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cnidaria22
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Remember how the U.S.S. Reliant in Star Trek 2 the wrath of khan weapon configuration? It had a top mounted torpedo launcher and dual cannons. The avenger battle cruiser has 5 weapon stations. Just for this ship build, what if there was a way to break it down to dual torpedo launcher, since in the movie it was a top mount, 2 cannons, two forward phaser banks, two aft? then just like how the dyson ship has the omni directional antiproton beam, have the torpedos be omni directional, but make them immovable just like the solonae cannons? then have the Khan costume for all the characters?
2 forward
2 cannon fixed
dual omni directional torpedo launcher fixed
2 aft?
2 forward
2 cannon fixed
dual omni directional torpedo launcher fixed
2 aft?
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Yes he does. Should just merge this thread with one of the many "I want a T5 Connie" threads.
My nickel.
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Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
As stated by STO lore, all the ships are modular at this point and built from the same technology and materials.
The Miranda (and by extension Centaur as well) are not the same ships we have seen on screen. The Miranda in particular has extensive changes to it. Its like comparing the original 23rd Century NX-2000 Excelsior with the later USS Lakota. There is no comparison there.
The Dominion era was not merciful to any ships. If you paid attention, plenty of ships got annihilated or disabled pretty fast. Want some examples of non-Miranda ships getting owned?
- Akira getting destroyed by a handful of beam attacks by Cardassian orbital platform.
- Excelsior gets its saucer cut through by the same kind of platform.
- Vor'chas getting insta-killed by Jem'Hadar suicide runs.
- D'Deridexes and Keldons getting owned by Dominion ships several times over, being sitting ducks.
- Klingon B'Rels exploding after getting hit by single photon torpedoes (which ironically happened before, see the battle in Generations).
- Jem'Hadar fighters exploding after 1 second of phaser fire on them.
Case and point: everything died real quick in the Dominion War, with the exception of the Defiant (hero-plot alloy FTW). It was essentially Star Trek style space battles with instagib enabled.
While the Miranda is old, I will never get behind the hate on it. The above list is only a few examples on top of my head of other ships getting shafted by the FX teams. It can hardly be a measurement. Klingons still field ancient designs and get away with it, even Romulans started resurrecting ENT era designs.
We got so much stuff from the ENT era buzzing about now, that I truly don't understand the lack of at least TMP era ships.
Make it a 2500 Zen ship (if you must), call it the Reliant class and give it a unique light cruiser-ish model for the current era. Heck, it would finally be a non-escort/battlecruiser on the fed side that could actually be any good with cannons.
Bugs popped like ballons too and they became STOs first god ship.
Excelsiors are almost as old and didn't fare much better, yet outperform the Galaxy ingame.
The ENT era T'Varo design is one of the best Romulan ships.
Request for ships like the Miranda, Constellation and Constitution wouldn't pop up so often if Cryptic would have decided to simply not allow anything prior to TNG from the start, which I admit is how it should have been given the time frame of STOs story. But as long as these even older ships are around and keep getting made, any request for TOS (or at the very least TMP) era stuff is totally validated in my opinion.
If you are one of those that has a problem with that, its not the fans fault that these requests keep coming.
"Let them eat static!"
Except the Excelsior is younger and has been shown to be more modular in the past, besides why do we need a Miranda when the Nebula was built to fit the role the Miranda used to?
Why do we need an excelsior when the Ambassador, Galaxy, Sovereign, Odyssey and Avenger can all fill its role now?
Is that the same DS9 where the Centaur chased off Bug ships? Yeah, I'm not sure you want to use DS9 as your evidence that the T1 starter ship is weak. The Centaur gets talked up quite a bit by Sisko in that show.
The Centaur also was established in that episode as having chased off Bug ships prior to its engagement with Sisko. And was shown performing admirably in the battle of Cardassia. And Sisko talked up its captain quite well.
No, the Centaur was a bad### ship and could easily fit into T5.
Also really? You're going to make the weaksauce argument that Sisko didn't want to engage a fellow starfleet officer, when that's the exact same case with the Excelsior vs. Defiant standoff that everyone ALWAYS cites as why the Excel can rock it at T5? The fact that the officers didn't want to follow the orders to fire on fellow starfleet officers never leaks into those comparisons? Why try that now?
The Centaur can fight bug ships. The Starter Ship can be T5.
in peace time the nebula excelled vs the miranda. the miranda during wartime and was primary choice over the larger, slower nebula science ship which in canon would never of been put into a fight because it was not designed for such a role, the same with the nova.
as for the centaur, that frigate was used in defense vs pirate activity like the saber which was the same, a frigate build for the role but took part in the war, however even the centaur is still a formidable craft when used correctly.
when PWE pull out a dominion faction and there is a t1 and t5 bug ship then there is no further choice but to make the miranda t5 version, simply because there are t5 frigate sized iconic ships in sto.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
indeed the centaur is basically an excel saucer head with an engineering section and nacelles attached to the underside. if the centaur was upgraded and got another 2 impulse reactors and upgrades the same way the lakota did, it would be fast, agile and deadly.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
Check Memory Alpha or Beta. One of the pods was completely combat oriented with a bunch of torpedo launchers and extra arrays.
It'd be nice for Cryptic to introduce that versatility in to that ship.
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Not entirely sure how it'd stand out from the pack though, except on looks.
Doubt it'd be a heavy engineering boat, and its clearly not a high end tactical science ship.
Which leaves it heavily science based.
Just wondering how, apart from looks, itd be different to say a Recon science vessel.
Functionally? It would have Cruiser Commands instead of Sensors and Target Subsystems beams.
Oh, good point.
So, a bit like a weaker hulled ambassador? With better turn?
Hmmm, that actually sounds good.
The funny (or not, depending on how you look at it) thing is that the one we hav in this game IS the torpedo version. The actual science/sensor version was only seen in the "The Wounded".
http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070718221328/memoryalpha/de/images/d/db/NebulaSensorenModul.jpg
As I understand it the Lt Uni is supposed to represent the modular pod.
Back when the Nebula was introduced into the game Uni slots were something completley new on the Federation side.
Since its not a Connie, and therefore not forbidden by CBS, it is not impossible...
This.
BTW the Galaxy class didn't handle the Jem'Hadar ramming well either.
I personally always hated the Tier system. With having 2 Ent era ships in the federation t5 line I see no point in holding any ship back, including the infamous t5 Constitution.
Well how about some simple logic:
Since actual Starfleet Captains are not complete ******* the Centaur would not have attacked the assumed to be hostile Bug ship if that ship was generally massively superior (like t5 compared to t1 in STO).
After all the centaur picked the fight.
Apart from Sisko didn't shoot back so we have no idea how well the ship would faire since it was never shown again after rocks and shoals. Though I would imagine it is comparable to a bug ship at the least as it was the Centaur that started the fight.
Plus more importantly I seriously doubt it will ever see the light of day in STO as a T5 Centaur as it was a kitbash ship and Geko is not fond of them to say the least, a T5 Miranda might be what ends up in game or the Shir'kahr.
Seriously? What a lame cop-out. There are plenty of ships in the game now with lt uni slots and none of them have a modular pod. I doubt we'll ever see it because the Nebula is not a popular ship, but I would love to see it added to the "do over" list like the Galaxy.
I have never seen a Klingon BOP with a modular pod either and they had uni slots before anything else.
I don't think it was on the level of the Lakota some how as they very rapidly got out of dodge when some more bugs showed up.
And just no to the all uni thing, that is one of the few things the KDF still has that is a selling point for them alone it doesn't need taking away. Plus the Centaur is supposed to be a destroyer so it should be set up accordingly.
4/3 weapons
4 tac consoles, 3 eng, 3 sci
Same boff layout as the T4 prometheus (a LTC should be universal)
I would buy this today
Alternatively it would be even easier to implement if Cryptic took advantage of those latinum holo-ship costumes and offer it for canon ships too. Then players can just fly one ship but wear the skin of their favourite ship.
There really should be T5 versions of these. There are T5 versions of all the other weirdness Cryptic has excreted and called Star Trek. Seriously some of this stuff looks more Star Wars then Star Trek, I suspect our next surpise enemy faction will be the Ewoks.