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Fleet tactical consoles on tribble

playhard88playhard88 Member Posts: 733 Arc User
edited October 2013 in PvP Gameplay
Someone have screenshots of this goods?
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  • captainednacaptainedna Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    I want to see them to .

    I'd hate to have to sell my Mk XII purples to a vendor.Normaly in normal games (as in games where the goal is to have fun not reputation systems) when some new shets are added you only have to upgrade your old stuffs to the new version.Since STO is made to be insulting for those who spend money you always have to buy new stuffs ...no upgrade option.
  • timezargtimezarg Member Posts: 1,268
    edited October 2013
    Gah. I was hoping they would decide to not release the things. Bye-bye tactical console market on Exchange. Though I suppose it depends on what exactly they end up releasing. SIIIIIGH :(
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  • lterlter Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    My guess was, at least energy type consoles with the usual fleet extra bonus (Mk13ish), PLUS some tactical skill modifiers (targeting systems, weps training and such). Can't wait to see if I won a pizza.
  • sgtstarfallsgtstarfall Member Posts: 205 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    timezarg wrote: »
    Gah. I was hoping they would decide to not release the things. Bye-bye tactical console market on Exchange. Though I suppose it depends on what exactly they end up releasing. SIIIIIGH :(

    So much for farming MkXII VR Tact consoles...looks like the prices of tact consoles is gonna go way down.... :(
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  • twamtwam Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Finally time to upgrade those green mk xi's, I say.
  • khayuungkhayuung Member Posts: 1,877 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Hell yes, the very thing I need to break free from player-controlled economic tyranny! /sarcasm

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  • macroniusmacronius Member Posts: 2,526
    edited October 2013
    So no more getting excited about MK XI purple disruptor inductors dropping in PvE ... and then selling them for 5-6 million. GG Cryptic <facepalm>
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  • smokeybacon90smokeybacon90 Member Posts: 2,252 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    No screenies available yet because the tribble holding projects run at normal speed. In a few days one of the fleets should be able to see the consoles inside the holding.
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  • westx211westx211 Member Posts: 42,367 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Well finally the tyranny of doucebags who decided that tac consoles should be worth exorbitant amounts may be over and it will be glorious. I'm glad this is happening as the only people who are harmed by it are the aforementioned douchebags.
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  • smokeybacon90smokeybacon90 Member Posts: 2,252 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    I spoke too soon, this tac console screenie from reddit, linked by a dev:

    http://i.imgur.com/GbEF8sx.png

    Interesting, definitely NOT what I or likely many of us were expecting.
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  • westx211westx211 Member Posts: 42,367 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Well guess its back to the old grind cause if its just weapon type then I have no interest in them whatsoever as even 8% crit sev can't make me use a console that NOONE uses for a reason.


    There may still be other types but until a fleet actual gets the whole deal we don't know.
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  • baudlbaudl Member Posts: 4,060 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    hmm, since i only have the rare MK XI with 26,2% i think i'm getting them.
    0,7% for 8% crtD is an upgrade i think.
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  • rmy1081rmy1081 Member Posts: 2,840 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    smokeybacon90 wrote: »
    I spoke too soon, this tac console screenie from reddit, linked by a dev:

    http://i.imgur.com/GbEF8sx.png

    Interesting, definitely NOT what I or likely many of us were expecting.

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  • antoniosalieriantoniosalieri Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Well based on those numbers though... there may well be Weapon type ones with more dmg + the crtd.

    Creep Creep Creep Creep. lol

    I hope the borg are getting a few of these slotted themselves.
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    smokeybacon90 wrote: »
    I spoke too soon, this tac console screenie from reddit, linked by a dev:

    http://i.imgur.com/GbEF8sx.png

    Interesting, definitely NOT what I or likely many of us were expecting.

    That ties into what folks had been saying somewhere else...

    "Exploiter" = +CrtD
    "Locator" = +CrtH

    BeamD, CannonD, TorpD/MineD (not sure on the last - wasn't really paying attention to the conversation)...but basically it being a case of the generic Tac Consoles with either +CrtD or +CrtH.

    Giving up 4.5% base damage for 8% CrtD though...should prove to be a boost. Folks going to be breaking out the Rainbows!
  • z3ndor99z3ndor99 Member Posts: 1,391 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Cruiser capts with one new console and nukara console ( beam acc ) could get a nice boost, escort capts won't even bother.
  • captainednacaptainedna Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    macronius wrote: »
    So no more getting excited about MK XI purple disruptor inductors dropping in PvE ... and then selling them for 5-6 million. GG Cryptic <facepalm>

    lol they are against a free ingame economy.You are not allowed to trade ,pvp or chat.The only thing you are allowed to do is kill borg npcs .Are ec useless yet ? :rolleyes:
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    virusdancer wrote: »
    Giving up 4.5% base damage for 8% CrtD though...should prove to be a boost. Folks going to be breaking out the Rainbows!

    To elaborate on that...

    Basic Dude (9 Weapons Training, 9 Energy Weapons, 4x VR Mk XII +30% Consoles, 125 Weapon Power, with a VR Mk XII Beam Array...say standard 50% CrtD)

    1117.1 Damage, 1675.65 CRIT! Damage

    Same Dude w/4x of those UR Mk XII +25.5% Dmg/+8% CrtD

    1072.1 Damage, 1951.222 CRIT! Damage

    -45 Damage, +275.572 CRIT! Damage

    That's just a basic example.

    Another Dude (9 Weapons Training, 9 Energy Weapons, 4x VR Mk XII +30% Consoles, 125 Weapon Power, VR Mk XII Beam Array, Omega Weapon Training, 125 Aux Power Config Offense, Borg Consoles, 0Point Console, Tachyo Console, 9 Energy Weapon Specialization, Bioneural Console, APA3, APO3, EPtW1, a +7.6% set bonus...I know I'm forgetting stuff, but that's good enough for now)

    2370.035 Damage, 6090.98995 CRIT! Damage

    Same Dude w/4x of those UR Mk XII +25.5% Dmg/+8% CrtD

    2286.785 Damage, 6608.80865 CRIT! Damage

    -83.25 Damage, +517.8187 CRIT! Damage

    So like I said, I know I'm forgetting stuff there - but for somebody that feels they've got a healthy amount of +CrtH...those +CrtD generics will give them more than the normal specifics. For those that want more CrtH, yeah - CrtH is better than Dmg...they'll be better too.

    The death of the specifics - the rise of the generics...

    ...instead of making fun of folks running rainbow builds, people will make fun of folks not running rainbow builds. ;)
  • bpharmabpharma Member Posts: 2,022
    edited October 2013
    You also have to remember not everyone wastes their ec on mk XII v.rare tactical consoles. For me I stick with mk XI rare or v.rare if they drop when running starbase 24 or gorn minefield etc. for me those will be a huge boost, especially to my rommy who has silly levels of CrtH.

    Sure it's a 1-5% of base damage loss but oh well. Better than them being energy/projectile weapon specific and making that market worthless.
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  • newromulan1newromulan1 Member Posts: 2,229
    edited October 2013
    virusdancer wrote: »
    That ties into what folks had been saying somewhere else...

    "Exploiter" = +CrtD
    "Locator" = +CrtH

    BeamD, CannonD, TorpD/MineD (not sure on the last - wasn't really paying attention to the conversation)...but basically it being a case of the generic Tac Consoles with either +CrtD or +CrtH.

    Giving up 4.5% base damage for 8% CrtD though...should prove to be a boost. Folks going to be breaking out the Rainbows!

    I am totally going to load out a Fleet Excel with 8 beams - each one a different color

    plasma/anti/polaron/phaser

    disruptor/tetryon/blue phaser/spiral wave

    put Marion in there + nadion + weapons command + 2x Aux 2 bat

    I should be able to keep this light show going FULL time!! It will be like a disco ball in space!!:D
  • playhard88playhard88 Member Posts: 733 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    rainbow crusier time
    >> Division Hispana <<
    John Sheridan@playhard88 - FED Tactical
    Vin Naftero@playhard88 - FED Sciencie
    K'tan@playhard88 - KDF Tactical
    Argento@playhard88 - RRF Tactical (FED)
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    playhard88 wrote: »
    rainbow crusier time

    Rainbows and Skittles for all...not just Cruisers. ;)
  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    how clueless can they be, generic beam, cannon and knetic consoles only? this has to be a joke, those are garbage. the sci consoles were good, the eng consoles are amazing, and the tac consoles trash? what the hell are they thinking?

    the fleet tac consoels should have been specific energy or torp type tac consoles, that came with ether a +all knetic or +all energy. torps plus energy weapons should not be a rainbow, an that would have helped make that not the case. oh whatever, torps arent even usable anymore anyway, and even unbuffed they do plenty of damage. i would take a damage nerf to them along with a usefulness against shields buff.


    seeing as they dont even get how badly torps suck, these tac consoles should have been the specific energy or knetic types + ether targeting/attack patterns/maneuvers/or stealth
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  • mimey2mimey2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    I admit, I never expected generic consoles of all things. I was totally expecting energy/torp specific consoles.
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  • newromulan1newromulan1 Member Posts: 2,229
    edited October 2013
    virusdancer wrote: »
    Rainbows and Skittles for all...not just Cruisers. ;)

    I will get a few people together - rename the fleet "That 70's Show"(tm)

    5 Fleet excel AtB FAW beam boats

    all engineers - all loaded with 8 different beam colors

    Marion+DEM+batt+Nadion+ Cruiser command+FAW+3 copies each of inspirational leader traits

    all in a nice circle with TSS from 1 to the next and 8x5 = 40 rainbow beams firing full time!!

    Just working on the ship names:

    "Burn Baby Burn... Disco inferno"

    "Staying Alive"

    "Relight My Fire"

    "Ain't Nothing going to keep me from you"

    "Ring my Bell"

    All that is left is to stick dinosaurs with Frickin' lasers on their heads to various points on the hull as a dino point defense system!!

    Everything Star Trek was ment to be!!
  • antoniosalieriantoniosalieri Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    mimey2 wrote: »
    I admit, I never expected generic consoles of all things. I was totally expecting energy/torp specific consoles.

    It will change when they realize they don't sell.

    Then again... perhaps all they really care about is making sure the pve kids can FAW DEM Tech doff the borg to death all day.
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  • newromulan1newromulan1 Member Posts: 2,229
    edited October 2013
    antoniosalieri wrote: »
    It will change when they realize they don't sell.

    Then again... perhaps all they really care about is making sure the pve kids can FAW DEM Tech doff the borg to death all day.

    That or when the consoles come out they are buffed to 28%!!:eek::eek::eek:
  • bareelbareel Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    I thought they didn't like how spikey the game can be, then they turn around and add more critD. Brilliant!
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  • ussultimatumussultimatum Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    dontdrunkimshoot wrote: »
    how clueless can they be, generic beam, cannon and knetic consoles only? this has to be a joke, those are garbage. the sci consoles were good, the eng consoles are amazing, and the tac consoles trash? what the hell are they thinking?


    They are consistently bi-polar in their design.

    They are basically afraid to give us MK XII consoles, which are a total of 2% improvement or so vs. MK XI purples but they give us things like AMP which is massively more powerful.


    They continually tell us they are trying to tone down the extremes and then they add consoles that lower standard (pressure) damage but increases burst (by a moderate amount, since slotting 5x "generic" fleets means you lose an entire Tac console which is a boost to your base).


    They told us there is too much power available in the system, they give us Elite Fleet Warp Cores.
  • topsettopset Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    dontdrunkimshoot wrote: »
    how clueless can they be, generic beam, cannon and knetic consoles only? this has to be a joke, those are garbage. the sci consoles were good, the eng consoles are amazing, and the tac consoles trash? what the hell are they thinking?

    You honestly didn't see this coming?

    And they're not "trash" - they're going to perform much better than XI purple energy-specific consoles if you've got lots of CrtH. Rommies will love them for sure.

    Not sure about compared to XII purples as I can't be bothered to do any maths on it, I'll let others do it - but I get the feeling they're going to be pretty close to par once CrtH gets over x% (which will be doable with roms)
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