When F2P started, people started to think that 1v1 works in here so I made a decision:
If you can kill my Eng 1v1, you will win 10 mill EC - if you don't, you owe me 1 mill EC.
[edit] Time limit is 10 minutes - everything is allowed, no restrictions, no rules [/edit]
There's a big difference between a 1v1 where it is the first to a kill and it being about one person having to kill the other. If the Eng isn't worried about having to kill the other person...well...yeah.
No offense but that is pretty lame...building a super tank engineer that is basically indestructible in 1 vs. 1 is not at all that difficult. My Odyssey has proven unbeatable in 1 vs. 1 time and time and time again. Can easily withstand alpha strikes, big red ball of death, and B.O. double tap when it was available all at the same time no problem. Sure it made me get a swollen head but that doesn't mean it was the best PvP build or something.
The issue is...are you useful to your team in the match. Can you heal them for at least 13,000 hit points or more every 15 seconds? Can you clear mines, pets, torps, ect. so the escorts can do their job in peace?
Tell you what...if you kill me I'll give you 10,000,000 EC...I'll even up the anti, if you do more damage on your Engi cruiser than mine I'll give you 5,000,000 EC and if you lose...you don't owe me a thing.
The name is Grayfox@GrayfoxJames in-game and after we're done win or lose go prove yourself in a 5 vs. 5 match.
Again just a friendly match to show that 1 vs. 1 is not real PvP.
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The issue is...are you useful to your team in the match. Can you heal them for at least 13,000 hit points or more every 15 seconds? Can you clear mines, pets, torps, ect. so the escorts can do their job in peace?
The name is Grayfox@GrayfoxJames in-game and after we're done win or lose go prove yourself in a 5 vs. 5 match.
OK, while I personally don't see all that much reason to 1v1 a super Eng tank, you should at least be told that Trinity/TheCylus is a top notch premade healer.
I am kinda of tempted to take this offer up too. Bring a effload of bleed to that fat whale of a cruiser. At least in this case you avoid half the tank alone. I must say though tsi must have fallen off the map if this is what their players do nowadays. Worst that can happen is I lose 1 million in chump change! Heck I put 1million ec up my toons nose each night :P
When F2P startet, people started to think that 1v1 works in here so I made a decision:
If you can kill my Eng 1v1, you will win 10 mill EC - if you don't, you owe me 1 mill EC.
Being unkillable in Stall Trek Online is the easiest thing to do...
Even tac vs tac results in a stalemate if one is not an escort.
You should put a time limit on this. Otherwise it could end like that 35min 1v1 we once had when it took me a long time to finally get that 70k javelin crit.
I'll eng/eng you. First one to fall asleep loses.
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Haha best post here. This is so true a tank vs. tank really turns into a battle of which player can stand the boredom longer. This whole thread sounds like an ego post personally not the best quality of a team player. Anyway, to each their own.
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Haha best post here. This is so true a tank vs. tank really turns into a battle of which player can stand the boredom longer. This whole thread sounds like an ego post personally not the best quality of a team player. Anyway, to each their own.
Trinity is a good team player.
Nothing wrong with a little challenge here and there.
Nothing wrong with a little challenge here and there.
Sorry I quoted the wrong thing I meant to quote the fall asleep one not that he's a good healer or team player. I edited the post.
I was not laughing at him or anything and no there is nothing wrong with a challenge here and there; just something about the way it was presented I guess. I guess one reads text as they feel it so I could be wrong in any case.
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Liberty Task Force/Liberty Honor Guard
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Liberty Guardians U.S.S. Liberty, NX-42813-L, T-6 Legendary Odyssey Class
When F2P startet, people started to think that 1v1 works in here so I made a decision:
If you can kill my Eng 1v1, you will win 10 mill EC - if you don't, you owe me 1 mill EC.
Actually...re-reading the original post I need to take back everything I said and apologize. Seems Trinity is trying to just prove that 1 vs. 1 is not real PvP for those that think it is. Which is the argument all the posts afterwards were stating. Though, this would be something to prove to players in ESD and not in the PvP forums, I think most players here realize that 1 vs. 1 is mainly used to test builds and not a true measurement of PvP.
So for my part I'm sorry Trinity...seems I should stop reading posts at 1 a.m. when I'm tired. Either way to the O.P. I'm sorry for my post defending my point of view not realizing we have the same.
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I'm not going anywhere near Trin, i don't 1v1 well and the idea doesen't appeal at all.
Plus i don't even get up in the morning for 15mill or less hehe.
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I'm not going anywhere near Trin, i don't 1v1 well and the idea doesen't appeal at all.
Plus i don't even get up in the morning for 15mill or less hehe.
Haha sure :P the world would be a lot better with hugs. I have no problem apologizing or admitting when I'm wrong. I would still take the challenge, though I think it would end up us just flying around in circles of each other for forever and that doesn't appeal to me either.
The real challenge for me is fighting against a full Science captain. A good one can shut a cruiser down real quick and you have to be quick and ready for all their drains and shut downs. Surviving a tact with a tanks stacking armor consoles, and an elite shield, borg set, ect. is a lot easier than a science. Too bad I rarely see as many good science captains as tacts and engineers.
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I fought thecylus once... Laughed at me for not doing any damage... Thanks !
Well that's not very nice sportsman-like conduct. I wouldn't laugh and I'm sure you did fine, nothing a little tweaking couldn't fix.
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I don't have the funds, nor the desire to attempt to kill an Engi/Cruiser or try to prove that I can do it at this time. Nor do I have the Gear to really make a good attempt at proving it can or can't be done.
Not that I don't want 10mil. But I'd rather save my EC for ships and so forth.
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A sci drainboat carrier might be capable of doing the trick - but I'm not confident enough of my own skills to do it.
Yeah, KDF sci with Polaron weapons, Siphon drone Pets, AA, Tykens + Aftershock, Energy siphon +3 Doffs, maybe even a VM + Doff thrown in..instead of the 3 Siphon Doffs
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I ask because it was always easy to make an unkillable Engie build for 1v1. Moreso now that stacking Tac buffs have been nerfed.
R.I.P
The issue is...are you useful to your team in the match. Can you heal them for at least 13,000 hit points or more every 15 seconds? Can you clear mines, pets, torps, ect. so the escorts can do their job in peace?
Tell you what...if you kill me I'll give you 10,000,000 EC...I'll even up the anti, if you do more damage on your Engi cruiser than mine I'll give you 5,000,000 EC and if you lose...you don't owe me a thing.
The name is Grayfox@GrayfoxJames in-game and after we're done win or lose go prove yourself in a 5 vs. 5 match.
Again just a friendly match to show that 1 vs. 1 is not real PvP.
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Contact me tomorrow so we can arrange it Trinity.
OK, while I personally don't see all that much reason to 1v1 a super Eng tank, you should at least be told that Trinity/TheCylus is a top notch premade healer.
I am kinda of tempted to take this offer up too. Bring a effload of bleed to that fat whale of a cruiser. At least in this case you avoid half the tank alone. I must say though tsi must have fallen off the map if this is what their players do nowadays. Worst that can happen is I lose 1 million in chump change! Heck I put 1million ec up my toons nose each night :P
Being unkillable in Stall Trek Online is the easiest thing to do...
Even tac vs tac results in a stalemate if one is not an escort.
Poor soul didnt have time to log out.
it was all turtles and one dps.
no one got anywhere, we got like... 4-1 (mostly us on one guy who was the weakest link on their team)and then everyone else quit out of boredom.
i think valerious and i went at it another 5-10 minutes stalemate and then we left too.
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Haha best post here. This is so true a tank vs. tank really turns into a battle of which player can stand the boredom longer. This whole thread sounds like an ego post
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Trinity is a good team player.
Nothing wrong with a little challenge here and there.
Sorry I quoted the wrong thing I meant to quote the fall asleep one not that he's a good healer or team player. I edited the post.
I was not laughing at him or anything and no there is nothing wrong with a challenge here and there; just something about the way it was presented I guess. I guess one reads text as they feel it so I could be wrong in any case.
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Actually...re-reading the original post I need to take back everything I said and apologize. Seems Trinity is trying to just prove that 1 vs. 1 is not real PvP for those that think it is. Which is the argument all the posts afterwards were stating. Though, this would be something to prove to players in ESD and not in the PvP forums, I think most players here realize that 1 vs. 1 is mainly used to test builds and not a true measurement of PvP.
So for my part I'm sorry Trinity...seems I should stop reading posts at 1 a.m. when I'm tired. Either way to the O.P. I'm sorry for my post defending my point of view not realizing we have the same.
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I'm not going anywhere near Trin, i don't 1v1 well and the idea doesen't appeal at all.
Plus i don't even get up in the morning for 15mill or less hehe.
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Haha sure :P the world would be a lot better with hugs. I have no problem apologizing or admitting when I'm wrong. I would still take the challenge, though I think it would end up us just flying around in circles of each other for forever and that doesn't appeal to me either.
The real challenge for me is fighting against a full Science captain. A good one can shut a cruiser down real quick and you have to be quick and ready for all their drains and shut downs. Surviving a tact with a tanks stacking armor consoles, and an elite shield, borg set, ect. is a lot easier than a science. Too bad I rarely see as many good science captains as tacts and engineers.
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Well that's not very nice sportsman-like conduct. I wouldn't laugh and I'm sure you did fine, nothing a little tweaking couldn't fix.
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LOL !!!!!
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I'd say no, because we know it's foolish to bet 1M ec on trying to kill a tank.
I don't have the funds, nor the desire to attempt to kill an Engi/Cruiser or try to prove that I can do it at this time. Nor do I have the Gear to really make a good attempt at proving it can or can't be done.
Not that I don't want 10mil. But I'd rather save my EC for ships and so forth.
Think about this:
American Football has been in open beta for 144 years. ~Kotaku
Yeah, KDF sci with Polaron weapons, Siphon drone Pets, AA, Tykens + Aftershock, Energy siphon +3 Doffs, maybe even a VM + Doff thrown in..instead of the 3 Siphon Doffs
Think about this:
American Football has been in open beta for 144 years. ~Kotaku