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r24681012r24681012 Member Posts: 173 Arc User
cryptic seem more interested in revamping stuff for the newbbies and neglecting the people who have been playing this game for over 3/4 years surely they should be adding new content to maintain there solid player base that they have i for one and i know some others are getting tired of the revamp after revamp starting thinking of the long time players and give us some fun stuff to do what do you guys think
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  • edgecrysgeredgecrysger Member Posts: 2,740 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    And another foolish people asking for new content, god i wonder , are you guys going to learn someday???

    Anyways, re-vamped content is NOT new content, and its precisely what this game needs.

    Well, what this game needs is to get all the bugs and fails fixed, but since that is not going to happen, since people keep asking and wondering for new content, no matter what, just sit tight and wait for the re vamped content, because that is the best thing that could happen (since we are not going to get things fixed).
  • r24681012r24681012 Member Posts: 173 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    just because some peoples opinions differ to yours that does mean we are foolish it just means we prefer new content to revamp plain and simple
  • edgecrysgeredgecrysger Member Posts: 2,740 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    r24681012 wrote: »
    just because some peoples opinions differ to yours that does mean we are foolish it just means we prefer new content to revamp plain and simple

    I am just applying common sense. Something that a lot of people in this community seem to lack of, sorry but it is the pure truth.
  • stuntpilotstuntpilot Member Posts: 76 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    r24681012 wrote: »
    cryptic seem more interested in revamping stuff for the newbbies and neglecting the people who have been playing this game for over 3/4 years surely they should be adding new content to maintain there solid player base that they have i for one and i know some others are getting tired of the revamp after revamp starting thinking of the long time players and give us some fun stuff to do what do you guys think

    What?

    ESD isn't old content that exists just for new players. The Undine stuff isn't old content. Remastering older, ugly missions and mission environments is great because they were horrible eyesores before -- and older players can enjoy them via replays while new players will be less likely to just uninstall after seeing them.

    Seems to me that they are improving old locations for the benefit of everyone ... and, at the same time, releasing new content.

    I like it that they're fixing up older missions, making new mission lines (the Klingon storyline is really fantastic), and bringing the entire game up a few levels in quality. It makes me want to stick around more, not less.
  • solidneutroniumsolidneutronium Member Posts: 510 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    A specific monetization process must be associated to each new content. That's their business plan. So the faster a process can be implemented the faster new content is created. So think of ways for them to make money of new content. The more you think of the more content.
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  • captainrevo1captainrevo1 Member Posts: 3,948 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    They are adding new content. They add it all the time, so i fail to see the argument. its not like its only revamp and nothing else.

    what you basically mean is dont revamp anything and just do new stuff. which is all fine and well but when your existing playerbase is asking for revamped stffu which you're ignoring like reputations, and crafting and pvp and missions as well then its not just accommodating new players.

    from a business perspective if a player has been here for 4 years, chances they will be here for the next 4 years as well. there is no guarantee the new player that comes in will stay. if you can keep them then thats more money to be pumped back in to help everyone in the longrun.
  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,966 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    The aphorism you're looking for, OP, is "Reorganization to create the illusion of progress."

    I could tolerate the grind a lot better if they'd take some of the money they're throwing at these revamps and write a story that was internally consistent.
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  • ghyudtghyudt Member Posts: 1,112 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    r24681012 wrote: »
    cryptic seem more interested in revamping stuff for the newbbies and neglecting the people who have been playing this game for over 3/4 years surely they should be adding new content to maintain there solid player base that they have i for one and i know some others are getting tired of the revamp after revamp starting thinking of the long time players and give us some fun stuff to do what do you guys think

    Why? All the old players do is complain about everything. Besides, adding new stuff doesn't make any sense if the old stuff is going to get in the way. If you take a minute and stop acting like theyre supposed to cater to just the dedicated players, you may realize that all these changes are being made in preparation for something bigger. You'll get your new content, after the game has been leveled out.
  • smokeybacon90smokeybacon90 Member Posts: 2,252 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Whenever they release a FE you instead moan about not having enough revamps. In short, most of you are a load of entitled whiners.

    By the way, do you seriously think the systems dev in charge of the rep changes also makes new episodes and events?
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  • sabremeister1sabremeister1 Member Posts: 108 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    And another foolish people asking for new content, god i wonder , are you guys going to learn someday???

    Anyways, re-vamped content is NOT new content, and its precisely what this game needs.

    Well, what this game needs is to get all the bugs and fails fixed, but since that is not going to happen, since people keep asking and wondering for new content, no matter what, just sit tight and wait for the re vamped content, because that is the best thing that could happen (since we are not going to get things fixed).

    Exactly. Priority should be to fix what we already have, before adding more stuff that will probably not work. And if technology comes along that means anything new looks a lot better than what's already in the game, time should be spent making everything look like the new stuff.
  • karochongkarochong Member Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    don't mean to hi-jack the thread but wanted to ask how edgecrysger managed to get the skin on his dyson destroyer in his sig? is it photoshop'd or did you create it. Looks awesome!

    thanks
  • shadowwraith77shadowwraith77 Member Posts: 6,395 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    karochong wrote: »
    don't mean to hi-jack the thread but wanted to ask how edgecrysger managed to get the skin on his dyson destroyer in his sig? is it photoshop'd or did you create it. Looks awesome!

    thanks

    Looks like the Jem'hadar shield array, but I could be mistaken.
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  • vamankvamank Member Posts: 366 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    I am very happy with the bug fixes and revamp. Content can wait until the game runs more smoothly and less buggy.
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  • sernonserculionsernonserculion Member Posts: 750 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    vamank wrote: »
    I am very happy with the bug fixes and revamp. Content can wait until the game runs more smoothly and less buggy.

    Agreed. Building a roof on a house that falls apart isn't always the best way to go about it. It also looks better for new people, a resource we must not forget about.


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  • revandarklighterrevandarklighter Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Agreed. Building a roof on a house that falls apart isn't always the best way to go about it. It also looks better for new people, a resource we must not forget about.


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    A perfect analogy.

    Still: That we NEED new content is out of question. And a lot of "revamps" we get are unnecessary. But there are a couple of revamps I wanna see on the other hand..

    Ultimately we need both.
  • dragonsbrethrendragonsbrethren Member Posts: 1,854 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    The revamps are sorely needed, the early content in this game doesn't hold a candle to the new stuff. And it's not like they're not adding more new stuff at the same time, so everyone benefits.
  • shadowwraith77shadowwraith77 Member Posts: 6,395 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    The revamps are sorely needed, the early content in this game doesn't hold a candle to the new stuff. And it's not like they're not adding more new stuff at the same time, so everyone benefits.

    If adding short played same difficulty content is some people's idea of new content, than they should be really happy with all the new grind being added with no major rep benefits without sacrifing others.
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  • coupaholiccoupaholic Member Posts: 2,188 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Why?

    New content comes into the game all the time. It is a constant stream of seasons, events and sometimes expansions.

    Revisions, balancing and general cleaning up comes around far less often. So be glad S9 is addressing some very crucial systems that have needed looking at for a while.

    I'm sure they'll get back to pure content updates soon enough, the summer event won't be far away now.
  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    r24681012 wrote: »
    they should be adding new content

    They ARE adding new content. New story missions, new STFs all in the works with the Undine rep. And then there's a new expansion in the works with all new content.

    So while they're also working on revamps and the like, there are team members working on brand new content.
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  • tyranthraxisiityranthraxisii Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    I thought we just got a ton of new content not to long ago?
    Legacy of Romulus
    Solanae Dyson Sphere
    Upcoming Undine content
    What's wrong with revamping stale stuff while working on the bigger better?
    I Personally wish Qonos would get a rehash, that place makes my eyes hurt, and seems to have started having performance issues in the recent past around the challenge floor.
    The Drozana revamp was kewl, I am hoping K7, and DS9 follow suit. It would also be nice to be able to do more at Defera before the Borg invasion. Have you actually looked at the details of the city you beam into during the Breen FS? They could do a lot with that place.
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    Also, it would be nice if the outer sections of sector space had more purpose then 1 mission through the storylines....
    Talking Zeta Andromodae, Iota Pavonis, Gamma Orionis, and maybe deeper KDF territories....Would that count as new or revamped content?
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  • puttenhamputtenham Member Posts: 1,052 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    what this game needs is a massive increase in the dev department, and a massive expansion.. (not the fail lor release that i find pathetic they call an expansion._)

    it needs to be something that keeps people busy for a while.. with not just one or two new gimicks, but a sluth of story line, and content to support it.

    i assume that cryptic is about to get into the guiness book of world records for dragging a gaming community through the same endgame content for the longest period of time.

    honestly, we need new stf's, like 4 or 5 new ones all dropped at the same time, making the older ones slightly obsolete.

    i can honsestly say, in my time since beta with this game, i have felt like i have been flying around in circles for the entire time. case and point.. the old stf's got old, so instead of making new ones, we got the same story line, just a revamped way of playing them.. ummmmm.. no... and we have only recieved one new stf since the inception of the game, but that doesnt count, cause we lost one at the same time.

    the mu event is attrocious as its 15 minutes of running around pushing space bar and f. i applaud them for trying to make it count on certain ships, but, it didnt quite grab. (though a step in the right direction). the worst part about it is, when you finish the 15 minutes of blowing up anything that moves, and closing rifts, you move on to the "boss" section of the instance, which is, you guessed it, blowing up everything that moves and closing more rifts.. lol...
    the mu event probably took them about a day to make from scratch..

    we need smartly built, worthwhile, and challenging content.. i honestly feel like this game has gravitated towards the kiddy side of the pool..
  • revandarklighterrevandarklighter Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    puttenham wrote: »

    honestly, we need new stf's, like 4 or 5 new ones all dropped at the same time, making the older ones slightly obsolete.

    Making content obsolete does not sound like a smart idea to me...
    i can honsestly say, in my time since beta with this game, i have felt like i have been flying around in circles for the entire time. case and point.. the old stf's got old, so instead of making new ones, we got the same story line, just a revamped way of playing them.. ummmmm.. no...



    and we have only recieved one new stf since the inception of the game, but that doesnt count, cause we lost one at the same time.
    ...

    we need smartly built, worthwhile, and challenging content.. i honestly feel like this game has gravitated towards the kiddy side of the pool..

    For once, I can't say that often enough, a major problem is that a big chunk of content is simply excluded. This game has more content, but it is unused due to the lack of rewards.

    But I agree on the smarter/more content part.

    Actually that game lacks ANY real end content.
    And I would go further: they didn't remove 1 stf, they removed 4.
    The current "stfs" are hardly a shadow if what they were. And what they were was not that great in the first place ( I still have to laugh about their exaggerated opinion of themselves when they called those things "raidisodes". That were not raids, that were instances, and other MMOs have that kind of content already in their earliest gameplay stages.), but it was at least something that could be counted as real end content.

    What we need IMO are real raids and instances.
    That means missions that are not designed for random groups, missions that take time, missions we do not every day, and missions that actually require good equip. Because everything in pve can be done with white equip with little problems.

    I personally thing we "should" have at least one "instance" for every rep and at least 1 or 2 raids at this point.
  • nightkennightken Member Posts: 2,824 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Making content obsolete does not sound like a smart idea to me...



    For once, I can't say that often enough, a major problem is that a big chunk of content is simply excluded. This game has more content, but it is unused due to the lack of rewards.

    But I agree on the smarter/more content part.

    Actually that game lacks ANY real end content.
    And I would go further: they didn't remove 1 stf, they removed 4.
    The current "stfs" are hardly a shadow if what they were. And what they were was not that great in the first place ( I still have to laugh about their exaggerated opinion of themselves when they called those things "raidisodes". That were not raids, that were instances, and other MMOs have that kind of content already in their earliest gameplay stages.), but it was at least something that could be counted as real end content.

    What we need IMO are real raids and instances.
    That means missions that are not designed for random groups, missions that take time, missions we do not every day, and missions that actually require good equip. Because everything in pve can be done with white equip with little problems.

    I personally thing we "should" have at least one "instance" for every rep and at least 1 or 2 raids at this point.


    one point before I go play, the moment they actually challenging content two things are going to happen, elitist will whine about, well everyone, sucking except themselves no matter if it's true or not. and whining about p2w will get worse.

    if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
  • stardestroyer001stardestroyer001 Member Posts: 2,615 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    r24681012 wrote: »
    cryptic seem more interested in revamping stuff for the newbbies and neglecting the people who have been playing this game for over 3/4 years surely they should be adding new content to maintain there solid player base that they have i for one and i know some others are getting tired of the revamp after revamp starting thinking of the long time players and give us some fun stuff to do what do you guys think

    I strongly disagree, based on two principles:

    1) New stuff = More bugs. We don't need any more bugs than we currently have. Like, for example, that "info" panel which STILL won't show the character bios!

    2) Revamps + sales offer Cryptic a cheaper avenue to gain money compared to effort put in the revamp. In a revamp, you don't have to build things from scratch, and thus costs Cryptic less in paying their employees. Which in turn allows them to work on getting my Galaxy model to look better! Oh wait, just kidding.
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  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    The STO Cycle continues, people ask for revamp complain nothing gets done, then something happens another groups shows up complains they want new stuff, then new stuff shows up, and the other group is asking for cryptic to revisit stuff, and so on and so on.
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  • stardestroyer001stardestroyer001 Member Posts: 2,615 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    neoakiraii wrote: »
    The STO Cycle continues, people ask for revamp complain nothing gets done, then something happens another groups shows up complains they want new stuff, then new stuff shows up, and the other group is asking for cryptic to revisit stuff, and so on and so on.

    I sense an endless cycle of horses passing into the other world. :(
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  • unangbangkayunangbangkay Member Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    i Sense An Endless Cycle Of Horses Passing Into The Other World. :(

    None Of This New Stuff Is To My Taste, Therefore None Of It Counts When I Complain About How This Game Has Nothing New In It
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