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anticlonusanticlonus Member Posts: 0 Arc User
edited February 2014 in The Academy
Title says it all.

I have a subscription, but the "asset" page says I have a 10 million EC cap. What gives? Is it a UI bug? or is something else going on? The sub ad page says limit should be 1 billion cap for subs.

Sittin at about 9.5 mil, concerned about the limit.
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  • crash490rcrash490r Member Posts: 88 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    anticlonus wrote: »
    Title says it all.

    I have a subscription, but the "asset" page says I have a 10 million EC cap. What gives? Is it a UI bug? or is something else going on? The sub ad page says limit should be 1 billion cap for subs.

    Sittin at about 9.5 mil, concerned about the limit.

    As a sub you should have the 1 bil limit. I'd say sell something for 550k and see if you go to 10,050,000 or stay at 10,000,000.

    Worst case scenario, you lose 50k. But you find out either way, and if you do lose the 50k you can send in a ticket.
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  • rickdias5500rickdias5500 Member Posts: 95 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Like most things in life you have to pay for what you want. Just because you paid dose not mean you are not going to pay again and again for something you want. 300 USD is just the start. STO IS a money making venture. Welcome to Star Trek Online , now pay the man.

    Also if you do not have copy of the"Rules of Acquisition" , get it , read it , learn it , live by it.

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  • baudlbaudl Member Posts: 4,060 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    once the subscription runs out, you are back to 10 million cap. i think all EC over 10 million is lost. So if you intend to suspend your subscription next month or at some point in the future, you'll need to get the EC cap increase anyway.
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  • admrenlarreckadmrenlarreck Member Posts: 2,041 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    baudl wrote: »
    once the subscription runs out, you are back to 10 million cap. i think all EC over 10 million is lost. So if you intend to suspend your subscription next month or at some point in the future, you'll need to get the EC cap increase anyway.

    Ec over 10 million is not lost if you go back to a non paid account. you just can no longer earn any ec until it drops below the 10 million.
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  • dracounguisdracounguis Member Posts: 5,358 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Ec over 10 million is not lost if you go back to a non paid account. you just can no longer earn any ec until it drops below the 10 million.

    Eh? :confused:

    So if he had 20M then stopped paying and now it says 10M and spends 1M, he'll still have 10M? Like the overflow inventory bag? If not, then that other 10M is lost.
  • admrenlarreckadmrenlarreck Member Posts: 2,041 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Eh? :confused:

    So if he had 20M then stopped paying and now it says 10M and spends 1M, he'll still have 10M? Like the overflow inventory bag? If not, then that other 10M is lost.

    Nope if he has 20 million in the bank then goes back to F2P he has 20 million in the bank if he spends 1 million he now has 19 million. He just can not GAIN any more ec. So in that example he has 20 million and goes back to F2P. but gets a console that he wants to sell for 500,000ec, he puts it on the exchange at 500000, it sells but he loses that ec cause he no longer has the increased ec cap. He still has 20 million but until he spends 10000001 ec he can not gain any more and then he would only gain the 1ec.
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  • doffingcomradedoffingcomrade Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    anticlonus wrote: »
    Title says it all.

    I have a subscription, but the "asset" page says I have a 10 million EC cap. What gives? Is it a UI bug? or is something else going on? The sub ad page says limit should be 1 billion cap for subs.

    Sittin at about 9.5 mil, concerned about the limit.
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  • dracounguisdracounguis Member Posts: 5,358 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Nope if he has 20 million in the bank then goes back to F2P he has 20 million in the bank if he spends 1 million he now has 19 million. He just can not GAIN any more ec. So in that example he has 20 million and goes back to F2P. but gets a console that he wants to sell for 500,000ec, he puts it on the exchange at 500000, it sells but he loses that ec cause he no longer has the increased ec cap. He still has 20 million but until he spends 10000001 ec he can not gain any more and then he would only gain the 1ec.

    So his extra 10M is held ransom to his further payment. If he never pays it's gone. Interesting mechanic.
  • tangolighttangolight Member Posts: 777 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    So his extra 10M is held ransom to his further payment. If he never pays it's gone. Interesting mechanic.

    It's not held in ransom. He can still buy a 20M item off the exchange. He just can't gain any additional EC if he's at or over 10 million already.
  • decroniadecronia Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    As tangolight has said it is not held in ransom he can spend away and the amount will be taken from the 20 mil total. Once you drop below 10mil then you can start earning them again, until then any EC earned is lost forever.

    OP if this is your first sub it can take a little while to go through the clearing process that is there as a fraud prevention. Check with your bank and see if the payment has gone through or if it is being held up for some reason.

    If you go back to f2p, then convert enough dil for 500 zen and then buy the EC limit unlock. It's worth it.
  • dareaudareau Member Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Nope if he has 20 million in the bank then goes back to F2P he has 20 million in the bank if he spends 1 million he now has 19 million. He just can not GAIN any more ec. So in that example he has 20 million and goes back to F2P. but gets a console that he wants to sell for 500,000ec, he puts it on the exchange at 500000, it sells but he loses that ec cause he no longer has the increased ec cap. He still has 20 million but until he spends 10000001 ec he can not gain any more and then he would only gain the 1ec.

    Actually, I think there's some coding on the exchange that prevents players from selling an item for more than their cap, if not preventing them from selling an item that would prevent them from capping in the first place...

    To wit: If I was a F2P without the EC expansion, I could not list an item on the exchange for more than 10 mil, as that is my cap. If I was a F2P with the EC expansion, then I could sell stuff for tons and tons of money. Said coding was implemented to prevent people from losing money on their sale(s).

    Now, I'm not sure if it also lets him sell past his current cap. To wit, OP is at 9.5 mil. There might be coding that prevents him from selling an item for more than 500,000 - as that's the amount that will have him "cap out" and lose the "excess" from the sale.
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  • somebobsomebob Member Posts: 556 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    dareau wrote: »
    Now, I'm not sure if it also lets him sell past his current cap. To wit, OP is at 9.5 mil. There might be coding that prevents him from selling an item for more than 500,000 - as that's the amount that will have him "cap out" and lose the "excess" from the sale.

    AFAIK, no, there is no such security feature. It'll happily let you exceed your money cap (and have it go poof) no matter how you're getting the money (vendor or the AH).
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  • tangolighttangolight Member Posts: 777 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    somebob wrote: »
    AFAIK, no, there is no such security feature. It'll happily let you exceed your money cap (and have it go poof) no matter how you're getting the money (vendor or the AH).

    That's correct. I've seen too many threads of people complaining they sold something for millions of EC, and losing most or all of it because they were at cap.
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