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praxi5praxi5 Member Posts: 1,562 Arc User
edited October 2013 in PvP Gameplay
Remember how Tachyon Beam is useless? Remember how everyone said that adding a -ShieldRes component would make it useful and help with power creep?

Well now it's in the C Store on the Avenger.

Because lol, TRIBBLE Science and the players.
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  • maicake716maicake716 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    praxi5 wrote: »
    Remember how Tachyon Beam is useless? Remember how everyone said that adding a -ShieldRes component would make it useful and help with power creep?

    Well now it's in the C Store on the Avenger.

    Because lol, TRIBBLE Science and the players.

    hmm? whatb you talkin bout? i thought the thingy it had was atorp?
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  • rmy1081rmy1081 Member Posts: 2,840 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    praxi5 wrote: »
    Remember how Tachyon Beam is useless? Remember how everyone said that adding a -ShieldRes component would make it useful and help with power creep?

    Well now it's in the C Store on the Avenger.

    Because lol, TRIBBLE Science and the players.

    Unless I totally misread it (which is totally possible), I thought the avenger thing was a torpedo that shot beams and other torpedoes out of it, but yeah, a lot of consoles should be science powers.
  • khayuungkhayuung Member Posts: 1,877 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Yes, it can fire a Tachyon beam at 50 power on top another ship...

    ...its still as pathetic as, or even half MORE pathetic, on another ship without 256 FlwCs...

    Have 256 FlwCs and you'll be stripping shields like a tentacle monster. That is the advantage science vessels have over the little VATA torp.

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  • antoniosalieriantoniosalieri Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    When the tachyon beam firing one lands on a target it reduces shield resists.
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  • khayuungkhayuung Member Posts: 1,877 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    antoniosalieri wrote: »
    When the tachyon beam firing one lands on a target it reduces shield resists.

    Wait what, I thot it was a normal tachyon beam from the VATA, fired when under the influence of SFM?

    It'll depend on how big the -resist is then...

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  • antoniosalieriantoniosalieri Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    khayuung wrote: »
    Wait what, I thot it was a normal tachyon beam from the VATA, fired when under the influence of SFM?

    It'll depend on how big the -resist is then...

    When the probe thing hits it effects shield resistance.

    "
    While the Shield Frequency Modulation cruiser command is active, the V.A.T.A. will fire a pair Tachyon Armament Projectiles. These projectiles fire Tachyon beams at a nearby target every second that damage the target's shield facings. Upon impact, the Tachyon Armament Projectiles will detonate, dealing high kinetic damage and high shield damage in a 1.5 km radius. Foes affected by the blast will also have their shield hardness reduced for a short time.
    "
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  • rmy1081rmy1081 Member Posts: 2,840 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    antoniosalieri wrote: »
    When the tachyon beam firing one lands on a target it reduces shield resists.

    oh...well then, I want our tach beam to do the same.

    maybe something like 5% for 1, 10% for 2, and 15% for 3 would be nice.
  • khayuungkhayuung Member Posts: 1,877 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    antoniosalieri wrote: »
    When the probe thing hits it effects shield resistance.

    "
    While the Shield Frequency Modulation cruiser command is active, the V.A.T.A. will fire a pair Tachyon Armament Projectiles. These projectiles fire Tachyon beams at a nearby target every second that damage the target's shield facings. Upon impact, the Tachyon Armament Projectiles will detonate, dealing high kinetic damage and high shield damage in a 1.5 km radius. Foes affected by the blast will also have their shield hardness reduced for a short time.
    "

    Oh, when the torp IMPACTS it reduces shield resist of everything in the blast wave. For a moment there I thot it was firing special tachyon beams.

    I can live with that.

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  • renimaltrenimalt Member Posts: 219 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    antoniosalieri wrote: »
    When the probe thing hits it effects shield resistance.

    "
    While the Shield Frequency Modulation cruiser command is active, the V.A.T.A. will fire a pair Tachyon Armament Projectiles. These projectiles fire Tachyon beams at a nearby target every second that damage the target's shield facings. Upon impact, the Tachyon Armament Projectiles will detonate, dealing high kinetic damage and high shield damage in a 1.5 km radius. Foes affected by the blast will also have their shield hardness reduced for a short time.
    "

    I might be reading it wrong, but that sounds like the -ShieldRes occur only when the "armaments" reach their target and detonate; the -ShieldRes doesn't occur when the tachyon beams are firing. It sounds like they took tachyon mines and made them into torps that also shot regular tachyon beams at targets.

    (Also, the wording is "a" nearby target; given how spam-filled matches are today, it might just hit a pet with its tachyon beam instead of a player.)
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  • antoniosalieriantoniosalieri Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Yes its a -resist on the probe explosion like a mine.

    Still I would very much like to see tach beam changed to effect shield resistance.

    I would love a -resist that increases over the duration... then people can't complain break the beam and your ok.

    Something like 2% at start up to -15 over the duration... and the different levels of the beam could ramp up the -resist faster.
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  • maicake716maicake716 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    antoniosalieri wrote: »
    Yes its a -resist on the probe explosion like a mine.

    Still I would very much like to see tach beam changed to effect shield resistance.

    I would love a -resist that increases over the duration... then people can't complain break the beam and your ok.

    Something like 2% at start up to -15 over the duration... and the different levels of the beam could ramp up the -resist faster.

    Except with how easy it is to break the tachyon beams lock.

    Otherwise a fine idea.
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  • rudiefix1rudiefix1 Member Posts: 420
    edited October 2013
    another question is if the vata can be equiped on other ships. however, reading about the cruiser commands and corresponding vata mode, it will be probably bound to the avenger, or maybe other cruisers. If it can be equiped on other ships, like science vessels, it would have only the default (micro quantum torps) since they lack cruiser commands. So no use of flowcaps --> yes sci nerf
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  • antoniosalieriantoniosalieri Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    maicake716 wrote: »
    Except with how easy it is to break the tachyon beams lock.

    Otherwise a fine idea.

    It would have to not be a super easy spam every 45s for 15s of debuff or something stupid.

    At least ramping up yes it would be possible to save yourself... and not every escort in the game would be running Tachyon beam 1s. :)

    The tier 4 placate is the major bane of the skill though thats for sure... I would be all over them removing that stupid tier 4. it serves no purpose in pve and in pvp its pretty much game breaking.
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    rudiefix1 wrote: »
    another question is if the vata can be equiped on other ships. however, reading about the cruiser commands and corresponding vata mode, it will be probably bound to the avenger, or maybe other cruisers. If it can be equiped on other ships, like science vessels, it would have only the default (micro quantum torps) since they lack cruiser commands. So no use of flowcaps --> yes sci nerf

    Only the Avenger and Fleet Avenger...
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