test content
What is the Arc Client?
Install Arc

What ship should I get now?

crypt1c1crypt1c1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
edited October 2013 in Federation Discussion
Ive grinded enough dilithium to be able to purchase a C-store ship, and now the question is which one?

I was originally going for either the regent because I like the way it looks and because of the 180 torp, Or an Odyssey. Now with the Avenger coming tomorrow my decision just got that much more difficult.

Now before you ask I only do PVE and really never PVP except when a friends challenges me which is very rare.

Now looking over what each ship comes with as far as consoles go the regent has the nice 180 degree torpedo which would be very helpful when broadsiding.

The Oddys either comes with the Aquarius, saucer sep, or work bees.

Now Ive seen some people on the forums say the Aquarius is almost useless and not really worth getting the tac oddy. My friend owns the 3 pack and said the saucer sep is by far the best console because it increases your turn, and he said the work bees are just a meh heal.

Now comes the Avenger. With its stats it leads me to think it can out shine the Regent or the Oddy if used properly. The option of equipping dual heavies is also very nice, but that goes into something in it self. If I were to get the Avenger should I get the C-store version or the Fleet version. Would the V.A.T.A. console be worth it or should I just go straight for the fleet version and forget the console?

Also one more thing, im also wanting my ship to be unlocked account wide, and I know the Oddy is but im not sure about the Regent or the Avenger.....Please give me some feedback and help me decide what a good ship would be for me.
Post edited by crypt1c1 on

Comments

  • marshalericdavidmarshalericdavid Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    All C-Store ships are account wide I do not see that changing. You can get the C-Store Vengeance and then get a discount on Fleet Modules for the fleet version.
  • reginamala78reginamala78 Member Posts: 4,593 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    The Avenger looks to be pretty powerful, and just as a straight-up DPS machine will probably be a better choice. Odyssey is much more versatile and makes a much better tank and healer, but really works best if you get the whole three pack (tac chassis with sci and eng consoles). Depends on your goal, numbers or flexibility.
  • captiandata1captiandata1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    any ships bought off the cstore are account wide.

    have you flown either the ambassador class or the excelsior class which are about the same in terms of fire power and they both have more hall then the new avenger class


    if you like a starfleet cruiser that can turn like the tier 1 and tier conni the go with the avenger class.
    the cstore avenger also comes with the vata console and 5 forward weapon and 3 aft.

    i am sure that the regent is a good ship. i have not bought the regent mostly because i like the look of the regent but i am not a fan of the sovy. also paying $25 is a lot just for the waqt.

    the oddy is best with whole 3 oddy pack but that is goign to cost you $50 or 5000 cpoints also in the last few months the oddy did get a minor upgrade to its console stats to be more better then at launch of the oddy ships.

    i have me romi set up in her semitar with the cutting beam front, 3 turrets in the aft, i been using single cannon front for 4 slots for over a month. the semitar bas a base turn of 7 dgrees per second and with 2 of semitar's consoles the turm rate is 9 degrees per second. the new avenger class already comes with the base turn rate of 9 degrees per second without need 2 extra console to be added. the vata system looks to be fun to use and more fun to use with the cruiser command controls
  • crypt1c1crypt1c1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    any ships bought off the cstore are account wide.

    have you flown either the ambassador class or the excelsior class which are about the same in terms of fire power and they both have more hall then the new avenger class


    if you like a starfleet cruiser that can turn like the tier 1 and tier conni the go with the avenger class.
    the cstore avenger also comes with the vata console and 5 forward weapon and 3 aft.

    i am sure that the regent is a good ship. i have not bought the regent mostly because i like the look of the regent but i am not a fan of the sovy. also paying $25 is a lot just for the waqt.

    the oddy is best with whole 3 oddy pack but that is goign to cost you $50 or 5000 cpoints also in the last few months the oddy did get a minor upgrade to its console stats to be more better then at launch of the oddy ships.

    i have me romi set up in her semitar with the cutting beam front, 3 turrets in the aft, i been using single cannon front for 4 slots for over a month. the semitar bas a base turn of 7 dgrees per second and with 2 of semitar's consoles the turm rate is 9 degrees per second. the new avenger class already comes with the base turn rate of 9 degrees per second without need 2 extra console to be added. the vata system looks to be fun to use and more fun to use with the cruiser command controls

    Yeah right now my main ship is the Ambassador retrofit from the 3rd anniversary, and she flies pretty good, im just looking for something more now.
  • admiralq1732admiralq1732 Member Posts: 1,561 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    can't go wrong with Excel retrofit.
  • captiandata1captiandata1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    the avenger sounds like the perfect dps cruiser for you if you can live with a bit less hall
  • captiandata1captiandata1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    at least the new avenger class has more hall then the nebula class
  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Since you said that you primarily consider PvE, I'll give you the usuall suggestion I give when someone asks this question on the forum - go with the ship that looks best to you.
    All of the ships you mentioned are verry good at PvE and you'd be better off looking at something you like all that time you're going to play with that ship. :)

    Now with that taken into consideration another question would be - do you intend to get the fleet version of the ship after you get the C-Store one?
    Because if you don't - you'll be on the skinny side with the Avenger hull, while the Odyssey is already a fleet quality ship with 10 consoles and fleet stats.
    If you do intend of upgrading to a fleet version (unless you choose an Oddy) then it boils down to looks again. Because the fleet stats are more or less similar and pretty solid for all of these, I consider even the fleet Avenger at 41.250 as quite solid. And also gameplay. Do you prefer flying your ship frontal and pointing it at the enemies or you, like myself, prefer the wide firing arc of beam arrays. Cause if you prefer beams, maybe your better off with a Regent than Avenger, due to higher hull. Or the Oddy for added versatility in that case.

    But personally for me looks>>>all. If a look of a ship grows on me, I'm using it regardless of stats. For PvE any ship can be tweaked to be very usefull with a lot of love and dedication (read grind:P).
    HQroeLu.jpg
  • milesllewellynmilesllewellyn Member Posts: 56 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    shpoks wrote: »
    Since you said that you primarily consider PvE, I'll give you the usuall suggestion I give when someone asks this question on the forum - go with the ship that looks best to you.
    All of the ships you mentioned are verry good at PvE and you'd be better off looking at something you like all that time you're going to play with that ship. :)

    Now with that taken into consideration another question would be - do you intend to get the fleet version of the ship after you get the C-Store one?
    Because if you don't - you'll be on the skinny side with the Avenger hull, while the Odyssey is already a fleet quality ship with 10 consoles and fleet stats.
    If you do intend of upgrading to a fleet version (unless you choose an Oddy) then it boils down to looks again. Because the fleet stats are more or less similar and pretty solid for all of these, I consider even the fleet Avenger at 41.250 as quite solid. And also gameplay. Do you prefer flying your ship frontal and pointing it at the enemies or you, like myself, prefer the wide firing arc of beam arrays. Cause if you prefer beams, maybe your better off with a Regent than Avenger, due to higher hull. Or the Oddy for added versatility in that case.

    But personally for me looks>>>all. If a look of a ship grows on me, I'm using it regardless of stats. For PvE any ship can be tweaked to be very usefull with a lot of love and dedication (read grind:P).

    All very good advice.
  • edited October 2013
    This content has been removed.
  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    skollulfr wrote: »
    "go with the ship that looks best to you", with a minimum of 3 tac consoles.

    Well TBH, all the ships the OP mentioned have a minimum of 3 Tac. consoles. So back to looks again. :P
    HQroeLu.jpg
  • crypt1c1crypt1c1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    shpoks wrote: »
    Since you said that you primarily consider PvE, I'll give you the usuall suggestion I give when someone asks this question on the forum - go with the ship that looks best to you.
    All of the ships you mentioned are verry good at PvE and you'd be better off looking at something you like all that time you're going to play with that ship. :)

    Now with that taken into consideration another question would be - do you intend to get the fleet version of the ship after you get the C-Store one?
    Because if you don't - you'll be on the skinny side with the Avenger hull, while the Odyssey is already a fleet quality ship with 10 consoles and fleet stats.
    If you do intend of upgrading to a fleet version (unless you choose an Oddy) then it boils down to looks again. Because the fleet stats are more or less similar and pretty solid for all of these, I consider even the fleet Avenger at 41.250 as quite solid. And also gameplay. Do you prefer flying your ship frontal and pointing it at the enemies or you, like myself, prefer the wide firing arc of beam arrays. Cause if you prefer beams, maybe your better off with a Regent than Avenger, due to higher hull. Or the Oddy for added versatility in that case.

    But personally for me looks>>>all. If a look of a ship grows on me, I'm using it regardless of stats. For PvE any ship can be tweaked to be very usefull with a lot of love and dedication (read grind:P).

    Very good advice....just one problem....I love the way all of them look :D might just get the Oddy because it has a unique bridge :p
  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    crypt1c1 wrote: »
    Very good advice....just one problem....I love the way all of them look :D might just get the Oddy because it has a unique bridge :p

    Well the Odyssey does have the most versatile Boff setup with Lt.Cmdr Uni and Ens. Uni.

    Other than that I can only say - flip a coin! :D Oh wait, there are 3 ships on that list....well maybe you can do a ballot or something... :P :D
    HQroeLu.jpg
  • khayuungkhayuung Member Posts: 1,877 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Are we all cruiser jocks here? :P

    I recommend the Armitage. She's an escort that looks like a cruiser. And she's the mistress in my arsenal, gets pulled out whenever I want to completely cheese someone's TRIBBLE with yellowstones and BO shield pen.

    But if you're in it for the long haul, go for a dreadnought cruiser. I can give you a good build if you like. XD


    "Last Engage! Magical Girl Origami-san" is in print! Now with three times more rainbows.

    Support the "Armored Unicorn" vehicle initiative today!

    Thanks for Harajuku. Now let's get a real "Magical Girl" costume!
  • farmallmfarmallm Member Posts: 4,630 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Ship choices can be hard at times. I know cause I only got a couple from the C store. And any I buy is a careful decision. It depends on your playing style, and what you like for a ship. Do you want a more Eng geared, attack, or science. Next which one you like in looks cause you will be the one using it.

    I don't have any of those C store ships. But I got the Excelsior. She can take a good beating with her Engineering layout. Plus and give it to the enemy with a decent Tactical layout. I got the ship back late July. And still using it.

    The Avenger looks killer. And with a very nasty layout ready to punish your target. I plan on getting that one later.

    See what your planning on doing and go from there. And make it count.
    Enterprise%20C_zpsrdrf3v8d.jpg

    USS Casinghead NCC 92047 launched 2350
    Fleet Admiral Stowe - Dominion War Vet.
  • jarfarujarfaru Member Posts: 593 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Man if your just doing PVE why waste the money on a avenger. You can setup any ship to be a beast in PVE. The Avenger will be over kill in PVE. I would probably get bored.
  • crypt1c1crypt1c1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    jarfaru wrote: »
    Man if your just doing PVE why waste the money on a avenger. You can setup any ship to be a beast in PVE. The Avenger will be over kill in PVE. I would probably get bored.

    Im not spending any money, I exchanged dilithium for zen.
  • scottstatenscottstaten Member Posts: 92 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    jarfaru wrote: »
    Man if your just doing PVE why waste the money on a avenger. You can setup any ship to be a beast in PVE. The Avenger will be over kill in PVE. I would probably get bored.

    There is no Overkill, there is only "open Fire" and "I need to reload"
  • crypt1c1crypt1c1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    There is no Overkill, there is only "open Fire" and "I need to reload"
    You sir have won the internet.:P
  • farmallmfarmallm Member Posts: 4,630 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    jarfaru wrote: »
    Man if your just doing PVE why waste the money on a avenger. You can setup any ship to be a beast in PVE. The Avenger will be over kill in PVE. I would probably get bored.

    It don't really matter, besides how else can you play the ship you want. At times you get what you can. Elite on regular missions can be very challenge. Or head into STFs. PVE is what I do and don't get bored. Most of my ships are easily over kill. However want to add it up. Go around and gather up a few more ships then take them all on. I do that a lot. Everyone plays like how they want. The game is not all about STFs, or PVP.
    Enterprise%20C_zpsrdrf3v8d.jpg

    USS Casinghead NCC 92047 launched 2350
    Fleet Admiral Stowe - Dominion War Vet.
  • erhardgrunderhardgrund Member Posts: 167 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    My advice is to go with the regent. It has the same boff layout the avenger has and it comes with 3 tac consoles and the discount for the fleet version.
    Its fleet version is the most powerfull b broadsider at the moment and the wide angle quantum torp is worth it for every ship.
    And you have 4 skins to play with till it looks the way you like most.

    The Odyssey is only realy worth it if you go for the bundle.
    The avenger is more of an escort light, Stats look very good but imho its fugly as hell.
    Id wait and see how it performs and if it gets good reviews id probably buy it,

    But for cruisers id go regent or excelsior.
    Cruisers ftw!
  • crypt1c1crypt1c1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    So what are your opinions now that the Avenger is out?
  • captiandata1captiandata1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    very much feel like about 450 to 550 meter long hot rod that fights very hard and very well and turn just as good as she fight. do load load up the avenger's engineering with kentic res armor, res all armor, stuck intagerty regeneration. better the yet the fleet armor consoles if possible. the fleet rcs thrusters whick add knetic res armor, res all armor, stuck intagerty would get u a lot more turn rate and some more in the kentic res armor, res all armor, stuck intagerty
  • captiandata1captiandata1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    the avenger is is about 500 to 550 meter long which is larger then i though it would be for a fed cruiser with a 9 degree per minute turning rate. i was thinking from the pictures that the avenger could not be more then 350 meter long.
  • crypt1c1crypt1c1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    So would the Avenger be viable for both my Tac and Engi alt? I am now able to get both the c store and fleet versions or should I just get an Oddy?
  • reginamala78reginamala78 Member Posts: 4,593 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    crypt1c1 wrote: »
    So would the Avenger be viable for both my Tac and Engi alt? I am now able to get both the c store and fleet versions or should I just get an Oddy?

    Certainly could. Run it one way with DHCs and tac universal, use it like a destroyer. Then for the other character, beam arrays and eng universal, make a FAW boat of doom. Two dramatically different playstyles out of the same ship.
Sign In or Register to comment.