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Can We Have The Federation and Empire Be Allies?
blagorm
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Now now now.... I KNOW It sounds RIDICULOUS>.. But listen here.... how I think it will benefit the game:
PvE Queues Will Be Easier To Use, Being All Cross Factional
Teaming Is Not Restricted Faction Wise
PvP Still Is Available, It Would Be Friendly Simulations
Free Travel to All Systems In Other Faction's Territory
QUICK NOTES:
KDF And FED Will NOT Be Able TO Buy The Other Faction's Ships
ROM Has No Change In This
Faction-Specific Missions AREN'T Share-able, But The Opposing Faction Can Still JOIN Them On The Missions
Ill Think of more later... but what do YOU think?
PvE Queues Will Be Easier To Use, Being All Cross Factional
Teaming Is Not Restricted Faction Wise
PvP Still Is Available, It Would Be Friendly Simulations
Free Travel to All Systems In Other Faction's Territory
QUICK NOTES:
KDF And FED Will NOT Be Able TO Buy The Other Faction's Ships
ROM Has No Change In This
Faction-Specific Missions AREN'T Share-able, But The Opposing Faction Can Still JOIN Them On The Missions
Ill Think of more later... but what do YOU think?
R'tolves Will Spread Thier Peace and Will Prevail Over the Hostiles Who Dare Hurt Such A Isolationist Consitutional Monarchy!
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1) Due to the storylines.
2) There would be a lack of an opposing force faction between the two.
But I do think a formal end to the fighting could lead to future storyline potential when Cryptic decides to move the timeline into 2410 and beyond. Where the Borg invasion, the revealing of the Undine intervention, the founding of the Romulan Republic, and the discovery that the Iconians are still around, could lead to a formal peace treaty.
And on the KDF side, could lead to an interesting political storyline with the growing tension between the House of Martok and the House of J'mpok, as well as what's left of the House of B'vat and Torg. Then in the confusion, the Gorn rebelling to regain their own sovereignty. And of course whatever schemes Melani D'ian is planning with the Orion Syndicate.
"There... are... four... lights!" ~Jean Luc Picard
Then we can rewrite some of the STFs such as starbase 24 to be either a hologram program in history lessons or just leave it as it is.
The storyline could be that after the undine, certain starfleet officers and klingon warriors align with the house of martok and assassinate J'pet. The Feds would be working for section 31 and the klingons would just join the house of martok and eventually work their way to challenge J'pet in a duel.
That would be fantastic. I would totally flt there flagged for PvP and havea good old fashioned stand off.
If you fly in flagged and get blown up you are transported to the station and unflagged. Then when you beam out you go right to sector.
I am Il Shadow and i approve these Shennanigans!
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Along the lines of what I said, they should just throw together a story mission or two to officially explain what ended the war and be done with it. can keep the pvp as more of a side, friendly dual sorta thing and be done with it, because the time line explains what started the war and the Klingon war story missions keep it going, but once you get past those missions the war basically drops off the map and you end up with cross faction stuff fighting the borg, tholians, elachi, and everything else they add together.
Oh dear Lord are you even aware how many mistakes and nonsences you managed to squeeze in only 2 sentences?
As the devs love DS9, I think there are some examples they can already pool from if needed.
How about if every life form in the universe all let out one collective TRIBBLE which ruptured the fabric of space and time and ....oh wait, nevermind. that would be my idea for end game content should they ever decide to shut down STO
I like your sarcasm though! I just think we should have a storyline that ends the war completely and installs someone else on the high council, establishing a peace treaty and solely a military alliance.
If Gorn Rebel, might as well ally them with a different faction, and ALLOW Gorn to go from KDF > _________
THEN... in some case... that Gorn and _______ Faction will be a big threat (E.G.: Borg + Gorn Was Bad. Imagine Others) and the Empire/Federation have to ally to lower the problem.
And since that'd sour my mood a bit, and the only reason they'd do it would be to appease some Klingon players (who supposedly have no tearducts, but could've fooled me) if they were to do something like that, I feel the narrative should reflect the reason. So no black ops, no isolinear chips with plot-shattering revelations, no sappy Enterprise-C at Narendra-esque reproachement: The Klingons got tired of fighting. They don't wanna anymore. So go back home, bathe for qeylIS' sake, learn to tolerate Vulcans and fill out your Federation membership application card like a good little failed empire, or don't, but if you're going to be a backwater civilization stewing over its lost glory, do it quietly.
I know, the Federation's supposed to be all about peaceful solutions, but really, KDF: Fool me once...
Colonel West was right.
The Begining of the game at the low levels is about the the war because.....
The feds have not earned it nor are they free of thier undine subversives as far as the Empire knows.
The middle of the game is not free of the war becuase the player is meant to be the lone rational character starting to piece the whole story together as to why the war exists.
The Endgame content is only cooperative due to the big picture of the why of the war being fully known to the player. Thus we have wartime allies against the greater foes.
The thing is that the whole quadrant is in chaos cuased by the Iconians manipulating things and only a small group of heroes (us players) know the truth. The bulk of the powers that be are still well fooled by the events that have the quadrant in chaos and have not seen the bigger picture.
Besides if you read this post above this one it should make you wonder why any KdF fan worth his salt would want to join such a hypocritical hissy fit sort of alliance? Seriuosly, why join a group that speaks peace, acceptance and understanding yet belittles those whom do not bow and scrape at thier self lauded greatness. Better die on ones feet a free sentient than bow to such two-faced beings as the cultist followers of the fool West.
R.I.P
"There... are... four... lights!" ~Jean Luc Picard
No thanks.
No peace in our time.
Don't want my KDF or Romulans on the same side as Feds.
Story-wise, there's no reason the KDF should trust Feds to stop the Undine since they sat on their rears while the Klingons hunted them down. Feds use words to understand their enemies. KDF use weapons to make their enemies understand THEM.
Now get back on Fed side while I wait for thread number 1000 asking for this very same thing.
:rolleyes:
I'm sure they would still be separate factions but since neither one is actually "Bad" there would be no issue with new teamed queues.
PVP could be tossed off as "Final embers of the war" or war game scenarios.
The unified content would likely be behind a content unlock gate (you have to complete certain missions to get to the new unified zones).
I hope it happens sooner rather than later as there are KDF players I'd love to be able to party up with for more than just STF's and Azure Nebula.
Now that conflict full of potential drama and excitement takes a back seat to a nebulous and poorly thought out menace ...the Collectors ... err I mean the Reapers ... darn I meant the Iconians.
- Judge Aaron Satie
Bah. People use that as an excuse to be pricks to each other than say "I'm just RPing!" like that makes it okay to be a jerk. We're all players and this 'factionalism' is nonsense, cosmetic differences. The sooner it goes away, the better.
What game are you playing please tell me because i would love to experience the conflict you speak of.
The KDF are not the bad guy in this game, they just have a different opinion on how to handle things then the Federation. Apparently that does not matter because there is no war. Helping make New Romulus a better place, helping with the True way, helping with the Borg, the Dominion...yeah Major conflict my god, if all wars were like this we have world peace .
if Cryptic did make a FE where the war ended the only thing would change is Nothing because that's how it is now, maybe the Fed and KDF can visit their home systems, but besides that nothing would change...Hell even PVP is a War game between KDF and FEDS.
There is no War just two stubborn factions helping each other out, and saying they are enemies to please their constituents , but they are really each others biggest allies, and biggest trading partner.:P
Not to mention the KDF just had a Vacation on a Federation world.
This and This and my Favorite were good use of the Klingons, making them the mustache twirling villain again is going backwards, not forwards, where all Trek should go.
Also I do not see how it will have a negative impact on PvP as it is or as it develops. To have a ladder/scoring system or a special PvP currency for PvP equip a fractions at war background is not required.
Slightly realted: How much % Fed-Fed PvP do you think is going on in overall PvP?
This. And I would wager that the majority of PvP is FvF. It has been ever since it was introduced. Granted I have no hard evidence to back that up but I remember how the KDF howled that FvF has made PvP, and back then leveling, near impossible to actually get a queue to pop.
The "war" will end. Either in Federation victory or a peace accord of some kind, which is still a Federation victory since they enjoy using words to solve issues. The Federation has yet to lose a war. This will be no different.
At the end of the day they will not merge the factions as allies because it would take too much time to do, and time is money. should they? well they should add storyline to end the war and begin an uneasy peace between both, then add a real villian faction that would rather conquer than ally with. but that wont happen.
"I'm drunk, whats your excuse for being an idiot?" - Unknown drunk man. :eek:
The USA is not at war with the USSR as there is no USSR anymore and the now Russia is a member of the G20.
I don't see why the peace accords can't renewed abivouse the Klingon Empire will be running out of resources.It is why they singed both singed the accords because the klingon Empire had 50 years of life left and that was in 2298 or so.It is well pass that and the Klingon Empire was doing fine with trade relations with the Federation.
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And yes, there is a general difference in the players depending on the faction. KDF players tend to be much more team-oriented, where as Fed players tend to be more like armchair Picards who want to solo team-based missions or PvP, yet turn tail as soon as things don't go their way or send "haxx" tells when they lose badly. Or even better - angry QQ "tells" followed by "ignore" so you can't respond to them.
I like being in a faction separate from most of those types of players and have been deleting many of my Fed alts to make new KDF, or KDF-allied Romulans.
:rolleyes:
This has been discovered yet the war cotinues.
Come on. The Romulans should have been their own faction, not to mention both the kilngons and the feds put aside their war to assist them.
To be honest Some random race should have been the ones we all went to war with.
I like two faction conflict, I don't really PvP as i get RoflStomped everytime and thats not as fun for me so i grind in PvE. Outside of a few specific PvE Q's most enemies are randomly selected.
What i want to know is...
How did the damn hirogen get here?
Who is Fek'Ihri Horde?
Where did the Xindi go?
How did joker get those scars?
Where is the Tal Shiar for an enemy?
Why are the Tholians enemies?
Why doesn't Q show up more often to mess with us?
And lastly
Why can i not have a Tribble launcher? Seriously why are we not funding that?
I am Il Shadow and i approve these Shennanigans!
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