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An Engineering-focused Federation Galactic Exploration Mothership

khayuungkhayuung Member Posts: 1,877 Arc User
edited September 2013 in Federation Discussion
Original and new class design that is almost "flying starbase" HUGE, within game engine limits of course, and looks like something the Federation would build. Maybe even a "step between Odyssey and Universe".
7 weapons. Cannot load cannons.
Comm Eng, LtComm Sci, Lt Eng, Lt Tac, Ens Sci.
5 turn, 20 inertia.
2 hangar slots
Launches Centaur frigates
4 eng/3 sci/3 tac consoles

>Centaur frigates have Eng Team, Sensor Scan, TSS, phaser arrays, point defense turrets, photon torpedoes

I think this kind of frigate design makes sense for the Federation. Not some super-dps-y ripoff other players love to pile on us. We've got the best tactically focused carrier in the game! Don't need another one! Instead, give us something with more Eng!! Then, the Feds have carriers of all flavors.

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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,016 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    I'd vote "no".

    These carrier superlatives have to stop somewhere. Why would the federation build something like that? For what purpose? I'd rather see actual Star Trek ships implemented or the existing ones being taken care of.

    Besides, the Centaur type is not a frigate. It is a "cruiser", bigger than the Miranda which is also a cruiser and no frigate. And both are fully spaceworthy ships on their own, why would you want to "carry" them? It all makes no sense :(
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  • sander233sander233 Member Posts: 3,992 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    I wouldn't mind seeing something like this.

    Hell, call it the Jupiter-class (with an all-new model) and shut those crazies up.
    angrytarg wrote: »
    Besides, the Centaur type is not a frigate. It is a "cruiser", bigger than the Miranda which is also a cruiser and no frigate. And both are fully spaceworthy ships on their own, why would you want to "carry" them? It all makes no sense :(

    Ahem.
    Frigates (also known as Corvettes or Light Cruisers) are small, maneuverable vessels used by almost every faction...

    A Federation Miranda-class Frigate
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  • dknight0001dknight0001 Member Posts: 1,542
    edited September 2013
    Both Miranda and Centaur are called Frigates in game.
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  • capnshadow27capnshadow27 Member Posts: 1,731 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Please not another one. Dont we have enough big, slow, lumbering engineer ships?

    Centaurs really?

    Unless the ship is the size of a star destroyer (which a good portion of our ships would fit in) No corevettes or light cruisers. for those that dont know a Star Destroyer is 1,600 meters long by 1,015 Meters wide.

    So next we have the rebel corvette coming in at 150 meters long. Just fits into that big old bay.

    The sovereign (by an average, that average being stats from a gillilion places) is about 685Meters long, 250 Meters wide, and 88 Meters tall.

    Centaur and miranda, is between 167 Meters and 234.9 Meters. So to hold JUST ONE the ship would have to outsize EVERYTHING in out fleet.

    You want it go for it. Give it a turn rate of 1 and an inertia rating of 80-100. Beacuse to balance that gaping weak point the superstructure of the ship (chassis if you will) would have to be massively reinforced around 1 bay AND YOU WANT TO GIVE IT TWO!

    get one, go into Kerrat become target practice for EVERYTHING.:cool:
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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,016 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Okay, I didn't know that. Doesn't make the least bit of sense :D

    http://www.suricatafx.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/STOshiptierchart_wip.jpg

    Then I'd say the ship should carry Constitution class cruisers as well :)
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  • capnshadow27capnshadow27 Member Posts: 1,731 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    dknight0001 wrote: »
    Both Miranda and Centaur are called Frigates in game.

    That they are. That they are.
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  • capnshadow27capnshadow27 Member Posts: 1,731 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    angrytarg wrote: »
    Okay, I didn't know that. Doesn't make the least bit of sense :D

    http://www.suricatafx.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/STOshiptierchart_wip.jpg

    Then I'd say the ship should carry Constitution class cruisers as well :)

    Funny how alittle diggin on the old interwebs can provide you with a lot of information.

    Even the Defiant which is never truly stated for length ranges from 80 Meters to 150 Meters.

    I just wish people would do a hair more research before they ask for certain things.

    But then you would get people flipping about how the refit sovereign had 16 phasers, 1 quantum and like 8 photons. :D
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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,016 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    capnshadow27 wrote: »
    Funny how alittle diggin on the old interwebs can provide you with a lot of information.

    Even the Defiant which is never truly stated for length ranges from 80 Meters to 150 Meters.

    I just wish people would do a hair more research before they ask for certain things.

    But then you would get people flipping about how the refit sovereign had 16 phasers, 1 quantum and like 8 photons. :D

    Well, weaponry is one thing but the game did get the size differences approximately right (with the esception of actual "frigates" and shuttles being enlarged for aestethic purposes). It doesn't even work with the ingame sizes :D It should be basic to associate that a Miranda class uses a Constitutions saucer and nacelles. Even without the secondary hull carrying that ship around makes no friggin sense. I have a blueprint poster of the Miranda (actually the USS Reliant) that says it's supposed to be 277x172x74 meters. Like you said, I think people simply want an "Executor" class star Destroyer :D
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    "A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
    "That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
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  • jetwtfjetwtf Member Posts: 1,207
    edited September 2013
    capnshadow27 wrote: »
    Funny how alittle diggin on the old interwebs can provide you with a lot of information.

    Even the Defiant which is never truly stated for length ranges from 80 Meters to 150 Meters.

    I just wish people would do a hair more research before they ask for certain things.

    But then you would get people flipping about how the refit sovereign had 16 phasers, 1 quantum and like 8 photons. :D

    It would be expensive to outfit it but i wouldnt have an issue with ships having the amount of weapons they are supposed to.

    OT: I wouldnt hav an issue with a carrier than can carry 2 frigates. the more variety of ships the better.
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  • capnshadow27capnshadow27 Member Posts: 1,731 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    angrytarg wrote: »
    Well, weaponry is one thing but the game did get the size differences approximately right (with the esception of actual "frigates" and shuttles being enlarged for aestethic purposes). It doesn't even work with the ingame sizes :D It should be basic to associate that a Miranda class uses a Constitutions saucer and nacelles. Even without the secondary hull carrying that ship around makes no friggin sense. I have a blueprint poster of the Miranda (actually the USS Reliant) that says it's supposed to be 277x172x74 meters. Like you said, I think people simply want an "Executor" class star Destroyer :D

    Nah man, They want a Death star not a Super Star Destroyer. Personally i would take an Eclipse with its mini death star beam on the front :D Maybe the new Gal-X:eek:
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  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    OP, you completely lost me at "HUGE flying starbase".
    Like we really need another new patch of Scimitars around or something bigger. :rolleyes:
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  • misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    One of the reasons the Enterprise-J was nixed was its size.
    Same would apply to a mobile base.

    I don't think there's a need to say anything else.
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