Get off your high horse, stop crying a river of tears. I've been here over a year and I have a KDF toon: im well aware of the complaints and that old wiki page.
My problem here is people whining about freebies. Its pathetic.
We must question the story logic of having an all-knowing all-powerful God, who creates faulty Humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes. - Gene Roddenberry
both are real in this game... hence why I said virtual
When the KDF pulls money in like the Federation, or the Romulans then Cryptic will give them everything they want, but unfortunately they don't which is why the Feds get more stuff.
It's not about them hating the KDF it's just about money
When the KDF pulls money in like the Federation, or the Romulans then Cryptic will give them everything they want, but unfortunately they don't which is why the Feds get more stuff.
It's not about them hating the KDF it's just about money
Exactly. As i've said: more people want to be Kirk/Janeway/Sisko/Picard/Archer than Gowron or the Duras sisters.
We must question the story logic of having an all-knowing all-powerful God, who creates faulty Humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes. - Gene Roddenberry
When the KDF pulls money in like the Federation, or the Romulans then Cryptic will give them everything they want, but unfortunately they don't which is why the Feds get more stuff.
It's not about them hating the KDF it's just about money
so since there are so few players.. cryptic isn't out as much money as they are with the feds with this giveaway.. is that what you are saying? And me as a character have put in more money into this game than you possibly could have in 1 year. I'm a KDF
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so since there are so few players.. cryptic isn't out as much money as they are with the feds with this giveaway.. is that what you are saying? And me as a character have put in more money into this game than you possibly could have in 1 year. I'm a KDF
No he is saying the KDF dont have an abundance of content [atleast not on par with FED] because they have nowhere near the playerbase.
Your personal investment does not change that. That elitist attitude changes nothing.
We must question the story logic of having an all-knowing all-powerful God, who creates faulty Humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes. - Gene Roddenberry
When the KDF pulls money in like the Federation, or the Romulans then Cryptic will give them everything they want, but unfortunately they don't which is why the Feds get more stuff.
It's not about them hating the KDF it's just about money
If Klingons got more attention in the game more people would play on the Klingon side and spend money on them.
Get off your high horse, stop crying a river of tears. I've been here over a year and I have a KDF toon: im well aware of the complaints and that old wiki page.
My problem here is people whining about freebies. Its pathetic.
you got yours, so you are OK
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YOU ARE GOING TO GET YOURS TOMORROW, THURSDAY OR FRIDAY.
This isn't warp theory here.
We must question the story logic of having an all-knowing all-powerful God, who creates faulty Humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes. - Gene Roddenberry
No he is saying the KDF dont have an abundance of content [atleast not on par with FED] because they have nowhere near the playerbase.
Your personal investment does not change that. That elitist attitude changes nothing.
your moral high-ground astonishes me. KDF doesn't have the player base because Cryptic never nurtured it. There were equal numbers of Klingons in the beginning.. we all built our feds to level 21 which was the minimum fed level needed to start a klingon.
they left because they were being treated unfairly, hence, the low numbers of today.
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your moral high-ground astonishes me. KDF doesn't have the player base because Cryptic never nurtured it. There were equal numbers of Klingons in the beginning.. we all built our feds to level 21 which was the minimum fed level needed to start a klingon.
they left because they were being treated unfairly, hence, the low numbers of today.
your moral high-ground astonishes me. KDF doesn't have the player base because Cryptic never nurtured it. There were equal numbers of Klingons in the beginning.. they left because they were being treated unfairly, hence, the low numbers of today.
I agree with you on the part I have highlighted. I dont have a moral highground im simply trying to use logic and reason against you. The 'equal number' part I do find debatable, i'd need to see some hard, offical facts backing that up.
My main is FED, my second is KDF. I see no problem with a free give away. How some people can turn such a cool thing into something so negative is beyond me.
We must question the story logic of having an all-knowing all-powerful God, who creates faulty Humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes. - Gene Roddenberry
I agree with you on the part I have highlighted. I dont have a moral highground im simply trying to use logic and reason against you. The 'equal number' part I do find debatable, i'd need to see some hard, offical facts backing that up.
My main is FED, my second is KDF. I see no problem with a free give away. How some people can turn such a cool thing into something so negative is beyond me.
historical patterned behavior that KDF must constantly fight against. Sorry..
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historical patterned behavior that KDF must constantly fight against. Sorry..
Hopefully they will give you something that will pleasantly surprise you.
We must question the story logic of having an all-knowing all-powerful God, who creates faulty Humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes. - Gene Roddenberry
Hopefully they will give you something that will pleasantly surprise you.
Let me make one thing clear. I don't care about the gifts. It is a goodwill nature from Cryptic and it is nice. I don't even care if I get anything and I also don't care if I am offered something that I already purchased since beta.
What would pleasantly surprise me is if Cryptic does not repeat historical patterned behavior like they always have in regards to the Klingon faction and actually treat them fairly. So far, they have not and that is why we will wait and see if their generosity is equally distributed.
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There were equal numbers of Klingons in the beginning..
Made-up statistic is made-up.
"Participation in PVP-related activities is so low on an hourly, daily, weekly, and monthly basis that we could in fact just completely take it out of STO and it would not impact the overall number of people [who] log in to the game and play in any significant way." -Gozer, Cryptic PvP Dev
Let me make one thing clear. I don't care about the gifts. It is a goodwill nature from Cryptic and it is nice. I don't even care if I get anything and I also don't care if I am offered something that I already purchased since beta.
That was entirely my point when I was referring to accepting a gift simply for what it is.
What would pleasantly surprise me is if Cryptic does not repeat historical patterned behavior like they always have in regards to the Klingon faction and actually treat them fairly. So far, they have not and that is why we will wait and see if their generosity is equally distributed.
Seperate point entirely but I do agree with you. Upon rolling a Romulan and joining the KDF I noticed how the faction was rather "shafted". There is good cause for promoting the case for better treatment of the KDF, but at least we have some new content and a few more low tier ships.
I appreciate if you've been KDF since the start it could lead to bitterness and a sense of disillusion with the devs. Despite all this I will still play KDF 95% of the time, my Orion is my favourite character; but to get Cryptic to give us some consideration we need to actively promote the KDF ourselves in the hope the dev team become more Klingon motivated in the future.
Oh and as to the freebie, its nice but the look doesn't work for everyone.:D See here:
Get off your high horse, stop crying a river of tears. I've been here over a year and I have a KDF toon: im well aware of the complaints and that old wiki page.
My problem here is people whining about freebies. Its pathetic.
Are you really upset because a playerbase feels neglected and chooses to voice it? Wow. You got your toys, but heaven forbid if other people want their own.
BTW, if you have a "problem here" from reading threads like this, yet keep reading and posting in them, well...a change of personal choices may be in order...
When you roll a FED alt and stop whining over free stuff.
Last I saw, this is a multi faction game. The Federation and Klingon Empire... you know, us that have been vaping you in Kerrat as you try to farm in peace in a PVP zone. I know the devs have tried hard over the years to wish that the KDF did not exist.
So far I'm enjoying these gifts. I played around some at the tailor today looking at the new outfits.
Give them time, it just the 2nd day of it. I wonder what they will bring for the KDF players. I think about it at work. Come home to see what surprise the offer.
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So hilarious...some people are never happy and hard to please even with FREE stuff....I like KDF as well but its not just about KDF...did I mention Romulans...too much ego running amok in these forums
Yeah you're 100% right...it isn't just about the KDF...its just all about Feds so far. :P
Can't have a honest conversation because of a white knight with power
To start, no, its not ... what you do at end game as KDF? (Not really) Daring raids deep into-
Is there more than one faction? Yes or no will do.
...hold on, I have to get this right ...
BAWWWWWWWWW
CRYPTIC HATES US AND THEY WANT TO KILL PVP, WHY DOES CRYPTIC HATES US!!!!
BAWWWWWWWW
JEREMY!!!!
Ok, that is not exactly fair but KDF was the monster faction as being the PvP faction but its not like KDF players have not been trying to drive the community apart with the whole "us vs them" and since they did such a
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both are real in this game... hence why I said virtual
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Get off your high horse, stop crying a river of tears. I've been here over a year and I have a KDF toon: im well aware of the complaints and that old wiki page.
My problem here is people whining about freebies. Its pathetic.
When the KDF pulls money in like the Federation, or the Romulans then Cryptic will give them everything they want, but unfortunately they don't which is why the Feds get more stuff.
It's not about them hating the KDF it's just about money
Exactly. As i've said: more people want to be Kirk/Janeway/Sisko/Picard/Archer than Gowron or the Duras sisters.
so since there are so few players.. cryptic isn't out as much money as they are with the feds with this giveaway.. is that what you are saying? And me as a character have put in more money into this game than you possibly could have in 1 year. I'm a KDF
I AM NOT A FAN OF PWE!!!!
MEMBER SINCE JANUARY 2010
No he is saying the KDF dont have an abundance of content [atleast not on par with FED] because they have nowhere near the playerbase.
Your personal investment does not change that. That elitist attitude changes nothing.
If Klingons got more attention in the game more people would play on the Klingon side and spend money on them.
"If you build it, they will come"
you got yours, so you are OK
I AM NOT A FAN OF PWE!!!!
MEMBER SINCE JANUARY 2010
YOU ARE GOING TO GET YOURS TOMORROW, THURSDAY OR FRIDAY.
This isn't warp theory here.
your moral high-ground astonishes me. KDF doesn't have the player base because Cryptic never nurtured it. There were equal numbers of Klingons in the beginning.. we all built our feds to level 21 which was the minimum fed level needed to start a klingon.
they left because they were being treated unfairly, hence, the low numbers of today.
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MEMBER SINCE JANUARY 2010
actually it was level 7 in the beginning
I agree with you on the part I have highlighted. I dont have a moral highground im simply trying to use logic and reason against you. The 'equal number' part I do find debatable, i'd need to see some hard, offical facts backing that up.
My main is FED, my second is KDF. I see no problem with a free give away. How some people can turn such a cool thing into something so negative is beyond me.
actually, it was higher.. it was only in 2011 that KDF got knocked down to level 25 for unlock
Dec 1, 2011
KDF characters now unlock at level 25 and start at level 21.
May 21, 2013
Warriors Rejoice! The Klingon Empire is no longer unlockable Federation content!
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historical patterned behavior that KDF must constantly fight against. Sorry..
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Hopefully they will give you something that will pleasantly surprise you.
I'm talking about 2010 the beginning of STO....but i was wrong it was level LT6 not 7:D
Let me make one thing clear. I don't care about the gifts. It is a goodwill nature from Cryptic and it is nice. I don't even care if I get anything and I also don't care if I am offered something that I already purchased since beta.
What would pleasantly surprise me is if Cryptic does not repeat historical patterned behavior like they always have in regards to the Klingon faction and actually treat them fairly. So far, they have not and that is why we will wait and see if their generosity is equally distributed.
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MEMBER SINCE JANUARY 2010
Made-up statistic is made-up.
That was entirely my point when I was referring to accepting a gift simply for what it is.
Seperate point entirely but I do agree with you. Upon rolling a Romulan and joining the KDF I noticed how the faction was rather "shafted". There is good cause for promoting the case for better treatment of the KDF, but at least we have some new content and a few more low tier ships.
I appreciate if you've been KDF since the start it could lead to bitterness and a sense of disillusion with the devs. Despite all this I will still play KDF 95% of the time, my Orion is my favourite character; but to get Cryptic to give us some consideration we need to actively promote the KDF ourselves in the hope the dev team become more Klingon motivated in the future.
Oh and as to the freebie, its nice but the look doesn't work for everyone.:D See here:
http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/9350/zmoy.jpg
"You have not experienced Shakespeare until you have read him in the original Klingon, taH pagh, taH be"
Are you really upset because a playerbase feels neglected and chooses to voice it? Wow. You got your toys, but heaven forbid if other people want their own.
BTW, if you have a "problem here" from reading threads like this, yet keep reading and posting in them, well...a change of personal choices may be in order...
Last I saw, this is a multi faction game. The Federation and Klingon Empire... you know, us that have been vaping you in Kerrat as you try to farm in peace in a PVP zone. I know the devs have tried hard over the years to wish that the KDF did not exist.
But we do.
Give them time, it just the 2nd day of it. I wonder what they will bring for the KDF players. I think about it at work. Come home to see what surprise the offer.
USS Casinghead NCC 92047 launched 2350
Fleet Admiral Stowe - Dominion War Vet.
I'd rather have them give away useless stuff honestly so I don't feel robbed.
We going to have 3000 clones roaming about in the same outfit I'd rather it be something I don't wear.
They want people outside us regulars to log in and I think it's perfectly legit and fine way of doing ti.
So basically, you'd rather have everyone receive useless stuff then anyone receive something you don't benefit from or something you have paid for?
How very selfish of you.
That's Wed-Fri.
It was just Mon-Tue that were free Fed costume bits.
Why? if you want to be perfectly technical about it, Romulans get six ships out of this.
Yeah you're 100% right...it isn't just about the KDF...its just all about Feds so far. :P
Drama much?