippled yourself. The game didn't grind you into dust. You did that with 32 characters. If the game only allowed you to have 3 characters you'd have 1/10th of the grind and 90% less angst. So you did it to yourself.
And as far as people being mean, if you don't want people to disagree with you don't post on forums.
And as far as people being mean, if you don't want people to disagree with you don't post on forums.
It's not the disagreeing part, it's the blatant insult. It really hurt me. I'm insecure enough as it is, I don't need to be exposed to that kind of thing. And I'm pretty sure it's not even allowed on this board...
Again, so what? That doesn't give anyone the right to be hostile. At all
It's not the disagreeing part, it's the blatant insult. It really hurt me. I'm insecure enough as it is, I don't need to be exposed to that kind of thing. And I'm pretty sure it's not even allowed on this board...
Hey there,
My advise about your grind...
tone it down to have like maybe 2 - 4 toons. I myself have 4 and the Mirror event take me under 2 hours to do but that's MY choice and I will continue with it as 1 I enjoy the event and 2 playing it my fellow Star Trek Battles channel mates has made it less painfull.
In terms of people being hostile... well you will probably get more of that even more so saying that you don't want it.
My advise about that... don't care about the negative posts and look for the posts that offer you help/advise.
And I'm pretty sure it's not even allowed on this board...
Telling someone their problem is their own fault isn't a personal attack. It's the truth. He didn't call you a bad name. He didn't say you needed to die a slow death. He didn't insult your lineage. He simply said it was your own fault. You reap what you sow. In this instance you sowed 32 charaters and now you are reaping all the grind that goes with them.
Telling someone their problem is their own fault isn't a personal attack. It's the truth. He didn't call you a bad name. He didn't say you needed to die a slow death. He didn't insult your lineage. He simply said it was your own fault. You reap what you sow. In this instance you sowed 32 charaters and now you are reaping all the grind that goes with them.
I don't understand what my choices have to do with it. And even though he didn't call me a bad name or any of that, it seemed very hostile, and it really hurt me.
Now I never usually complain at all about anything, but I feel that I needed to let out a little steam this morning on the forum. That doesn't give anyone the right to flame me like that.
So what? He doesn't have to grind with the characters, I do. He has no business saying mean things like that.
That right there is why you're feeling burned out. You feel that you have to grind on all your characters. You really don't. You can do the events on just a few of them. Or skip it all together. I didn't do any of the summer or winter ship grinds because I was never going to use them. I did the grindaversary on only my sci character who ended up not even using the ship.
I don't think he's being mean or hostile. He's just being very blunt about it. It really is your own fault for imposing that on yourself. If you don't pace yourself, regardless of whatever grinds Cryptic throws our way, you're gonna crash and burn. I would highly suggest that you do take that break.
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I stoped with the grind on my 14 characters, science carrier, only got it on 1 science.
Winter-event only did it on 1 that used the old breen-ship and even the mirror grind i only do on 7 characters. (50.000 dil and a crappy doff)
I liked Sphere of Influence though. One run and done, unless you wanna get the bonuses. The anni event though? NONONONO! =p
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but the next breen ship will most probably not get grinded and i will watch the people running and triying to beat the snowman. and play the normal story missions for once in a while to get the feeling again that i am playing the game not the game is playing me
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Due to my college, I have been in a very hard spot to grind for almost a year. I have not a single character with full rep (although my main has Omega and Romulan, and is working on Nukara and Dyson). I might do the rep some day in the future for all my chars. But that is completely optional.
Take my science character. During the Summer giveaway, I got the Nebula for that one. I received an Aegis set (can't remember how tbh), got a Bioneural warhead from the exchange, got 4 fleet antiproton beam arrays and the omni-directional one from SoI. That Nebula is a very powerful ship. Skilled to drain, I can make most NPC ships (Dreadnoughts excluded, due to them being Dreadnoughts) completely defenseless.
I don't have the Dyson Destroyer on that character. I have 0 xp in all reputations, except for turing in Omega marks for Dilithium. The Aegis set isn't the best out there. But I can succesfully fight and defeat NPC battleships, and if you give me enough time, even a Dreadnought.
Moral of story: you don't need the newest gimmicks to succeed in STO. Even the old stuff that is relatively easy to acquire will do the trick.
Except if you are in PvP. Then yeah, you might have a use for all the gimmicks and grinding.
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Don't get the math the Cryptic developers mind; reduced active characters = reduced income. Its that simple.
No, but but he'll most likely use the set on a lot of those, and you need the grind-dyson-ship for that.
Here you go buddy, have break
Breen ships? Got em.
8 Chars with Dysons carrier? Got em....
Risa Speed-boat? Got it... 8x
You see the pattern...?
Your post actually made me re-think the way I will be working with my alts... From this day, Only my factional mains will get the different ships (perhaps one of the other too if it seems to suit my playstyle for that char), and apart from that, I will only get Dil rewards on all my alts (for the fleet Holdings... My fleet is small).
Thanks for putting a finger on what has been bugging me.
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Here is an idea for those events that give you a ship. As an altoholic the fact is that one time this character is my favourite, another time another character is my favourite. You might say, I have changing mains. The problem comes with the fact that the ships are bound to character and I am not always sure if it is the right ship for the character. To be sure, you do the event on all.
I would pay for a feature that let me redistribute these reward ships to one of my alts. I can do the event with the characters that suits them. Yes, i am more ore less a roleplayer, my characters have character, hence the reason they are there. After the event, I can give the ship to the character that fits it the most.
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we could all have loads of characters but why waste your time doing the same stuff over and over when you could be doing differant stuff with a select few characters.
the majority of people who complain about grind and not having enough time to do certain special events turn out to have more characters then they can handle.
i have no problem with rep, no problem with special events and no problem finding time to have fun doing the things i want to do.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
I still dont get why you keep doing it on so many characters.
i totally understand that its sometimes difficult to decide which characters should fly which ship, and your choice may change later on so you'd rather be safe, but surely you must have an idea which ones will never fly the ship, or which ones probably wont.
even if you cut it down to 15 characters, its still probably more than enough and it will save you from going crazy.
I don't think many players have 32 or more characters. In fact, a lot of complaints come from players with 5 or less.
Nah, it's hard to tell at this point which character gets which ship. Actually, I haven't even gotten a good idea of what 'theme ' I'll go with for them all yet. Though I have rounded a lot of it down(for instance, if I have one or more 'drain' characters, it'll probably be one or more of the ten with Breen ships). And the release of a new ship might change that, or add a dynamic that I want to dedicate a character to. With 32 characters, I'll always have options.
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Not all that bothered about my alts, but two of them are not all that far behind my main.
I've got 9 max-level toons. Why would I want to do MI nine times a night? Or get them all to T5 reps? Ain't nobody got time for that.
irony is: All mine are still boxed.
Edit: Good news: First contact day isn't a grind...
It's just a game, chill out...
Edit: That cut deep man. I didn't come to these forums to be insulted like this.
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Doing it for 32 characters...no...just no. I mean EVERYTHING would become a grind, if you have to do it like 32 times a day, even sex...
I have 3 characters and don't find the grind to be overwhelming. I find the lack of new grind content to be overwhelming. I'd happily keep grinding stfs and whatnot, I'd just like some additional stfs and whatnot to choose from.
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Of course they're too much when you have to do each one 32 times. You have crippled yourself. The game didn't grind you into dust. You did that with 32 characters. If the game only allowed you to have 3 characters you'd have 1/10th of the grind and 90% less angst. So you did it to yourself.
And as far as people being mean, if you don't want people to disagree with you don't post on forums.
It's not the disagreeing part, it's the blatant insult. It really hurt me. I'm insecure enough as it is, I don't need to be exposed to that kind of thing. And I'm pretty sure it's not even allowed on this board...
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Hey there,
My advise about your grind...
tone it down to have like maybe 2 - 4 toons. I myself have 4 and the Mirror event take me under 2 hours to do but that's MY choice and I will continue with it as 1 I enjoy the event and 2 playing it my fellow Star Trek Battles channel mates has made it less painfull.
In terms of people being hostile... well you will probably get more of that even more so saying that you don't want it.
My advise about that... don't care about the negative posts and look for the posts that offer you help/advise.
Now I never usually complain at all about anything, but I feel that I needed to let out a little steam this morning on the forum. That doesn't give anyone the right to flame me like that.
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That right there is why you're feeling burned out. You feel that you have to grind on all your characters. You really don't. You can do the events on just a few of them. Or skip it all together. I didn't do any of the summer or winter ship grinds because I was never going to use them. I did the grindaversary on only my sci character who ended up not even using the ship.
I don't think he's being mean or hostile. He's just being very blunt about it. It really is your own fault for imposing that on yourself. If you don't pace yourself, regardless of whatever grinds Cryptic throws our way, you're gonna crash and burn. I would highly suggest that you do take that break.
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