Its OK, a lot of people on the internet don't understand what feedback is, then complain that no one listens, because they confuse feedback with giving orders, or taking a vote, so you are hardly the only person who doesn't understand what feedback is for. :rolleyes:
Ok, mr. snarkypants
Since you apparently didn't even read the thread you are commenting on, probably because you are either too lazy, or are just in a real rush to try and prove something to yourself, I'm going to repost my feedback here for you.
Appearance/Model: I like the looks of this ship, nice design, the model's pivot point is too far to the rear. A problem we see repeated that affects performance, and has been an issue since the design of the original KDF Raptors.
The Axis/Pivot point issue with this ship isn't as severe as it is for the Mogai, but that's more due to the overall width of the Mogai which hinders that ships ability to keep narrow arc weapons on target in fast paced combat (PvP).
I really wish the Art team & Systems team could collaborate on this angle, because "base Turn Rate" is more than just a single stat like "16". It is very heavily influenced by the design of the model, the length/width and the location of the pivot point.
Stats/Performance: This ship is squarely middle of the road, it might be popular in PvE primarily due to the Plasma focus.
Specifics
BOFF layout: It doesn't give us anything particularly different or novel compared to other warbirds.
Being locked into Ensign Eng means you have almost no choice but to slot Ltc Eng if you are a performance focused player. There are other warbirds that already do this, and do it better.
So for a ship that is supposed to be "All Escort" it will, in reality, be another hybrid that is Eng focused.
Consoles:
The T5-R version (non-fleet) has
4 Tac
3 Sci
2 Eng
So we have a ship that is "pure escort", but it will have LTC Eng BOFF, Ens Eng BOFF except low on Eng Consoles.
Final thoughts: Unfortunately, due to the amount hybrids that Romulans already get, this ship comes across as a slice of a tiny niche that is already occupied by ships that generally do the same or better due to more streamlined design.
The Dhelan will be better at the Sci/Scort focus while having greater versatility.
The Mogai will be much better at the heavy destroyer role, being both versatile and durable.
The T'Varo will be better at the full offense role, with more versatility, enhanced battle cloak.
The Ha'feh is already enough "pure escort" with a better BOFF & Console layout for it.
Then, going beyond the standard.
The Temporal Destroyer has more versatility, better options, with a similar design but a much more durable frame (sans-battlecloak, it's biggest flaw).
The Vet ship is more versatile, with a good console load, and it's only flaw being that it doesn't have a fleet version.
Items/Powers: I haven't fully tested this, so I will refrain from comment.
Although the Quad Cannon issue I mention, directly impacts any motivation to actually use/not use the 2 piece set.
The Quad Cannons are, sadly, saddled with DMGx4. Making it all but pointless in PvP, especially as these oddly still drain -weapons and -engines, which is really unnecessary.
Quad cannons for Roms, KDF, Feds should be added to the Fleet store.
1 per ship, and mutually exclusive with the versions that come on ships.
What I find interesting is, is when people who don't read threads, don't read the numerous bits of feed back from multiple players all saying the same thing, can somehow still manage to construe that as ME wanting the devs to bow to my "demands".
Next time, try actually reading before you pretend you know what you are talking about.
Can we have the Daeinos Warbird classified as a Tactical Warbird?
Like the Romulan Alliance System? Of course you do, it sounds fine to you because you aren't Romulans, you're FED or KDF who are going to make a Romulan alt, it makes a HUGE difference in perspective.
1) If you can't alpha effectively in a Mogai, you can't alpha effectively in any ship. The combination of Aux2Bat + Marionized DEM capability, more Tac boff seating (Cmd + Lt vs Cmd + Ens) and the inherent power drain resist make the Mogai one of, if not the best, alpha platforms currently ingame.
2) The Dhelan straight up beats the Ar'Kif. Identical hull, identical turn rate, identical console slots, better boff seating, superior shield modifier, and a two piece bonus that doesn't suck. Toss in a fleet Dhelan, and there's absolutely no comparison.
3) I agree that both the Ar'Kif and Ar'Kala are beautiful. That doesn't make it a more effective ship.
Well I'm glad that even after all this time you're still willing to insult me at the drop of a hat. It makes me feel like I did Garak levels of ego damage, I'm flattered.
1) I didn't say the Mogai can't alpha well, your reading comprehension needs some work. The AR ship can match the DEM and Aux2bat capabilities of the Mogai, so I don't know why you mentioned them. You re also incorrect about either ship having an ens tac boff. The fact of the matter is that the AR has more alpha options, and is thus better in that regard.
2) I never mentioned the Dhelan, my post was about how the Mogai will be obsolete after this thing gets a fleet variant.
3) I never implied looks made it a better ship functionally, at least we agreed on something for once.
Lets look at the Mogai, its a eng heavy that suffers from having a ensign sci forcing the universal lt to being Eng or being stuck with having AP:O to escape tractors.
This can very well set the universal as Lt cmdr and corrects the deficiency of the Mogai, the cost is 0.1 shield modifier and 2k hull but also gains base +2 turn rate.
Saying its not "on par" when its turn rate 16, 31,500 hull, 0.9 shields with battlecloak is simply BS, the Defiant have a worst layout (no universals, very tactical inclined but the scie and engs do the job), 30k hull for +1 turn rate over this ship with pretty much everything the same except no build-in battlecloak and 3 eng slots instead of 3 sci slots.
Its pretty on pair with the Defiant with some advantages and disadvantages on certain areas.
That brings me up to the point that this ship is fine, problem is that people just want power creep so much they refuse to accept a ship on the same tier being on par, every new release must bring more power or no buy.
It is Romulan and suffers from the disadvantages that all Romulan ships do. Power being the chief among these. The other ships all posses a basic Engie, Sci minimum that allows for standard builds and tactics to work. Unfortunately this ship drops that at the Level 30 Variant. Take a look it drops it's Lt for some reason to Ens... I do not get that. That is what cripples it. It then has less damage then a Defiant in exchange for 1 more heal. It also looses in category of Console usefulness, but that is for another Debate.
It is Romulan and suffers from the disadvantages that all Romulan ships do. Power being the chief among these. The other ships all posses a basic Engie, Sci minimum that allows for standard builds and tactics to work. Unfortunately this ship drops that at the Level 30 Variant. Take a look it drops it's Lt for some reason to Ens... I do not get that. That is what cripples it. It then has less damage then a Defiant in exchange for 1 more heal. It also looses in category of Console usefulness, but that is for another Debate.
Pretty much what they are not getting is that these ships are just meant to fill a void where you pretty much just have a d'deridex so if you want something that is more forgiving when turning while decloaked they could use this. Then the only thing after you hit 50 with it is the quad cannon/set. Although it looks cool but for the most part its just another console set which I do wonder why after so much time pointing out how the federation was leaving the KDF in the dust with the vesta, sovy refit, armitage, and kumari mold that they then learn nothing from their mistakes and start making these sets leaving the federation and the kdf behind.
I don't think its crippled in any way but I do see where someone could get the idea if you throw dirt on something a little bit at a time eventually you are going to bury it.
In the first dev blog about these ships they point out that they had lots of Romulan captains but not enough different ships for them to fly. In this dev blog they happily tell us 2/3 of these ships will be in the C-store tomorrow.
So I guess the logic was to fix the flaw in the game (lack of ships) by selling said fix to people.
Really, you shouldn't be charging for the things needed to fix corners cut by design.
Ok, a lot of people are saying that the Power Creep could be a problem here. I can see that. But this ship is not even on par with any existing ship. It is sub standard in design, this is why I hate this ship. If it were atleast competetive with other existing ships of the same Tier I would not be as critical. But it just forces me to think that the Design effort on this ship was wasted.
The ship is weak, in basic PvE it will be fine. In Elite PvE or PvP, she will be nuked a whole lot. Can it be made to do what is hyped about it in the Dev Blog? No, she lacks manuverability, speed, and a decent Boff seating.
The Power Creep does not have to be the issue here, but only good ships sell in large numbers. This one will cause some players to purchase it, then park it. Even a ship with a Higher Turn rate would have been nice. It just does not feel like a ship I want. So I will not buy it as she stands.
I like being on the Forums recently where I can voice my opinion, unfortunately that opinion is often ignored. Where as simply giving it a Lt Engineering or Universal seating would have made the ship good. Maybe even Great, who knows. But when they can not sell enough of these, maybe they will ask us what happened. Then we can link them here... See if they read anything other then "When Can I buy it???".
Cryptic, I really have to agree.
I was really looking forward to this ship releasing, (I love the way it looks, It's beautiful !)
BUT
Why would I buy this ship when the ones I already have perform better? On looks alone? I have to say, looks are enough to tempt me, but they won't seal the deal on an inferior ship.
I'm sorry, in this case, you won't be getting my money.
Some perspective here, if this ship doesn't sell well. it's NOT because Romulan ships don't sell, It will be because inferior Romulan ships don't sell, especially if the one's I have currently are BETTER.
Make this ship competitive with the ones I already have and I'll purchase it in a heartbeat.
Well I'm glad that even after all this time you're still willing to insult me at the drop of a hat. It makes me feel like I did Garak levels of ego damage, I'm flattered.
Can your usual passive aggressive bull**** please. I disagreed with you, and I pointed out why. If you want to insert your own inferiority complex into that equation and play the victim card when presented with a counterpoint, that's your decision.
1) I didn't say the Mogai can't alpha well, your reading comprehension needs some work. The AR ship can match the DEM and Aux2bat capabilities of the Mogai, so I don't know why you mentioned them. You re also incorrect about either ship having an ens tac boff. The fact of the matter is that the AR has more alpha options, and is thus better in that regard.
Incorrect. The Ar'kif cannot run an Aux2Bat build while carrying DEM. It has two non-ensign engineering slots (both on the Uni LC seat). You can't fit two Aux2bats and a DEM into that.
That means one Marionized Alpha every two minutes, instead of one every 45 seconds like the Mogai can pull off. Add in the inherent energy drain resist from the Mogai two-piece, and I have absolutely no idea how you're coming to the conclusion that the Ar'Kif can drop an alpha better.
2) I never mentioned the Dhelan, my post was about how the Mogai will be obsolete after this thing gets a fleet variant.
That depends entirely on what the fleet version does. Resilience-wise the Mogai is still going to outplay it (Fleet Mogai has nearly fleet cruiser levels of resistance, hull and shields. At best a fleet Ar'kif is going to have fleet escort toughness).
If a fleet Ar'Kif has something similar to the Temporal Destroyer in terms of boff seating there will be a place for it. If not, it's going to be a watered down version of the Dhelan.
Honestly, I don't see Cryptic effectively killing the sale of a Lobi ship for the sake of a C-Store ship.
In the first dev blog about these ships they point out that they had lots of Romulan captains but not enough different ships for them to fly. In this dev blog they happily tell us 2/3 of these ships will be in the C-store tomorrow.
So I guess the logic was to fix the flaw in the game (lack of ships) by selling said fix to people.
Really, you shouldn't be charging for the things needed to fix corners cut by design.
I love STO,
you give people a free ship many have asked for and people complain,
you give people a ship they can chose to buy and they complain.
:rolleyes:
This is the Romulan Defiant, a ship that has been in game for years and is very popular and you're complaining.
My Romulan Liberated Borg character made it to Level 30 and beat the (old) Defense of New Romulus with the skill point bug.
I was reading the Blog for the New Tactical Warbirds and was pleasantly surprised and excited especially the part of the Blog that said, ? These ships focus on maneuverability and overwhelming firepower.?
The main word ?maneuverability? is what really caught my eye, until I read the stats and found the turn rate to be a vanilla plain 16, after reading that and the rest of the stats I saw this as just another cookie cutter ship with the same old numbers that keeps it mix in with the other ships.
I honestly thought that this Warbird would have a slightly better turn rate than the T?varo Retrofit.
Right now I only fly the T?varo Retrofit because of its turn rate and not it design so I was excited to see the upcoming new Warbirds and I love the design but that turn rate its not for me.
I hope that you will put more focus on maneuverability for these Warbirds just like the Blog says.
So you want this to completely overshadow the other Warbirds with the exception of the D'D and Scimitars?
The ship is mediocre because the Romulans are tripping on Tactical Warbirds, I find amusing the people that complain about "power creep" seem the first ones in line for the next OP ... sure the ship simply have no much place at T5, does at T4 since you only have the D'D over there and there is some need of lower tier Warbirds, that is if they sold and if the usual crowd would not be demanding a T5 version as if every damn ship in this game must be at T5 or else no buy.
T4 free and C-Shop version is were this should have been ... its not thanks to you people.
You misunderstand me and ultimatum.
We don't want it to overshadow anything, but at the moment it's placed firmly below the Dhelan, T'Varo and Mogai and the Ha'Feh. It's a gorgeous ship model but it's a pretty useless ship with such a huge vast array of tactical warbirds to choose from.
Power creep is here to stay, we can moan about it but it's essentially PWE's business model. No changing that!
It was never going to be a free ship at T4, they were going to do with it exactly what they did with the fed/rom versions. They both had a T4 and T5 c-store versions.
1) If you can't alpha effectively in a Mogai, you can't alpha effectively in any ship. The combination of Aux2Bat + Marionized DEM capability, more Tac boff seating (Cmd + Lt vs Cmd + Ens) and the inherent power drain resist make the Mogai one of, if not the best, alpha platforms currently ingame.
2) The Dhelan straight up beats the Ar'Kif. Identical hull, identical turn rate, identical console slots, better boff seating, superior shield modifier, and a two piece bonus that doesn't suck. Toss in a fleet Dhelan, and there's absolutely no comparison.
3) I agree that both the Ar'Kif and Ar'Kala are beautiful. That doesn't make it a more effective ship.
Exactly, especially with points 2 and 3. I'm not quite sure I agree with 1, but it's certainly effective. "One of, if not the best alpha platforms" I think is pushing it, quite far.
Forgive me if I missed something,(or don't, I don't care) - but isn't the Ar'Kif superior to the only L30 leveling up ship I can see - the D'Deridex? (Well, not counting the Enterprise C, so there is that...)
I'm just sayin', if I'm reading it right, that looks like a sweet L30-40 ship for a Rom, without spending Zen...
Sorry for the chain posts, this is a reasonable point. It just depends on how you look at it - level 30-40 is only a few hours at most, and having 3 Romulans at L50 - they all kept their Mogai and ignored the D'D - which works fine for me.
Nice to have this though, it is very sexy. I'd probably take this and then keep it to L50 before getting a fleet.. something better. Mogai, Dhelan, Ha'Feh, T'Varo - any of them would be much better. The sad thing is, even if they gave this new ship a fleet version with 5 tac consoles, it still probably wouldn't be worth it over a Dhelan
I love STO,
you give people a free ship many have asked for and people complain,
you give people a ship they can chose to buy and they complain.
:rolleyes:
This is the Romulan Defiant, a ship that has been in game for years and is very popular and you're complaining.
Yeah, my bad for thinking they should fix holes (they admit) in their game without charging us for it.
The point isn't that they're adding ships, it's that they're charging for new ships when they acknowledge there's a lack of these ships. They are the ones who decided to cut corners and not give us enough ships in the first place. But at least they're letting us choose to buy the fix for it, right?
Call me crazy but I think developers should fix a game flaw they admit, without charging the public to get that fix.
Can you equip both the Romulan Quad Plasma cannon and the Federation/Klingon Quad Phaser/Disruptor cannon on the same Romulan ship?
This is highly unlikely since the quad cannon is one per ship and should not make a difference if it is the Romulan version or the UFP/KDF-Allied version.
It would be nice if STO made more quad cannons, not tied to a ship, that could be bought through Dil or Lobi store. This ability would allow for other type of quad cannons in energy types other than Phaser-Disruptor-Plasma. I sure would like an AP quad cannon or my time ship.
yeah sure, this bird seems great, but please, could you make the same (i mean the shape) but this time, a science vessel (lvl 50). I have currently a mirror Ha'nom, but this bird is too big for a science ship. And as sometimes I play also with the ha'apax, and they are almost similar, this is boring.
my wish would be a fed nebula class, but for the romulans :P SCIENCE SHIP please
for my second romulan character, I prefer the retrofited Dhelan, the seats suit better my way of playing
I was really looking forward to this ship releasing, (I love the way it looks, It's beautiful !)
BUT
Why would I buy this ship when the ones I already have perform better? On looks alone? I have to say, looks are enough to tempt me, but they won't seal the deal on an inferior ship.
I'm sorry, in this case, you won't be getting my money.
Some perspective here, if this ship doesn't sell well. it's NOT because Romulan ships don't sell, It will be because inferior Romulan ships don't sell, especially if the one's I have currently are BETTER.
Make this ship competitive with the ones I already have and I'll purchase it in a heartbeat.
So your saying this ship that don't make you happy because its not better and it cant perform well because you don't like it...O_o who says others cant like it .. I like the ship and I will buy it its Decent ship not bad layout if I can make it work... Then again you sound like them people who want only things to make you happy haha .. Sorry man no game is going to make something you only like if some one buys it they buy it .. if they sell some of em they get money due to some buying it so ether way the coin is being tossed. Its like going to the store and buying new pair of sneakers :O you like em or don't
We don't want it to overshadow anything, but at the moment it's placed firmly below the Dhelan, T'Varo and Mogai and the Ha'Feh. It's a gorgeous ship model but it's a pretty useless ship with such a huge vast array of tactical warbirds to choose from.
Power creep is here to stay, we can moan about it but it's essentially PWE's business model. No changing that!
It was never going to be a free ship at T4, they were going to do with it exactly what they did with the fed/rom versions. They both had a T4 and T5 c-store versions.
Sorry I cant say its useless unless its flown bye the right person... Who knows a Good pilot can learn to fit it up right and it will be Deadly.. All you have to do is put some nice console's in it. Put nice shields on it and Hook it up nicely make it work .. So what's the problem O_o cant adapt
Only thing I have to ask is this what about players who had used the Rank up ship tokens prior to the release of these? Seriously those of us who started Romulan characters in Legacy on day one and used our tokens to get ships we needed from the limited choices we had, are forced to spend dilith on a class that every other faction had way earlier. Not really complaining that much but a discount for Characters created the first month of the Legacy release and are at Rank 50 now would be nice.
Certainly isn't rocket science to add another Engineering Console slot, 2% more hull and slap the word "Fleet" in front of it.
Basically, any brand new ship that is released that doesn't have the now standard ten console setup option is not worth our time and our money..
Even the butt ugly Dhelan Warbird has a ten console version..
It's pretty funny that you guys wrote this whole backstory about how the Romulans needed to design a newer ship to face today's problems, yet left it out of the fleet build, thus making it worse than all the old ships the Romulans are already using.. :rolleyes:
Starting to think half our devs came from the Trion layoffs..
You know Cryptic has Jumped the Proverbial Shark when they introduced Tractor Pulling to Star Trek Online!
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Ok, mr. snarkypants
Since you apparently didn't even read the thread you are commenting on, probably because you are either too lazy, or are just in a real rush to try and prove something to yourself, I'm going to repost my feedback here for you.
What I find interesting is, is when people who don't read threads, don't read the numerous bits of feed back from multiple players all saying the same thing, can somehow still manage to construe that as ME wanting the devs to bow to my "demands".
Next time, try actually reading before you pretend you know what you are talking about.
Well I'm glad that even after all this time you're still willing to insult me at the drop of a hat. It makes me feel like I did Garak levels of ego damage, I'm flattered.
1) I didn't say the Mogai can't alpha well, your reading comprehension needs some work. The AR ship can match the DEM and Aux2bat capabilities of the Mogai, so I don't know why you mentioned them. You re also incorrect about either ship having an ens tac boff. The fact of the matter is that the AR has more alpha options, and is thus better in that regard.
2) I never mentioned the Dhelan, my post was about how the Mogai will be obsolete after this thing gets a fleet variant.
3) I never implied looks made it a better ship functionally, at least we agreed on something for once.
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It is Romulan and suffers from the disadvantages that all Romulan ships do. Power being the chief among these. The other ships all posses a basic Engie, Sci minimum that allows for standard builds and tactics to work. Unfortunately this ship drops that at the Level 30 Variant. Take a look it drops it's Lt for some reason to Ens... I do not get that. That is what cripples it. It then has less damage then a Defiant in exchange for 1 more heal. It also looses in category of Console usefulness, but that is for another Debate.
Pretty much what they are not getting is that these ships are just meant to fill a void where you pretty much just have a d'deridex so if you want something that is more forgiving when turning while decloaked they could use this. Then the only thing after you hit 50 with it is the quad cannon/set. Although it looks cool but for the most part its just another console set which I do wonder why after so much time pointing out how the federation was leaving the KDF in the dust with the vesta, sovy refit, armitage, and kumari mold that they then learn nothing from their mistakes and start making these sets leaving the federation and the kdf behind.
I don't think its crippled in any way but I do see where someone could get the idea if you throw dirt on something a little bit at a time eventually you are going to bury it.
So I guess the logic was to fix the flaw in the game (lack of ships) by selling said fix to people.
Really, you shouldn't be charging for the things needed to fix corners cut by design.
Cryptic, I really have to agree.
I was really looking forward to this ship releasing, (I love the way it looks, It's beautiful !)
BUT
Why would I buy this ship when the ones I already have perform better? On looks alone? I have to say, looks are enough to tempt me, but they won't seal the deal on an inferior ship.
I'm sorry, in this case, you won't be getting my money.
Some perspective here, if this ship doesn't sell well. it's NOT because Romulan ships don't sell, It will be because inferior Romulan ships don't sell, especially if the one's I have currently are BETTER.
Make this ship competitive with the ones I already have and I'll purchase it in a heartbeat.
Can your usual passive aggressive bull**** please. I disagreed with you, and I pointed out why. If you want to insert your own inferiority complex into that equation and play the victim card when presented with a counterpoint, that's your decision.
Incorrect. The Ar'kif cannot run an Aux2Bat build while carrying DEM. It has two non-ensign engineering slots (both on the Uni LC seat). You can't fit two Aux2bats and a DEM into that.
That means one Marionized Alpha every two minutes, instead of one every 45 seconds like the Mogai can pull off. Add in the inherent energy drain resist from the Mogai two-piece, and I have absolutely no idea how you're coming to the conclusion that the Ar'Kif can drop an alpha better.
That depends entirely on what the fleet version does. Resilience-wise the Mogai is still going to outplay it (Fleet Mogai has nearly fleet cruiser levels of resistance, hull and shields. At best a fleet Ar'kif is going to have fleet escort toughness).
If a fleet Ar'Kif has something similar to the Temporal Destroyer in terms of boff seating there will be a place for it. If not, it's going to be a watered down version of the Dhelan.
Honestly, I don't see Cryptic effectively killing the sale of a Lobi ship for the sake of a C-Store ship.
Heres a tip, design a warbird that reminds us of a Lamborgini Aventador, THEN I may be tempted to roll a 2nd Romulan toon just for that.
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I love STO,
you give people a free ship many have asked for and people complain,
you give people a ship they can chose to buy and they complain.
:rolleyes:
This is the Romulan Defiant, a ship that has been in game for years and is very popular and you're complaining.
The main word ?maneuverability? is what really caught my eye, until I read the stats and found the turn rate to be a vanilla plain 16, after reading that and the rest of the stats I saw this as just another cookie cutter ship with the same old numbers that keeps it mix in with the other ships.
I honestly thought that this Warbird would have a slightly better turn rate than the T?varo Retrofit.
Right now I only fly the T?varo Retrofit because of its turn rate and not it design so I was excited to see the upcoming new Warbirds and I love the design but that turn rate its not for me.
I hope that you will put more focus on maneuverability for these Warbirds just like the Blog says.
You misunderstand me and ultimatum.
We don't want it to overshadow anything, but at the moment it's placed firmly below the Dhelan, T'Varo and Mogai and the Ha'Feh. It's a gorgeous ship model but it's a pretty useless ship with such a huge vast array of tactical warbirds to choose from.
Power creep is here to stay, we can moan about it but it's essentially PWE's business model. No changing that!
It was never going to be a free ship at T4, they were going to do with it exactly what they did with the fed/rom versions. They both had a T4 and T5 c-store versions.
Kirk's Protege.
Exactly, especially with points 2 and 3. I'm not quite sure I agree with 1, but it's certainly effective. "One of, if not the best alpha platforms" I think is pushing it, quite far.
Kirk's Protege.
If Bran wont answer, does anyone else know? Maybe someone who has seen the ship on Tribble?
Sorry for the chain posts, this is a reasonable point. It just depends on how you look at it - level 30-40 is only a few hours at most, and having 3 Romulans at L50 - they all kept their Mogai and ignored the D'D - which works fine for me.
Nice to have this though, it is very sexy. I'd probably take this and then keep it to L50 before getting a fleet.. something better. Mogai, Dhelan, Ha'Feh, T'Varo - any of them would be much better. The sad thing is, even if they gave this new ship a fleet version with 5 tac consoles, it still probably wouldn't be worth it over a Dhelan
Kirk's Protege.
Yeah, my bad for thinking they should fix holes (they admit) in their game without charging us for it.
The point isn't that they're adding ships, it's that they're charging for new ships when they acknowledge there's a lack of these ships. They are the ones who decided to cut corners and not give us enough ships in the first place. But at least they're letting us choose to buy the fix for it, right?
Call me crazy but I think developers should fix a game flaw they admit, without charging the public to get that fix.
This is highly unlikely since the quad cannon is one per ship and should not make a difference if it is the Romulan version or the UFP/KDF-Allied version.
It would be nice if STO made more quad cannons, not tied to a ship, that could be bought through Dil or Lobi store. This ability would allow for other type of quad cannons in energy types other than Phaser-Disruptor-Plasma. I sure would like an AP quad cannon or my time ship.
my wish would be a fed nebula class, but for the romulans :P SCIENCE SHIP please
for my second romulan character, I prefer the retrofited Dhelan, the seats suit better my way of playing
So your saying this ship that don't make you happy because its not better and it cant perform well because you don't like it...O_o who says others cant like it .. I like the ship and I will buy it its Decent ship not bad layout if I can make it work... Then again you sound like them people who want only things to make you happy haha .. Sorry man no game is going to make something you only like if some one buys it they buy it ..
Sorry I cant say its useless unless its flown bye the right person... Who knows a Good pilot can learn to fit it up right and it will be Deadly.. All you have to do is put some nice console's in it. Put nice shields on it and Hook it up nicely make it work .. So what's the problem O_o cant adapt
Basically, any brand new ship that is released that doesn't have the now standard ten console setup option is not worth our time and our money..
Even the butt ugly Dhelan Warbird has a ten console version..
It's pretty funny that you guys wrote this whole backstory about how the Romulans needed to design a newer ship to face today's problems, yet left it out of the fleet build, thus making it worse than all the old ships the Romulans are already using.. :rolleyes:
Starting to think half our devs came from the Trion layoffs..