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chalpenchalpen Member Posts: 2,207 Arc User
You capture a tholian vessel.
You drag it all the way to a starbase. You gut it of boiling lava. You replace all the computers with Starfleet/KDF computers. You put in a breathable atmosphere and normal gravity
But you don't change the bridge.
That...is impossible. There is no budget for it. You must leave it the way it is.

It isn't like building a kdf/fed bridge isn't possible or COMPLETELY LOGICAL.
You just...don't feel like it.


I think someone should do Star Trek Online fan fiction on that.
Should I start posting again after all this time?
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  • gofasternowgofasternow Member Posts: 1,390 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    chalpen wrote: »
    You capture a tholian vessel.
    You drag it all the way to a starbase. You gut it of boiling lava. You replace all the computers with Starfleet/KDF computers. You put in a breathable atmosphere and normal gravity
    But you don't change the bridge.
    That...is impossible. There is no budget for it. You must leave it the way it is.

    It isn't like building a kdf/fed bridge isn't possible or COMPLETELY LOGICAL.
    You just...don't feel like it.


    I think someone should do Star Trek Online fan fiction on that.

    ...damn, and it'll be three months before the next Redux event! Quick, someone suggest it!

    But, yeah, it IS kinda weird. Before I found out you could change the Chet Grell Breen Cruiser, I couldn't help but laugh as my Voth BOFF was parking his hinder quarters in front of a fan blowing out cold air. Shouldn't he be passed out asleep instead?!
  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    From what Tacofangs said, the interior of the ship is still boiling lava. The only part of the Tholian ship that is habitable by non-tholians is the bridge.

    I'm assuming Tholian defectors/privateers crew your ship while you and your bridge officers and doffs inhabit a really cramped bridge.
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  • chalpenchalpen Member Posts: 2,207 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    iconians wrote: »
    From what Tacofangs said, the interior of the ship is still boiling lava. The only part of the Tholian ship that is habitable by non-tholians is the bridge.

    I'm assuming Tholian defectors/privateers crew your ship while you and your bridge officers and doffs inhabit a really cramped bridge.


    Nah.
    A captain needs control of his ship.
    5 kdf/starfleet guys on the bridge and 3k tholians in the back room doesn't smell of someone with control of his ship.


    Lowly Tholian Engineer A: I am just going to pull this leaver and flood the bridge with lava. It should kill the captain and his 4 crew instantly. He won't even have time to react.

    Lowly Tholian Engineer B: Wouldn't that make us bad people?
    Should I start posting again after all this time?
  • chalpenchalpen Member Posts: 2,207 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    You would sure hate one of your crew to be frustrated with the comprehensive dental plan as he hurdles your ship into the sun
    Should I start posting again after all this time?
  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    chalpen wrote: »
    Nah.
    A captain needs control of his ship.
    5 kdf/starfleet guys on the bridge and 3k tholians in the back room doesn't smell of someone with control of his ship.


    Lowly Tholian Engineer A: I am just going to pull this leaver and flood the bridge with lava. It should kill the captain and his 4 crew instantly. He won't even have time to react.

    Lowly Tholian Engineer B: Wouldn't that make us bad people?

    On the other hand, the 5 Starfleet/KDF guys could simply choose to flood the rest of the ship with liquid nitrogen and lock-out such commands from the bridge.

    And anyway, like I said if Tacofangs says the rest of the ship is still uninhabitable without an EVA suit, then I'm assuming the rest of the crew are tholian defectors. They have no reason to mutiny.
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  • chalpenchalpen Member Posts: 2,207 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    iconians wrote: »
    On the other hand, the 5 Starfleet/KDF guys could simply choose to flood the rest of the ship with liquid nitrogen and lock-out such commands from the bridge.

    And anyway, like I said if Tacofangs says the rest of the ship is still uninhabitable without an EVA suit, then I'm assuming the rest of the crew are tholian defectors. They have no reason to mutiny.

    I can't get my condo association to agree on anything, you think 3k tholians area on the level? IMHO, certain non faction ships should have the option to change bridges to certain faction ones
    Should I start posting again after all this time?
  • zipagatzipagat Member Posts: 1,204 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Well its no more implausible than putting the Odyssey/Bortas bridge on a Miranda/BOP I guess.
  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    chalpen wrote: »
    I can't get my condo association to agree on anything, you think 3k tholians area on the level? IMHO, certain non faction ships should have the option to change bridges to certain faction ones

    Your condo association isn't fighting the borgconiandinelachis, they're also not made up of a sentient crystalline spider-like species (although HOAs are pretty brutal).

    I don't disagree with being able to gut your lockbox ship's interior and put in a faction ship bridge in its place, however.
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,672 Community Moderator
    edited March 2014
    I point at iconians' sig for an answer to why we can't do anything with the interior of a Recluse. :D
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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  • zipagatzipagat Member Posts: 1,204 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    rattler2 wrote: »
    I point at iconians' sig for an answer to why we can't do anything with the interior of a Recluse. :D

    Anything in STO that makes no sense can be solved by his sig tbh.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,672 Community Moderator
    edited March 2014
    Very ture. :cool:
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
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  • chalpenchalpen Member Posts: 2,207 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    i think the worst bridge in the game is the Jem Dreadnought's bridge.
    4k people on the ship but you work in a broom closet.
    Should I start posting again after all this time?
  • nathraelnathrael Member Posts: 264 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Would be nice if the grav plates were programable so you could walk to the other parts of the bridge.

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  • scottapricescottaprice Member Posts: 31 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    The Bridge renovation materials will be in on Tuesday....

    :P
  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    zipagat wrote: »
    Anything in STO that makes no sense can be solved by his sig tbh.

    I can't take full credit for creating the meme. It used to be "Everything is a Nemesis plot." from City of Heroes/City of Villains. I just took it with me to STO and thankfully the Ancient Aliens guy was already a meme.

    That and Cryptic reused the trope even before the game launched (with Janeway foreshadowing the Iconians having a direct hand in the Hobus Supernova).

    It might be my opinion, but it seems to me they're very well aware of how cliche having the Iconians behind everything is.

    After reading the blog about the Undine, I noticed they retconned the Iconians being responsible for antagonizing the Undine into believing the Federation violated the truce Janeway made with them -- to the people Janeway made a truce with was only a "small group" of the species and were not representative of the entire government, who disavowed any truce made.

    Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but it seems to me that they're trying to tone down the Iconians being behind 'everything' in STO.

    Or maybe that's just what the Iconians want you to think. :eek:
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  • kestrelliuskestrellius Member Posts: 462 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Given a choice between crewing your ship with humanoids, or crystalspiders, which would you choose?

    Crystalspiders are just better. Search your logic. You will know it to be true. I mean come on, the humanoids crewing the ships in most ST series basically lose every fight they're in, except in DS9. And that was only because of the Sisko.
  • phoeniciusphoenicius Member Posts: 762 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    chalpen wrote: »
    i think the worst bridge in the game is the Jem Dreadnought's bridge.
    4k people on the ship but you work in a broom closet.

    agreed

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  • mosquito214mosquito214 Member Posts: 138 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    chalpen wrote: »
    Nah.
    A captain needs control of his ship.
    5 kdf/starfleet guys on the bridge and 3k tholians in the back room doesn't smell of someone with control of his ship.

    Nah, they just crew the ships with Horta!
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    chalpen wrote: »
    i think the worst bridge in the game is the Jem Dreadnought's bridge.
    4k people on the ship but you work in a broom closet.
    It's canon. :P
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  • nyxadrillnyxadrill Member Posts: 1,242 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    chalpen wrote: »
    i think the worst bridge in the game is the Jem Dreadnought's bridge.
    4k people on the ship but you work in a broom closet.

    You've just made me spit coffee everywhere :) lol so true!

    But at least its got easy access for disabled crew, I mean there are grab handles everywhere!
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  • tenkaritenkari Member Posts: 2,906 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    nyxadrill wrote: »
    You've just made me spit coffee everywhere :) lol so true!

    But at least its got easy access for disabled crew, I mean there are grab handles everywhere!

    and no steps like some of the other bridges.
  • shadowwraith77shadowwraith77 Member Posts: 6,395 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    phoenicius wrote: »
    agreed

    /10chars

    I don't know the scimitar could take a close 2nd with that one.
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  • bubblygumsworthbubblygumsworth Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    chalpen wrote: »
    You capture a tholian vessel.
    You drag it all the way to a starbase. You gut it of boiling lava. You replace all the computers with Starfleet/KDF computers. You put in a breathable atmosphere and normal gravity
    But you don't change the bridge.
    That...is impossible. There is no budget for it. You must leave it the way it is.

    It isn't like building a kdf/fed bridge isn't possible or COMPLETELY LOGICAL.
    You just...don't feel like it.


    I think someone should do Star Trek Online fan fiction on that.

    Life support settings have been optimised for its new crew, someone turned the heater off and the air conditioning on.

    As for the computer system - First contact with the Tholians happened around TOS era, I'm assuming by now that there is sufficient knowledge on their language and culture. Learning that wouldnt take no longer than a couple of evening classes at the local community college.
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