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jorumgandrjorumgandr Member Posts: 142 Arc User
edited October 2013 in Klingon Discussion
So, taking a walk around and Qo'noS and the Devs seemed to have updated worf's appearance, I couldn't help to notice the new hair style as well... any chance of these cosmetic updates hitting the rest of the klingons?
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  • twg042370twg042370 Member Posts: 2,312 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    jorumgandr wrote: »
    So, taking a walk around and Qo'noS and the Devs seemed to have updated worf's appearance, I couldn't help to notice the new hair style as well... any chance of these cosmetic updates hitting the rest of the klingons?

    They might even get more than the same two uniforms!
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  • futurepastnowfuturepastnow Member Posts: 3,660 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    They did! Excellent. Worf looked way too old before. He's ~69 which isn't even middle-aged for a Klingon, so this is a good change.
  • kpg1usakpg1usa Member Posts: 190 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    So, Worf joined the Hair Club for Klingons, and he's not just a client, he's the Emperor of the Hair Club!
  • rodentmasterrodentmaster Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Klingons were supposed to have shorter lives than Humans. At this point in time, far after TNG-era, Worf would indeed be an older Klingon.
  • mandoknight89mandoknight89 Member Posts: 1,687 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Klingons were supposed to have shorter lives than Humans. At this point in time, far after TNG-era, Worf would indeed be an older Klingon.

    Kor was an older Klingon... at about 150. In the 24-25th centuries, Klingons and Humans alike have much longer life spans than we do now. Worf may be a grandfather (D'Vak, the Admiral in command of Task Force Omega and the U.S.S. Houston, is implied to be the "D'Vak, son of Alexander Rozhenko" mentioned in the Road to 2409), but he's not old.
  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    I would love to have he old ingame worfs hair option.

    As to klingons lifespan, it is slightly in excess of 150 years with no apreciatable loss of strength. Klingons due mature faster than humans though with a 8 year child being equal to a 16 year old human child.
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  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Anybody have Before & After pics?
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  • voyagerfan9751voyagerfan9751 Member Posts: 1,120 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Klingons were supposed to have shorter lives than Humans. At this point in time, far after TNG-era, Worf would indeed be an older Klingon.

    As has been stated, The Natural lifespan of a Klingon is greater then a Human, not shorter. Though keep in mind humans also have longer lifespans then they do in present day.

    The thing to remember is that Klingons, by nature of their culture and lifestyle, tend to rarely live out there natural lives. More often then not, dying in battle.
  • mandoknight89mandoknight89 Member Posts: 1,687 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    daveyny wrote: »
    Anybody have Before & After pics?

    Here's an after shot. It's not my best, but it shows the new 'do. His old mugshot is still on the wiki for now.

    Edit: Here's a front view image, and here's his face in the contact dialog.
  • zordar01zordar01 Member Posts: 318
    edited October 2013
    kpg1usa wrote: »
    So, Worf joined the Hair Club for Klingons, and he's not just a client, he's the Emperor of the Hair Club!

    He was just a client before he challenged the former Hair Emperor and subsequently strangled him with his own braid. Many songs will be sung of that glorious battle...
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  • hawke89305092hawke89305092 Member Posts: 237 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Just wait until Gowron ends up in a time travel mission/flashback and we get to see his massive mane of hair. He'll be a true Emperor of the Hair Club...

    And he'll have crazy eyes!

    Now that I think about it, this game needs more Gowron!
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  • zordar01zordar01 Member Posts: 318
    edited October 2013
    Now that I think about it, this game needs more Gowron!

    Dude, LOTS of things need more Gowron.

    Spring break? Yep

    Presidential debates? Hell yeah.

    Amish Mafia? Most definitely.


    Gowron. Bringing the crazy eyes since 2367...
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  • nagrom7nagrom7 Member Posts: 995 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    [Conspiracy]I'm thinking this means that cryptic are able to use his likeness now, perhaps paving the way for possible voice work?[/Conspiracy]
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  • davidwforddavidwford Member Posts: 1,836 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    As has been stated, The Natural lifespan of a Klingon is greater then a Human, not shorter. Though keep in mind humans also have longer lifespans then they do in present day.

    The thing to remember is that Klingons, by nature of their culture and lifestyle, tend to rarely live out there natural lives. More often then not, dying in battle.

    Indeed. This is true of many warrior cultures. The average life expectancy is shorter because the youthful die young in glorious battle. Kor in "Once more unto the Breech" (DS9) even warned to the young members of the Rottarren crew who were mocking him "Savor the fruit of life, my young friends. It has a sweet taste when it's fresh from the vine. But don't live too long... The taste turns bitter... after a time." Similarly, Douglas MacArthur said "Old Soldiers never die, they just fade away."
  • misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    davidwford wrote: »
    Indeed. This is true of many warrior cultures. The average life expectancy is shorter because the youthful die young in glorious battle. Kor in "Once more unto the Breech" (DS9) even warned to the young members of the Rottarren crew who were mocking him "Savor the fruit of life, my young friends. It has a sweet taste when it's fresh from the vine. But don't live too long... The taste turns bitter... after a time." Similarly, Douglas MacArthur said "Old Soldiers never die, they just fade away."

    I think the problem behind the Klingon lifespan debate is actually a slightly different one: the old FASA materials claimed Klingons had a much shorter lifespan than humans.
    60 being about the maximum on average and the human-klingon "fusions" (FASA's explanation for the forehead problem) getting a few more years, so it was based on genetics and not combat attrition.
    And since people don't tend to check where certain information comes from they just grab stuff they found somewhere written by someone and run with it.
  • deaftravis05deaftravis05 Member Posts: 4,885 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Well, Klingons do not have an average longer life span than Humans... average is calculated not by the biological lifespan capacities, but rather how long they actually live. Since most die in combat, that reduces their lifespan calculations.

    Worf is old because he rarely, if ever loses in physical combat. He's also a King maker. He killed Duras, paving the way for Gowron, then killed Gowron some time later. He has killed many Klingons, Borg and Jem'Hadar in close quarter combat. Let him have his own special hair. He's a special man.

    It is debated, but apparently he let Martok best him in combat. In fact, the only time (alternative timeline wise) that I've seen him killed in close quarter combat was when he was assassinated, by being stabbed, in the back on the council floors.
  • doffingcomradedoffingcomrade Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    misterde3 wrote: »
    I think the problem behind the Klingon lifespan debate is actually a slightly different one: the old FASA materials claimed Klingons had a much shorter lifespan than humans.
    Since these materials are not canonical, and directly contradict what is observed in canonical material...
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  • misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Since these materials are not canonical, and directly contradict what is observed in canonical material...

    I thought that goes without saying it out loud.;)
  • lan451lan451 Member Posts: 3,386 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    nagrom7 wrote: »
    [Conspiracy]I'm thinking this means that cryptic are able to use his likeness now, perhaps paving the way for possible voice work?[/Conspiracy]

    That was my first thought too. Why an update all of a sudden? Unless...

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  • mandoknight89mandoknight89 Member Posts: 1,687 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    nagrom7 wrote: »
    [Conspiracy]I'm thinking this means that cryptic are able to use his likeness now, perhaps paving the way for possible voice work?[/Conspiracy]

    They were always able to use his likeness as Worf, due to his appearance being heavily modified by the prosthetic forehead.

    That said, Cryptic's been trying to figure out how to bring in more TNG stars for voice overs, and Michael Dorn isn't a stranger to video game voice acting work...
  • bridgernbridgern Member Posts: 709 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Wow he really looks like in the show now just a bit older.
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  • tpolebreakertpolebreaker Member Posts: 266 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Just wait until Gowron ends up in a time travel mission/flashback and we get to see his massive mane of hair. He'll be a true Emperor of the Hair Club...

    And he'll have crazy eyes!

    Now that I think about it, this game needs more Gowron!

    I've got a fever!

    And the only prescription... is more Gowron!

    O_O

    And yes, the new Worf is great... it's recognizably him now.
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  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    bridgern wrote: »
    Wow he really looks like in the show now just a bit older.

    Yeah, the resemblance is inconceivable now. It really looks much better. Worf is Worf once again!
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  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Here's an after shot. It's not my best, but it shows the new 'do. His old mugshot is still on the wiki for now.

    Edit: Here's a front view image, and here's his face in the contact dialog.

    Much better. So when do we get them in the tailor? :D
  • captainpirkocaptainpirko Member Posts: 270 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Not sure if Cryptic will be happy i'm disclosing this or not.... buuuuut

    at the end of august i went to Dragoncon in atlanta. Micheal Dorn was there, and i got to talk to him. according to him, he's already working with Cryptic right now. he wouldnt go into more detail, but the only reason i can think of that cryptic would higher Micheal Dorn is to do voice work.

    Soon my klingon comrades, we shall have some epic voice overs of our own to taunt the federation with!

    sidenote: anyone else noticed that they're highering voice actors in order of security chief of the enterprise? first tasha, then worf.... probably just a coincidence.
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  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Not sure if Cryptic will be happy i'm disclosing this or not.... buuuuut

    at the end of august i went to Dragoncon in atlanta. Micheal Dorn was there, and i got to talk to him. according to him, he's already working with Cryptic right now. he wouldnt go into more detail, but the only reason i can think of that cryptic would higher Micheal Dorn is to do voice work.

    Soon my klingon comrades, we shall have some epic voice overs of our own to taunt the federation with!

    sidenote: anyone else noticed that they're highering voice actors in order of security chief of the enterprise? first tasha, then worf.... probably just a coincidence.

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  • jrwithjrwith Member Posts: 154 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    he looked horrible before, glad they fixed this.
  • cookiecrookcookiecrook Member Posts: 4,542 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Here's an after shot. It's not my best, but it shows the new 'do. His old mugshot is still on the wiki for now.

    Edit: Here's a front view image, and here's his face in the contact dialog.

    The old hair reminds me of Doc Brown from Back to the Future. That definitely needs to be added to the tailor, if it isn't there already.
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  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Not sure if Cryptic will be happy i'm disclosing this or not.... buuuuut

    at the end of august i went to Dragoncon in atlanta. Micheal Dorn was there, and i got to talk to him. according to him, he's already working with Cryptic right now. he wouldnt go into more detail, but the only reason i can think of that cryptic would higher Micheal Dorn is to do voice work.

    Soon my klingon comrades, we shall have some epic voice overs of our own to taunt the federation with!

    sidenote: anyone else noticed that they're highering voice actors in order of security chief of the enterprise? first tasha, then worf.... probably just a coincidence.

    If Michael Dorn is coming aboard for some voice work, I can only hope that means alot of good things for the KDF. It may not necessarily mean KDF exclusive, but things to put the faction in a better spotlight. And with more attention, you know... more development. We'll see, but I know that's wishful thinking.

    Lastly, I hope Cryptic makes better use of Michael Dorn than the devs of Fallout New Vegas did. Dorn's Super Mutant was a character originally from Fallout 2 and brought back for FONV, but the quest involvement with him was very minimal.
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