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mazinger2010
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Just ran Mirror universe with 2 friends of mine. We que up for this any chance we get as I'm running a fairly geared character this gives us a chance to run something quick, easy, and fun with a lot of explosions. One of those friends went AFK for a moment, came back, and was hit with a 2 hour AFK penalty. This is completely ridiculous. I could understand a 20 minute penalty but this was just silly.
I purchased my lifetime membership a few months ago because I intended to invest time in this game PLAYING WITH MY FRIENDS. This however limits that capability as if they have anything come up our time gets robbed not just by a reasonable penalty marker but by a 2 hour long delay.
I really wish there was a refund department at this phase, seriously considering just leaving the game all together. I'm guessing this carries no weight with cryptic as they already have my money but I will NEVER suggest to anyone they purchase anything in this game so long as such an outrageous and unfair penalty exists. After all, the penalty in other online games is far lower or well balanced.
I get having a penalty, but this is just ridiculous. It isn't that hard to code the penalty to be 20 minutes from the time they leave the map for an AFK penalty.
Sincerely Your's
Disgruntled Paying Player
I purchased my lifetime membership a few months ago because I intended to invest time in this game PLAYING WITH MY FRIENDS. This however limits that capability as if they have anything come up our time gets robbed not just by a reasonable penalty marker but by a 2 hour long delay.
I really wish there was a refund department at this phase, seriously considering just leaving the game all together. I'm guessing this carries no weight with cryptic as they already have my money but I will NEVER suggest to anyone they purchase anything in this game so long as such an outrageous and unfair penalty exists. After all, the penalty in other online games is far lower or well balanced.
I get having a penalty, but this is just ridiculous. It isn't that hard to code the penalty to be 20 minutes from the time they leave the map for an AFK penalty.
Sincerely Your's
Disgruntled Paying Player
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There's another prestigious MMO that only gives a 30 minute AFK/team drop penalty on a PVP or PVE instance. It's paid though, but I see here that there's paid lifetime subs so in my opinion it should be fixed, right?
btw... I AM that friend. Bucker off if you do not have something constructive to say instead of being a troll, love.
Exactly. The AFK penalty is working as intended. It's a shame your friend got hit with one, but I don't think Cryptic is gonna lower punishment time for that. Especially since players have been griping because of said AFKers. We got a hour punishment for Leavers who run away from "bad' STFs and we got a two hour punishment who try to AFK.
If your friend had something big to do that required needing to be AFK, then perhaps you should have waited.
How about first you level with us and tell us precisely how long the "moment" your friend went AFK for was?
Then do bear in mind that this (fair and generous, in my opinion) penalty is for wasting the time of every single person in a multi-player mission whose time is wasted and fun interfered with when one player decides it's all about them.
Nope, don't believe your friend left for anything most rational people would call a "moment," and I think they got precisely the harsh heads-up they deserved.
(And making the fuss about being LTS and signing about how you're a high and mighty "paying player," I guarantee, did you no favors in this discussion- but it did let the rest of us know what we're dealing with.)
That's the entire point. It's intended to be noticed, not to just be a minor inconvenience. Your angst is merely proof that it's doing precisely what it's supposed to do.
and? whats your point?
if you dont like it go away, otherwise accept the fact that the community wanted an afk feature and got it, you and your friend should of planned your run more carefully. if i went afk for a moment and got a 2 hour penalty i wouldnt care, there are other games to play outside sto for 2 hours and it would of been my own silly fault for allowing it in the first place. its fair that an afker wont be taking up valuable spots on an stf let alone leeching off other players hard worked for rewards.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
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Bet you learned not to go AFK again, din't ya love? :P
Still, tell me this, why is the punishment for AFKing harsher than for leaving a match? Further why such a harsh punishment on an event that is considerably easy to run?
To tell you the truth, I would have been fine getting the two hour ban. Why? BECAUSE I DESERVED IT! The AFK ban prevents leachers and the like from ruining the game. Maybe two hours is a bit much, but it should be at least one hour. The same as the leaver penalty.
I'm not even going to bother commenting on your self-entitlement.
Support 90 degree arc limitation on BFaW! Save our ships from looking like flying disco balls of dumb!
Because it is meant to be a huge inconvenience to the people who blatantly AFK just so they can get their marks/dil and not have to lift a finger. As you said, 2 hours is a substantial bit of downtime, so it will affect those types fairly.
What is there to ask? Afk timer is 15 minutes. His friend's "moment" has to be longer than 15 minutes.
Even an Elite STF don't take much longer than 15 minutes. For a Mirror run to last longer than that, it means the team fell apart. One afker will hardly kill a mirror run, it's not exactly hard. It's probably all 3 of his dutchbag group afked, putting the stiff on 2 puggers unfortunately enough to get matched with them.
If anything, 2 hours is too light. They should not be able to do this to another 2 poor puggers again for the day.;)
Also the timer isn't set to 15 minutes. Our mirror run didn't last a full 5. Do some research, the AFK system is based on DPS and possibly damage healed (no one is too sure on that).
I took the time to look around a bit before I got on here to complain. My issue is the duration of penalty in culmination with the nature of the penalty. If it was a 15 minute timer I would be far less willing to voice my concerns. Go ahead though and do your own research on it.
There is a huge difference between leaving early and AFKing. Both are douchebaggy moves, but being afk in a match means EVERYONE else is doing the work for that person. They reap the rewards without lifting a finger, that's hardly fair for anyone. I'd rather someone leave than make me have to do the work for them, and they still get paid for it.
Aye. But given the QQ about 2 hours, there'd be rioting in the streets from the time-impaired.
Maybe if you realize it's supposed to be a penalty, or punishment, and not a slap-on-the-wrist minor inconvenience, you'll see why the only people who feel sorry for you and your friend are...you and your friend.
Oh- and 15 minutes =/= "a moment"
Again, if it were set for a 15 minute trigger, with a penalty of 1hr that would be fine and comparable. After all if someone leaves the match your in the same boat as if they AFK.
You don't anymore BECAUSE this system is in place. Before, when it wasn't, people did it ALL the time. Which is why there is now a 2 hour penalty
You got the XP because that is awarded as the mission progresses, not in a lump sum at the end of the match
I will call cryptic ebil if you want
so basically you are an inconsiderate jerk who thinks going afk in any sort of scenario is acceptable. all you had to do was close the damn game so you would onto incur a penalty AND open a slot for another person in queue.. but noo, it's all about YOU isn't it. are you one of the jerks who just run point to pint in Dyson to get credit for captures you don't participate in?
as far as leaving a match, stuff happens. I don't really do long term events because our comcast connection randomly brainfarts and we lose connectivity. you wanna know how annoying it is to get the damn borg command ship to 5% and then poof! you get the dreaded disconnect from the server message?
Annemarie, condescension will get you nowhere. Also exiting the game/match would still incur the penalty to my understanding. If I'm incorrect please correct me on this.
That was the AFK penalty at work, stripping the AFKer of rewards. Working as intended, love.
It'll get you farther than pounding your chest about being a paying customer and demanding refunds.
They can use that time to think if its worth going for that soda or what not next time.
If your going to queue for something get your s*** together before you queue
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It would incur a leaver penalty as opposed to an AFK penalty.
It depends on what point you leave a match.
If you are the first or second to leave and it's before 15 mins since it started, you will get a 1 hour penalty
If you are the third to fifth player to leave before 15 mins, you will not get a penalty
If you are marked as AFK (no moving, buffing, creating damage to NPC opponents), you get a 2 hour penalty
If you private a match, you do NOT get a leaver penalty, but you can get a afk penalty from what I understand ( I have not ever seen anyone AFK in a private match, mostly cause the players I form private matches with aren't douchebags)
Working As Intended! WOO.
NOT the end of the world. I am a Lifetime who has spent thousands on Zen for things to play with. While I complain about MANY things, this is NOT one of them.