What a disappointment this ship has been, it had so much potential. You could have made this the federation answer to the scimitar and given me a reason to use all my retired fed characters again, alas you have failed. By giving this ship a cmdr engineering instead of a cmdr tac you have made it nothing more than a glorified fleet assault cruiser that can load cannons.
Further more you continue to force fed ships to waste a console slot on a cloaking device, and if that wasn't bad enough you don't even let it be a battle cloak so its at least useful.
Am I the only one thinking this is what the Dreadnought Cruiser (3-nacelle Galaxy) should have been? The Avenger can cloak and mount DCs and DHCs, but has a better turn rate, boff layout, and console layout than the Dreadnought Cruiser.
I finally decided the next set I was going to buy was the scimitar. Now this?
Sounds like this will be an individual ship, as opposed to three different variants. That'll make it easier to get both. :-)
I really like my oddessy, but the fleet version sucks compared to c-store.
If the .5 inertia does translate to a 50, then the Avenger should handle better than the Exeter with its 9 turn/40 inertia. So ladies and gents I give you THE T5 CONNIE!:eek:
Really -- let us use the T2 Cruiser skins on this bad boy, we will be sooooo happy!
New Federation bridge and interiors are suposed to be released with S8. Not 100% sure on the whole interiors, but I've seen snapshots of the new bridge.
Do you have a link? I'd very much like to see what they've got in store.
You're just a machine. And machines can be broken.
What a disappointment this ship has been, it had so much potential. You could have made this the federation answer to the scimitar and given me a reason to use all my retired fed characters again, alas you have failed. By giving this ship a cmdr engineering instead of a cmdr tac you have made it nothing more than a glorified fleet assault cruiser that can load cannons.
Further more you continue to force fed ships to waste a console slot on a cloaking device, and if that wasn't bad enough you don't even let it be a battle cloak so its at least useful.
No Sale. Romulans Online continues.
I Sence fanboyism here :P... its a good ship it has buffs it has everything romulans are not invisible they can die like any other ship... I know very good fed players who take romulans down ...So if you going to be a fan boy that's fine don't judge what you have not fought yet bye a good player...
Do you have a link? I'd very much like to see what they've got in store.
Sorry, forgot to save the link back then. It was one of the devs' tweets, I think it was by BranFlakes.
From what I was able to see, it basically follows the Odyssey bridge philosophy with some different colours and standard LCARS displays instead of the holographic ones if I recall corectly.
Wow so on top of the KDF not having a 5x tact console ship now they basically are getting a battle cruiser that out guns all the KDF who don't have 5 fore weapons.
To speak of the EP/STO Team stated they do not want any talk about this faction getting this or that but they create this issue so basically the KDF is being taken down a peg after each new mold by an organization that is suppossed to be about exploration and peace LOL. I guess I wasn't surprised at this but yet their actions speak louder than their words.
Love to see all the views and finally the stats. Like I said earlier, I will buy it. However I got a Romulan ship I already got my mind set for now. So this ship will have to wait until a later purchase. I see it as a Christmas gift more likely. I was wanting more options on the ship. But since the Fleet version only as a pylon change. Which I didn't like them straight out. I love the Bridge stations, so I have time to get my officers set up and ready to use the ship. Not sure what paint job I will put on the ship.
Thanks for making this fine ship. Looking forward to adding it to my Engineer Captain's Fleet.
USS Casinghead NCC 92047 launched 2350
Fleet Admiral Stowe - Dominion War Vet.
That's the one. Now that is a bridge that will go well with an Avenger! :cool:
Almost enough to make me move away from my desire for Belfast bridges. I can see elements of both the Galaxy and Intrepid bridges in the design...
The UFP seal in the middle of the bridge floor is an interesting touch...
"If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross; but it's not for the timid." -- Q, TNG: "Q-Who?"
^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
I asked him and he said it's part of the new S8 tutorial. I was hoping that it was the Vesta bridge.
Maybe so, but they would be mad not to release the bridge for use on player ships. Even if they put it in the C-Store (I hope they don't) it's an art asset that would be completely wasted if it was only ever seen in the tutorial, and never again!
I find it kind of insulting that they gave us all this talk about how full interiors and bridges take too long to make so Roms only get one and then they make this for the feds.>.>
That is what a battle ship looks like, its slow moving, however can take many targets out in the same area. Honestly, oh and the hull is made from some really strong stuff!
Please reconsider ARC. Please make it optional, at the least. PLEASE.
It seems the vast majority of your most active players (forum regulars) hate the idea... and while that's a small subset of the playerbase, I think it's an important constituency.
THE PLAYERS DO NOT WANT THIS.
That really is something I would like to see added. That is a beautiful bridge and I'm going to say by far the best this game would have to offer. Who ever is responsible for that creation did an excellent job on that.
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Wow so on top of the KDF not having a 5x tact console ship now they basically are getting a battle cruiser that out guns all the KDF who don't have 5 fore weapons.
To speak of the EP/STO Team stated they do not want any talk about this faction getting this or that but they create this issue so basically the KDF is being taken down a peg after each new mold by an organization that is suppossed to be about exploration and peace LOL. I guess I wasn't surprised at this but yet their actions speak louder than their words.
avenger and battle cruiser. are words that you would think would never be used officially by the federation/Starfleet that don't believe in wars. to the point a warship designed to fight the borg was officially an escort ship.
Maybe so, but they would be mad not to release the bridge for use on player ships. Even if they put it in the C-Store (I hope they don't) it's an art asset that would be completely wasted if it was only ever seen in the tutorial, and never again!
Exactly. That's why I'm expecting to be able to buy it from the C-Store from my ships.
I DO like the flat-pylon configuration a lot. This may be the first ship I spend C-points on...
Please reconsider ARC. Please make it optional, at the least. PLEASE.
It seems the vast majority of your most active players (forum regulars) hate the idea... and while that's a small subset of the playerbase, I think it's an important constituency.
THE PLAYERS DO NOT WANT THIS.
As a tac cruiser captain who current alternates between the Excelsior and Regent, the adjusted states of the Avenger make me very, very happy. Now it's more balanced and doesn't immediately obsolete the other two. Starfleet will now have a trifecta of effective tactical cruisers, each with their own niche.
I can't wait to get my hands on her, figure out the right setup for me, and then add her to my ship rotation.
I've never tried to get a fleet ship before. How do we go about getting this one?
For the fleet version of this one you need:
- 4 fleet modules and access to a fleet with a Tier 4 shipyard or;
- Buy the Avenger from the C-Store and get a discount for every char you want a fleet Avenger on. After a C-Store purchase it will const 1 fleet module per every char you decide to get a fleet version. Ofcourse, you still need access to a fleet with a T4 shipyard.
i was only guess the size of about 280 meters to 530 meters long could fit the size of a pocket heavy battle cruiser to heavy battle which is light on hall for a cruiser but fit into the destroyer class well. from the pictured though the the new avenger class was would have been designed my tom paris, belanna torres paris, owen paris marel paris, tuvok, nog and admiral pevel checkov in the star trek online universe over the course of the long 2409 war. i could that tom pairs and checkov wanted to used the updated and retrofited the old constitution class with new part hall members. between the very limited number of any constitution hall left over after conni's were museums, mothballed, scraped, or converted to tier 1 class mirenda refits. also most of the group belanna torres paris, owen paris marel paris, tuvok, nog wanting a newer ship which could be built stronger then any old conni can be rebuilt.
new avenger was designed by starfleet to be about 25% to 40% larger the the old consititution class while still being about 25% to 40% smaller the the exelsior and ambassador class with the hall of a light battle cruiser/heavy destroyer and the fire power of and battle ship. also starfleet ships sometime start to feel very clumbsy at about 450 meters long in most cases except for the excelsior and the ambassador. last the avenger class does have a base turn rate of 9 degrees per second which does match the base turn rate of 9 degrees per second of the tier 1 conni repica and tier 2 constitution refit class. so about 325 to 400 meters feels like any fed ship can be maxium in length and still feel balanced.
avenger and battle cruiser. are words that you would think would never be used officially by the federation/Starfleet that don't believe in wars. to the point a warship designed to fight the borg was officially an escort ship.
Funny I thought battle cruiser was a Klingon classification for cruisers didn't the Klingons in startrek 3 call the Enterprise a federation battle cruiser?
This is a much better video, and it was an original design.
Also remember this game was made in 2000, you would have thought newer games would have improved by now!
Apparently this kid refuses to see that all of the people who responded to him tried (and apparently failed) to make him realize that the difference between a ship and a cruiser is a HUGE one.
I DO like the flat-pylon configuration a lot. This may be the first ship I spend C-points on...
i wish they pylons do what voyagers do and move when going to warp that would be the most epic thing for the avenger class =D what can i say i love the voyagers moveable pylons lol
and everytime i gonna use the avenger ship this well be randomly playing in my head >_< http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNgc0UybvGA
Yes, at least it doesn't have an illogicaly high shield mod! (And hangar bay, hope it stays this way.)
As others have wondered, 0.5 inertia translates to what exactly? The numbers in game range from about 18 (Bortasqu', I think) to 80 on most manoeuvrable escorts (100 for small craft, unless I'm mistaken).
While I'm wondering... how come this ship can get a fleet version right away while the Ar'kif couldn't? And how come the FEDs get a second (or fourth) 5 front wep ship while the first 'possibly in the works' one for KDF can wait (not to mention even the ROMs got a 3 pack of front 5 weps already)?
TOIVA, Toi Vaxx, Toia Vix, Toveg, T'vritha, To Vrax: Bring in the Allegiance class. Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider. Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.
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Further more you continue to force fed ships to waste a console slot on a cloaking device, and if that wasn't bad enough you don't even let it be a battle cloak so its at least useful.
No Sale. Romulans Online continues.
Sounds like this will be an individual ship, as opposed to three different variants. That'll make it easier to get both. :-)
I really like my oddessy, but the fleet version sucks compared to c-store.
What is this madness.
Do you have a link? I'd very much like to see what they've got in store.
I Sence fanboyism here :P... its a good ship it has buffs it has everything romulans are not invisible they can die like any other ship... I know very good fed players who take romulans down ...So if you going to be a fan boy that's fine don't judge what you have not fought yet bye a good player...
Here ya go.
https://twitter.com/PWE_BranFlakes/status/371038461270044672/photo/1
Sorry, forgot to save the link back then. It was one of the devs' tweets, I think it was by BranFlakes.
From what I was able to see, it basically follows the Odyssey bridge philosophy with some different colours and standard LCARS displays instead of the holographic ones if I recall corectly.
EDIT: Ninja'd by koppenflak!
To speak of the EP/STO Team stated they do not want any talk about this faction getting this or that but they create this issue so basically the KDF is being taken down a peg after each new mold by an organization that is suppossed to be about exploration and peace LOL. I guess I wasn't surprised at this but yet their actions speak louder than their words.
That's the one. Now that is a bridge that will go well with an Avenger! :cool:
Thanks for making this fine ship. Looking forward to adding it to my Engineer Captain's Fleet.
USS Casinghead NCC 92047 launched 2350
Fleet Admiral Stowe - Dominion War Vet.
Almost enough to make me move away from my desire for Belfast bridges. I can see elements of both the Galaxy and Intrepid bridges in the design...
The UFP seal in the middle of the bridge floor is an interesting touch...
^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
I asked him and he said it's part of the new S8 tutorial. I was hoping that it was the Vesta bridge.
Maybe so, but they would be mad not to release the bridge for use on player ships. Even if they put it in the C-Store (I hope they don't) it's an art asset that would be completely wasted if it was only ever seen in the tutorial, and never again!
Oh my.
I'll...i'll be right back
I find it kind of insulting that they gave us all this talk about how full interiors and bridges take too long to make so Roms only get one and then they make this for the feds.>.>
But it is a lovely bridge.^_^
All due respect, but I find that thing
(this one:http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/USS_Yamato_(NCX-5626-V))
Beyond grotesque.
It seems the vast majority of your most active players (forum regulars) hate the idea... and while that's a small subset of the playerbase, I think it's an important constituency.
THE PLAYERS DO NOT WANT THIS.
That really is something I would like to see added. That is a beautiful bridge and I'm going to say by far the best this game would have to offer. Who ever is responsible for that creation did an excellent job on that.
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avenger and battle cruiser. are words that you would think would never be used officially by the federation/Starfleet that don't believe in wars. to the point a warship designed to fight the borg was officially an escort ship.
Exactly. That's why I'm expecting to be able to buy it from the C-Store from my ships.
It seems the vast majority of your most active players (forum regulars) hate the idea... and while that's a small subset of the playerbase, I think it's an important constituency.
THE PLAYERS DO NOT WANT THIS.
I can't wait to get my hands on her, figure out the right setup for me, and then add her to my ship rotation.
For the fleet version of this one you need:
- 4 fleet modules and access to a fleet with a Tier 4 shipyard or;
- Buy the Avenger from the C-Store and get a discount for every char you want a fleet Avenger on. After a C-Store purchase it will const 1 fleet module per every char you decide to get a fleet version. Ofcourse, you still need access to a fleet with a T4 shipyard.
new avenger was designed by starfleet to be about 25% to 40% larger the the old consititution class while still being about 25% to 40% smaller the the exelsior and ambassador class with the hall of a light battle cruiser/heavy destroyer and the fire power of and battle ship. also starfleet ships sometime start to feel very clumbsy at about 450 meters long in most cases except for the excelsior and the ambassador. last the avenger class does have a base turn rate of 9 degrees per second which does match the base turn rate of 9 degrees per second of the tier 1 conni repica and tier 2 constitution refit class. so about 325 to 400 meters feels like any fed ship can be maxium in length and still feel balanced.
Funny I thought battle cruiser was a Klingon classification for cruisers didn't the Klingons in startrek 3 call the Enterprise a federation battle cruiser?
Apparently this kid refuses to see that all of the people who responded to him tried (and apparently failed) to make him realize that the difference between a ship and a cruiser is a HUGE one.
~shakes head~
No . . . no they are not. But again you knew that. LOL
i wish they pylons do what voyagers do and move when going to warp that would be the most epic thing for the avenger class =D what can i say i love the voyagers moveable pylons lol
and everytime i gonna use the avenger ship this well be randomly playing in my head >_<
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNgc0UybvGA
As others have wondered, 0.5 inertia translates to what exactly? The numbers in game range from about 18 (Bortasqu', I think) to 80 on most manoeuvrable escorts (100 for small craft, unless I'm mistaken).
While I'm wondering... how come this ship can get a fleet version right away while the Ar'kif couldn't? And how come the FEDs get a second (or fourth) 5 front wep ship while the first 'possibly in the works' one for KDF can wait (not to mention even the ROMs got a 3 pack of front 5 weps already)?
Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider.
Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.
Don't make ARC mandatory! Keep it optional only!