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heizlueftaheizluefta Member Posts: 167 Arc User
edited July 2013 in PvP Gameplay
Plz just dont kill me for just doing an attempt/asking one question that may not be a new one !

@DEVs/Cryptic/PWE: Is there any way, that one (or some) of u guys take a little time, maybe once a week (more often would be better though, but...), and play here together with us ? Maybe sometimes in PVE Invironments, maybe sometimes in PVP-ones ?
I dont know exactly if there was an attempt or if it really happened sometimes lately.

I just think:

1. Beeing a "little" bit closer to Community would function like a -TH Console from Embassy for you Guys !

2. Beeing closer to "us" would maybe sometimes automatically lead to a kind of "hey, theres an issue, ill show you-Atmosphere" ! In Opposition to the well known "oh, hey, Cryptic doesnt care a ****"-Atmosphere.

3. I know, that doing so maybe would cause many "time-sinks" for you guys. But maybe it would relax some things in exchange ? Youd have to set up rules or certain themes for such a thing happening once a week e.g. ! But i think it would be of permanent interst for you and us once established in an effective way!

4. There are many people having Issues/Bugs/Exploits and so on !
Thats because your game produces them. Not because Star Trek Players are (in average) more feared or have less capabilities in analyzing things. There may be many, Yes. But its not an acceptable Policy to just "take" all ressources and "ignore the ones that do think about reasons/bugs" !

5. I know that I (personally) am very pissed off of this game. Not just since months. But: thats not the point here. I am capable to be patient, to wait, to forgive, to hope, to destroy.
I think you should make more out of the patience, the hope and the "ressource-spending-will" people are giving you without any exchange sometimes.

6. I dont know if you are aware of:

a) People like Star Trek

b) People like Science fiction AND they have not many good Opportunities in that sector !

c) Therefore u maybe know, that people will buy your game and pay ? For whatever you do ? Just because you get your marketing maxed ?

d) that is NOT the Star-Trek-Thinking

e) "How do you know/why dont you trust" in people in Terms of "they will be here when we fix some major issues and do not just make Risa shine"???
I am still here.......many others too....with many breaks and crisis with nearly every patch.

f) In Terms of PVP: One thing must be said: Especially the PVPers made some Bugs "come out", tried to communicate all time with you, posted bugs, tried everything, existed in the shadows, were before extinction few times, bought everything, did all PVE Content necessary, shall i go further ???
For me, its not about "dividing" PVE and PVP. But you effectively kill nearly all pvp efforts once they are existent. Why the hell dont you use them as "positive factor"?

I think that all are "major" issues for me. Sometimes i dont know why im coming back every time. I think: its the starships. Its the concept. Its Star Trek. Its science Fiction !

But if u want to make people think "its also cryptic" you really have to rethink your politics in every way. Maybe this suggestion woult be "a good one" to not just coexist without respect for each other.......! I think that could be a very productive symbiotic thing !

Hope there will be not too much "uh, he is talking like a wounded bird".

Noone has to share my opinion. But indeed i think that many people share opinions that dont differ too much from that one....
Like every time i hope someone will react.
Greetz
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Some of them secretly PvP under personal accounts.

    Some because they don't want to be hassled by folks.
    Some because they're really, really, really bad.
    Some because they don't want management to know.
    Some because...

    ...okay, maybe some is stretching it - heh, there are 2-3 that do that I know of...there's likely more of them that are lurking out there - taking notes - randomly buffing mobs in PvE via CrypticDevToolsHax because of something we said in OPvP. Uh huh...uh huh...I know it.
  • heizlueftaheizluefta Member Posts: 167 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Good points....and why are they so feared of beeing a little more transparent ? Thats the point for me. Its like beeing in war sometimes. And that shouldnt be what we are doing here. Let us know about their problems in IT or time-management, let us know about problems finding bugs, fixing them, just getting all these done, and so on.
    Why are so many games and projects very very community-based in its origins/in the beginning now ? Because it works. Kickstarter prooves that ! And many many will take a look at star citizen. People that are interested will spend time and effort without waiting for "discounts" ! They do it because they want it. Any developer/producer/game-publisher could ceep that in mind and use these things. Thats exactly what the pvpers(and maybe some others) try to do since years....but nobody hears them !

    So...its all secret. Its not accessible. Its not existent for most of "us" !
    That has to be changed, especially if theres a community like ours forgiving so many many things.....

    (plz keep my english easy, ill try to fix my language bugs :D )

    P.S.: And for me its never about any "DEV-Skills". Because they are payd not to play with us. But to fix and evolve game. But maybe it should be otherwise ???^^
    Are they able to realize the important bugs without playing ? So: plz @PWE: take some money from us (that u already have) and get someone that wants to play with us...!!!
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    edit: Heh, dropping the name of the guy that was named by somebody else would probably result in the guy whose name was dropped knowing who dropped his name...so never mind.

    So uh yeah, no - I got that name from here: http://sto.gamepedia.com/Cryptic_Studios

    Scroll down to...oh wait, here: http://sto.gamepedia.com/Cryptic_Studios#Major_Project_Responsibilities

    Look at PvP...ahem.
  • heizlueftaheizluefta Member Posts: 167 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    So...thats the actual attention ! K ! Im not surprised ! :D ANd does it mean that any Czar is coming now to train us in terms of pvp ? :D
    And in Terms of PVE......they do it......yes but....it makes sense in terms of "statistics"! They do maybe nearly 95% of their income with "i dont-know-anything-PVErs". So maybe thats not some kind of "motivation" what he said/did, but maybe an advice ?

    Id like to know better about Cryptic/PWE-Hierarchies ! Would be interesting......
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    heizluefta wrote: »
    Id like to know better about Cryptic/PWE-Hierarchies ! Would be interesting......

    Not sure when the page listed in my edit above was last edited...

    Lol, outside of some vandalism early last month - doesn't look like it has been updated since May of last year.
  • heizlueftaheizluefta Member Posts: 167 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    last i saw was kind of 2012ish ?

    But thats player generated content too i think ! Cryptic 3.0 should look like:

    "Hey, WE want TRIBBLE, WE do TRIBBLE, WE know about TRIBBLE, lets play together and find out TRIBBLE ! "

    And so on...

    And finally "what do you all want ?"

    Using statistics does maximize income in a way that makes PWE more wealthy. But i think there are better ways which....maybe....maximize income parallel to doing some "we create the game you want to play" !

    Only think of the money people pay for a game that doesnt exist yet. Isnt that one indicator for a possible statistic that prooves that people are pissed off of beeing screwed with MMOs these days? Especially with F2P models, that seems to hide their intrinsic motivation to suck people dry ?

    I think......no......i hope.....that people generally are not going to be so naive all time...maybe there will be some models that do in fact fit better in peoples motivation by doing enough money too !

    P.S.: And......just totallly hypothetically: If i knew theres a Company struggeling with their money, just to save the game, i think here in STO there were soooo many people that wouldnt mind "spending" some money for nothing. If they knew, they are not getting screwed...
    But yes....i really know that these kind of thoughts can not get any place in economic environments ! Normally !
    Thats the point, why kickstarter projects will be a future ! The others are just sucking the rest out of us ! ^^
    Like "true Blood" ? :D
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