The PvPBC is Pleased to present
PvP Boot Camp Leaderboard
Players will have to register via the forum thread to qualify for leaderboard points, teams may be made only from the pool of names on the leaderboard. 1 coach must be in attendance and can either score the card then or submit it to the council for review and scoring. Each player may register up to three characters for the leaderboard, Characters are limited to three scored matches per week. With the maximum of 30 points per week, The leaderboard will be reset monthly with the leader being added to the boot camp hall of fame the player with the most points after 12 months will be titled PvPBC Champion.
There are three ways to earn leaderboard points
1.Every Saturday PvP Boot Camp will host ~Leaderboard Challenge~ Where coaches will pick evenly skilled teams, 1 coach will attend and screenshot the results for scoring.
2.~Leaderboard Assault~ Registered teams may challenge each other with at least 1 coach in attendance
3. ~Tournaments and Special events~ All PvPBC and Community Authorized events
Player PvP Points
15 kill 5v5
1 point per 5 kills
1 point per 250k dmg <~ 75k sci/sci class
1 point per 250k hlg <~75k for sci/sci class
1 point 0 death
Team Points
The score of all 5 players on the team will be added to make the team score
Perfect Score 10 point cap per match
There will be 3 separate leaderboard Intermediate for beginners Advanced for more intense players and Veteran for those who dare.
Intermediate Players May use any 9 console ship E.g. Any Mirror or C-Store Ship(3 pack 10 console ships excluded). Advanced & Veteran Players may use any ship
Rules(subject to change
No AMS
No Grav Pulse
No Web Mines
No Temporal inversion
No EPM Burst
No Boarding Party with doff
No Scramble Sensors with doff
Please use this thread to register any info will be edited ad updated here.
Hope to see ya all real soon
@LIVIN
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i mean they might as well just get it over with, but there are still a few eng toons in game last i checked.
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There, registered.
Paswut@drkfrontiers (Tac)
Qeng@drkfrontiers (Sci)
Kothke@drkfrontiers (Engies rule!)
tiberius@johnny111971 (Tac)
D'Rock@johnny111971 (Sci)
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I did handi cap the Engineer dmg but I took it out, as most eng class are healers and clock well over 1 mill healing. these are not set in stone and our first month of leaderboard will be testing stage to sort these little things out...PvPBC is open to any and all ideas
@LIVIN
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Also, is there something like kill efficiency/damage?
the stats can be pretty misleading as you can kill someone with 60k damage or 200k, the former being alot more effective.
on the other hand, people using transphasics can get tons of hull damage over a prolonged match whereas that is absolutely no indication the specific player actually ever killed something.
Just curious.
Coach Kraven
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Riyott@younghustler (Tac)
C'Ax@A_X
Science T'Varo
AX
We won 15/1
Tac Captain/Fleet Patrol Escort
14 Kills (2 Points, 1 Per 5 kills)
1 Death (0 Points)
396736 Damage (1 Point, 1 Per 250K Damage)
140853 Healing (0 Points, 1 per 250K Healing)
My match score would be 3 Points, out of 10... is that correct?
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I understand for a sci/sci that the damage will be less their calc looks like 1 point per 175K... but shouldnt they have a higher heal value? Instead of a 175k per point? My sci/sci routinely dows over 1 million heals.
Last question, alternatively, why not add the dmg/heal together and divide that value by 250k?
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To be honest with you, a system like this - while I applaud the effort - is gameable.
As it was already stated, a Sci can easily inflate their score with Transphasic Torp Spread, and just constantly pump out a barrage of direct to hull damage that registers on the scoreboard vs. Shield damage that never gets reported.
There are also other damage score inflating skills, such as TBR or BFAW, that are going to produce high numbers but not necessarily kill anything or even contribute to a kill (it could just be used to clear spam at some point for example).
It also doesn't tell you about the proper use of some of the most important powers in the game, that largely contribute to kills but never show up on the scoreboard.
Powers like Sensor Scan or SNB for example.
Anyway, sorry to put so much criticism out there - I just don't put much faith in the actual in-game PvP scoreboard outside of it providing very general information.
And criticism aside, I wish you guys luck with this endeavor.
This is not directed at you specifically, I know you are a fan of boosting PvP, and were the one who really talked me into playing it more often... until i was hooked.
I don't know about the rest here, and I can't speak to the motivations of BC, I want these types of things to succeed/increase... Tournaments, Leauges, Leaderboards, Bootcamp, not because I think they are the end all solution, but because it can drive up the overall player population that participates in PvP. That is the number that matters... the % of players who play PvP. For any meaningful discussion with Cryptic regarding PvP... that is where it is always going to start.
If that number increases, then the resources devoted to it MAY increase... I do say may, mainly because I can't speak to Cryptic's goals/plans. I understand that people are a little jaded because there were supposed to the PvP Seasons (plans changed) Due in large part to the afore mentioned player population % active in PvP (I believe), and yes... profitability is also a factor.
Not only do these things have the potential (not promise) of bringing more people to PvP, they also (in some way) give Cryptic a foundation or at the bare minimum something to look at as a guideline on how to (or how not to) make any eventual PvP enhancement work.
Yes, there are definitely differences of opinions among the PvP community (sometimes radically different opinions) on what is and is not OP, what should and should not be allowed in a tournament, what should be nerfed, and what should be buffed... but in the end, and that actually is healthy... Even if Cryptic never enhances PvP... we can still have some fun... we can still have tourneys, and leaderboards, leagues...
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If the same match gets uploaded by multiple persons, one could give it a higher score since that probably means that more pvp-oriented players where in that match. The possibilities are endless. In a very advanced version one could could even try to reconstruct matches from partial data (since one loses data if one dies and respawns outside of the logging range).
I'm not sure how big the reports could reasonably get before one runs into trouble with bandwidth and storage, but one could even use this to datamine the population for shifts in the metagame (energy types, use of pets, certain abilities).
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HO Bop - 3 points Match
Neg'var Eng You have 5 points I come up with 4 (5 Kills = 1, 809443/250k = 3)
Exotic T'Acvro (tac) You have 7, i come up with 6 (12 Kills = 2, 915753/250k = 3, 255854/250l = 1)
Where is my math off? Or are you allowing decimals/rounding?
Just want to make sure I can accurately score.
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As far as the motives of PvPBC, I think they have and always will be the continuing effort of the PvP community, to provide quality information and a neutral zone for players new and veteran to enjoy PvP and share insights and knowledge with all those seeking it. We have always only hoped to make the transition from PvE to PvP as smooth as possible. As the PvP community we are tasked with creating our own content and mini games to break the monotony of arena play. We need to reach out to the PvE community and show them the benefits that come with learning the PvP Skills. Only When our numbers grow will Cryptic start to look at how and why need to be worked on...
@LIVIN
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Thanks Livin, I was pretty sure those were the motives of bootcamp... but I don't like to speak for others.
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In the name of the White Umbrella I join here. Btw thanks for the invitation.
There is much interesting stuff in here.
Cu Around
So if i'm a Sci, and I do 250k Damage 250k Heals
Regardless of my K/D I get 3 points for my damage, and 3 points for my heals.
makes 6
If I do the same with a tac I get 1 point for my Damage, and 1 point for my heals, so to equal the same amount of points I need to go 15 - 0.
This seems quite massively scewed in favor of Sci, especially when you can run double torp spread and transphasics for big damage stats.
Would it not be better to have 250k Dmg be 1 point and 250k Heals be 1 point regardless of your class.
Sorry for my late response, work has been wicked busy.
Now on to business, Hollaback it's not all science just sci/sci builds like say VM3,CPB2,PH2,TB1, or a PSW3,TSS3,HE2,ST1 essential builds to any team but do to high buff/debuff value and reasonably low dmg/heals some type of handicap needs to be put in place, to give those type of builds a equal share in the points. We are only in the test phase and we could sure use your help on the project...send me a in game mail@LIVIN so we can bounce some ideas around...
Thank you Folken, the support of the White Umbrella is greatly appreciated...8D
We will be starting the first test match's this weekend and running all weekend, we would like to get teams running and scoring asap so we can start seeing the data<~with more refined scoring methods as a result.
If any of you are serious about this send me in game mail@LIVIN I would like to collect peoples time zones and play times so we can schedule match's more efficiently.
I just want to thank you all for showing support and remind you to spread the word to your friends and fleet mates...8D
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