As is always the case to getting it... work hard, save your money, and marry well.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
The problem is that the set features: ship interiors, bridge, costumes, weapons, etc are a huge part of any show's initial budget. Those costs are usually displaced over a 13-24 episode season - and hopefully several additional seasons as well. It's hard to recoup those costs on 2 hour TV movies.
For example, the first season of Defiance was budgeted for $40 million, but it's estimated that nearly half the original cost was set design for the city, set interiors, vehicles, weapons, makeup and clothing for all the species, etc. Season 2 of Defiance is coming it at around $25 million - an average of $2 million per episode - because most of the set costs are nonexistent for season 2.
For Trek to work on TV they need to get enough episodes out of the sets per season to justify their costs.
It's not like they would need a whole lot of new sets each time, plus with CGI, they could potentially "fudge" some aspects. Maybe he should shoot for an animated version instead.
Actually an idea that may work would be a series set onboard a Wells and could be called Star Trek: Temporal Incursions. With technology as it is right now there would be scope to interact with all past ST series, just like the DS9 episode Trials and Tribbleations
I support this idea. It both provides a huge degree of creative writing flexibility and pushes the Star Trek universe forwards instead of backwards or sideways.
As for set, costume, and character costs, a way to minimize these would be to follow a number of temporal agents on long-term assignments(like, for instance, serving aboard the Enterprise NX or running into Voyager), essentially creating multiple stories within the major plot line. These stories could tie into each other through being in the same place through different eras or connecting to some over-arching temporal conspiracy.
Anyway, that's just my idea for a future Star Trek TV or Netflix show.
I support this idea. It both provides a huge degree of creative writing flexibility and pushes the Star Trek universe forwards instead of backwards or sideways.
As for set, costume, and character costs, a way to minimize these would be to follow a number of temporal agents on long-term assignments(like, for instance, serving aboard the Enterprise NX or running into Voyager), essentially creating multiple stories within the major plot line. These stories could tie into each other through being in the same place through different eras or connecting to some over-arching temporal conspiracy.
Anyway, that's just my idea for a future Star Trek TV or Netflix show.
I like what your saying. You could have one massive plotline throughout an entire season starting with Archer that follows onto Kirk that follows onto Picard, which has repercussions for DS9, and follows through to Voyager, and the outcome is not revealed until the first episode of Season 2.
Thinking of that though that would also make for a great Season (or feature episodes) here on STO. It could start with Archer in The Delphic Expanse and NOT winning against The Xindi, So Kirk's timeline is altered to where the Xindi are still a threat, and so forth
I am just having a hard time seeing this TV series Idea getting the green light.. Not only because of the JJ Abrams Movies, but because I have a hard time seeing Worf as a Central Character commanding his own ship during peace times.
The only way I could see it working is if perhaps he is on the Defiant before the movie where he got it blown up and its more about his duties there during that peroid of time.. But even that doesn't feel right.
And even if it were more about the Klingon Empire, I'm not sure how many seasons such a show could run, because as interesting as the Klingons are, I don't think a show could last very long out side of specific demographics.
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Think about this: American Football has been in open beta for 144 years. ~Kotaku
The problem is that the set features: ship interiors, bridge, costumes, weapons, etc are a huge part of any show's initial budget. Those costs are usually displaced over a 13-24 episode season - and hopefully several additional seasons as well. It's hard to recoup those costs on 2 hour TV movies.
For example, the first season of Defiance was budgeted for $40 million, but it's estimated that nearly half the original cost was set design for the city, set interiors, vehicles, weapons, makeup and clothing for all the species, etc. Season 2 of Defiance is coming it at around $25 million - an average of $2 million per episode - because most of the set costs are nonexistent for season 2.
For Trek to work on TV they need to get enough episodes out of the sets per season to justify their costs.
Well, the reimagined BSG started out as a mini-series, and later made it as a full-featured series.
Well, the reimagined BSG started out as a mini-series, and later made it as a full-featured series.
Life was very different in 2004. The world wasn't in a global recession and NBC wasn't undergoing a severe financial crisis due to poorly received TV series on their mother network. In fact in 2004 NBC was the highest rated network in the coveted 18-49 bracket.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
Oh and a competent set of writers and directors / producers.
You're asking too much now. 5 Trek series never had that.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
Get the raw footage from Assignment Earth. Trials and Tribbleations greenscreen new actors as Isis and Gary.
Shoot on location in modern cities and studio lots. No more sets than are needed for Mad Men. Even fewer sets needed if you get Gary up to 2015. There's stuff you can borrow from all series. Get Mulgrew back as Janeway's ancestor again, etc.
Setup a Cardassian or a Romulan running around modern day earth, up against Gary Seven.
It'd be Star Trek meets James Bond by way of Arrow. You retain phaser effects and such which are cheaper to do now but with modern day sets and most people in no special costumes or makeup, it makes more budget sense.
Plus, he could always yank Worf or Tucker or practically any mix back to assist him present day and you could have something of an Angel or The Wire dynamic. Gary Seven leads a crossgenerational team of Trek characters on 21st century earth.
And like how Enterprise used restored/remade TOS sets, you could always have them visit the future by renting a fan restored set like the one from the Enterprise-D project.
I don't see a trek show lasting long enough to hit it's stride. Ever hear of a little show called the X Files? The show had terrible ratings it's first season or two. Then Fox kept renewing it and it became a smash. A show like the X files would NEVER survive in the current environment of tv. For that matter, neither would Star Trek TNG. They'd both be cancelled before concluding their very first season. No network is willing to stick it out with shows still getting their footing and building towards accumulating some momentum. If a show doesn't positively rocket out of the gate and keep that pace going, it will likely get the axe after only 3-4 episodes. This just ain't happening.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
I rather see Riker...but none of that fan fiction looking TRIBBLE.
Yeah I saw the first one Koenig and Russ did gods and men it was okay but if this new project of theirs looks as TRIBBLE quality that was used for their first one I don't think the renegades will make it very far. Only thing they had going is the experience acting in a series if it was anyone else in it would be complete TRIBBLE lol.
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I support this idea. It both provides a huge degree of creative writing flexibility and pushes the Star Trek universe forwards instead of backwards or sideways.
As for set, costume, and character costs, a way to minimize these would be to follow a number of temporal agents on long-term assignments(like, for instance, serving aboard the Enterprise NX or running into Voyager), essentially creating multiple stories within the major plot line. These stories could tie into each other through being in the same place through different eras or connecting to some over-arching temporal conspiracy.
Anyway, that's just my idea for a future Star Trek TV or Netflix show.
intriguing concept.... 'A Netflix Original' has been producing some really good quality shows as of late.
I would definitely be interested. :cool:
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I like what your saying. You could have one massive plotline throughout an entire season starting with Archer that follows onto Kirk that follows onto Picard, which has repercussions for DS9, and follows through to Voyager, and the outcome is not revealed until the first episode of Season 2.
Thinking of that though that would also make for a great Season (or feature episodes) here on STO. It could start with Archer in The Delphic Expanse and NOT winning against The Xindi, So Kirk's timeline is altered to where the Xindi are still a threat, and so forth
The only way I could see it working is if perhaps he is on the Defiant before the movie where he got it blown up and its more about his duties there during that peroid of time.. But even that doesn't feel right.
And even if it were more about the Klingon Empire, I'm not sure how many seasons such a show could run, because as interesting as the Klingons are, I don't think a show could last very long out side of specific demographics.
Think about this:
American Football has been in open beta for 144 years. ~Kotaku
Well, the reimagined BSG started out as a mini-series, and later made it as a full-featured series.
But not with Richard Hatch and Dirk Benedict reprising their roles
Prime Universe.
New ship.
New Crew.
Set AFTER Nemesis, but to be honest, not Time travel ****, we already got Dr bloody Who.
Oh and a competent set of writers and directors / producers.
I hope STO get's better ...
I'd be looking at Gary Seven.
Get the raw footage from Assignment Earth. Trials and Tribbleations greenscreen new actors as Isis and Gary.
Shoot on location in modern cities and studio lots. No more sets than are needed for Mad Men. Even fewer sets needed if you get Gary up to 2015. There's stuff you can borrow from all series. Get Mulgrew back as Janeway's ancestor again, etc.
Setup a Cardassian or a Romulan running around modern day earth, up against Gary Seven.
It'd be Star Trek meets James Bond by way of Arrow. You retain phaser effects and such which are cheaper to do now but with modern day sets and most people in no special costumes or makeup, it makes more budget sense.
Plus, he could always yank Worf or Tucker or practically any mix back to assist him present day and you could have something of an Angel or The Wire dynamic. Gary Seven leads a crossgenerational team of Trek characters on 21st century earth.
And like how Enterprise used restored/remade TOS sets, you could always have them visit the future by renting a fan restored set like the one from the Enterprise-D project.
Not words we like seeing together :mad:.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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who is "we"?
I hate the stories after Dr 10 downing street regenerated!
But also, I am ... to be honest, jealous of how Dr Who turned out, and the BBC because there kind and nice.
I hope STO get's better ...
Yeah I saw the first one Koenig and Russ did gods and men it was okay but if this new project of theirs looks as TRIBBLE quality that was used for their first one I don't think the renegades will make it very far. Only thing they had going is the experience acting in a series if it was anyone else in it would be complete TRIBBLE lol.