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snebzsnebz Member Posts: 46 Arc User
I am not too far off from from purchasing a used comp, but I wanted to know if I will need to upgrade to a video card before I can play STO. :)
Would Integrated Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 3100 play STO to a reasonable degree?
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  • aexraelaexrael Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    That Intel GMA 3100 is dinosaur technology, it won't run anything reasonable, let alone STO.
  • snebzsnebz Member Posts: 46 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Ok, thanks!
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  • sander233sander233 Member Posts: 3,992 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    snebz wrote: »
    I am not too far off from from purchasing a used comp, but I wanted to know if I will need to upgrade to a video card before I can play STO. :)
    Would Integrated Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 3100 play STO to a reasonable degree?

    Not "reasonable" no. Probably not at all, actually.

    From the STO FAQ:
    Q: What are the system requirements?

    A: The minimum system requirements are:
    OS: Windows XP SP2 / Windows Vista / Windows 7 (32 or 64-bit)
    CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo 1.8 Ghz or AMD Athlon X2 3800+
    Memory: Memory: 1GB RAM
    Video: NVIDIA GeForce 7950 / ATI Radeon X1800 / Intel HD Graphics
    Sound: DirectX 9.0c Compatible Soundcard
    DirectX: Version 9.0c or Higher
    HDD: 10GB Free Disk Space
    Network: Internet Broadband Connection Required

    A: The recommended system specifications are:
    OS: Windows XP SP2 / Windows Vista / Windows 7 (32 or 64-bit)
    CPU: Intel E8400 Core 2 Duo or AMD Athlon X2 5600+
    Memory: 2GB RAM+
    Video: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 / ATI Radeon HD 3850+
    Sound: DirectX 9.0c Compatible Soundcard
    DirectX: Version 9.0c or Higher
    HDD: 10GB Free Disk Space
    Network: Internet Broadband Connection Required

    For "reasonable"-looking graphics you'll want at least the recommended spec graphics processors. This is the sort of thing you'll be looking at.
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  • bumblebushbumblebush Member Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    aexrael wrote: »
    That Intel GMA 3100 is dinosaur technology, it won't run anything reasonable, let alone STO.

    DOnt no if thats all true!?!

    I have an intel media graphics accelerator driver installed on my laptop and i play STO fairly smoothly had to work with the video options, and i cant complain, and i dont have bad or great graphics.






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  • notapwefannotapwefan Member Posts: 1,138 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I have Intel HD Graphics 4000 in my work laptop, and it doesn't even start a game. As soon as I see Cryptic logo, the game crashes.
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  • tobar26thtobar26th Member Posts: 799 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I have STO running on

    1.7Ghz 2nd Generation Dual Core i5
    4GB RAM
    Intel HD Graphics 3000


    It's not pretty, but it does work. Neither you nor your machine will enjoy it though...
  • reginamala78reginamala78 Member Posts: 4,593 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    There are several technological generations of difference between the old Intel GMA3100 graphics and a more modern Intel HD2000/3000/4000 setup. An HD chip will run STO (to a point; its still an integrated solution after all). An ancient GMA3100......your smartphone probably does better graphics.
  • startrekronstartrekron Member Posts: 231 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    What are the stats on this PC? If the rest of the PC is as old as the video card it might be a good idea to save your money and buy something better later on.

    Want a good way to get a good PC at a low price? Consider building one yourself, I recently helped a friend build an Alienware like PC for $500 less than an actual Alienware. You can save even more by using stuff you already have like DVD drives, PC Cases, cables, screws, etc. Building a rig isn't as hard as it used to be, its quite easy. You could buy all the components yourself and ask a PC shop to put it together for you and still come out ahead. The only downside is that you will have to provide your tech support.
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  • ightenighten Member Posts: 181 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Intel HD 3000 and the type the OP is talking about are two different beasts.. You shouldnt have much of a problem with HD3000 as long as you turn some options down and its fine on HD4000..
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  • aexraelaexrael Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Intel GMA vs Intel HD are generations apart.

    GMA 3k

    HD 3k

    I wouldn't be caught dead playing on integrated solutions, but the newer HD series are leaps and bounds better then anything previous. The HD series was introduced around 2010 and forward, where as the GMA tech is from ~2007.
  • snebzsnebz Member Posts: 46 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    What are the stats on this PC? If the rest of the PC is as old as the video card it might be a good idea to save your money and buy something better later on.

    Want a good way to get a good PC at a low price? Consider building one yourself, I recently helped a friend build an Alienware like PC for $500 less than an actual Alienware. You can save even more by using stuff you already have like DVD drives, PC Cases, cables, screws, etc. Building a rig isn't as hard as it used to be, its quite easy. You could buy all the components yourself and ask a PC shop to put it together for you and still come out ahead. The only downside is that you will have to provide your tech support.


    I have looked at building my own, the problem is that I do not have $500/$600 to spend right now. I found this computer at $90 total (shipping too). But, I obviously will need a video card for it...

    Specs:

    Lenovo ThinkCentre 9088

    Intel PENTIUM E8400

    CORE 2 DUO

    3.0 GHz Processor

    2 GB Ram

    80 GB SATA Harddrive

    SATA DVDROM-RW

    Integrated Sound & Video

    Hi-Speed Ethernet LAN (10/100/1000 Mbps.

    I know that is bare minimum RAM, I plan to upgrade (it has 8gb total).
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  • hachanshachans Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    notapwefan wrote: »
    I have Intel HD Graphics 4000 in my work laptop, and it doesn't even start a game. As soon as I see Cryptic logo, the game crashes.

    I have that on my work laptop as well with the issues that you're describing. However I downloaded new drivers from Intel and now it works and looks decent on medium settings. You can give that a try if you want.

    I also have a Mac mini with intel he and I run windows through boot camp. Works good there as well.
  • reginamala78reginamala78 Member Posts: 4,593 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    snebz wrote: »
    I have looked at building my own, the problem is that I do not have $500/$600 to spend right now. I found this computer at $90 total (shipping too). But, I obviously will need a video card for it...

    Specs:

    Lenovo ThinkCentre 9088

    Etc

    To make that thing game worthy, you'd still need to put in more memory, a bigger hard drive, and a decent video card. You'd spend at least $250 just there, plus the $90 it cost already. The processor may be passable (barely) for now, but with no room to upgrade you'd still be buying new chip and motherboard again in just a few years.

    If you have an existing case, DVD drive, power supply, and operating system, you could probably do the rest for just over $350 (for example):

    $140 CPU: Intel i3-3225
    $75 Motherboard: Asus P8H77-M
    $72 Memory: 8 GB Decent-Quality PC12800
    $70 Hard Drive: Seagate 1 Terabyte SATA 6.0 (only a few bucks more than one with half the capacity)

    That combination has Intel's best modern integrated graphics on the CPU and will let you run STO for now, and then when you get another hundred bucks, you drop in a mid-range graphics card like a Radeon 7790 or a GeForce 650 Ti. And it only costs a few bucks more than buying an old junker and fixing it, so much more cost-effective.
  • snebzsnebz Member Posts: 46 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Nice idea, but, I do not have $350.
    Passable is, it looks like, the best I can do for now...
    I don't need to play the big titles like Battlefield 3 or Far Cry 3 right now.
    I foresee about 4 main games: Black and White 1, Black and White 2, Star Trek Online, and maybe Minecraft.
    Minecraft is more CPU intensive than video card intensive, and it runs ok on my 2 GHz Macbook.
    I was looking at $30 video cards on Amazon, and was wondering whether to go with:

    GeForce 8800
    or
    Radeon HD 5450

    Or perhaps there is another $30 or less video card on Amazon that would run STO reasonably?
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  • bumblebushbumblebush Member Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    If you do have an integrated intel graphics card?

    Try using this....Intel Display Adapter Management tool.

    It fools your integrated intel graphics card into thinking its not hardware and makes your computer play games using software not hardware and you will get a smoother gameplay.

    You can download it here if you like = http://theprogrammingheaven.blogspot.com/2010/02/intel-display-adapter-management-tool.html

    And dont worry it is very safe!
    IV downloaded it over a few years ago and have no problem with it sense and makes my games run a lot smoother on my laptop.
    And remember that it only works with integrated intel graphic cards and nothing else.

    Just to make sure you read the description on how to use it.
    And you want to add STO to the game list and when you start STO select it so it works.

    Hope this helps for some of you!!!!:D





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  • sirokksirokk Member Posts: 990 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    To make that thing game worthy, you'd still need to put in more memory, a bigger hard drive, and a decent video card. You'd spend at least $250 just there, plus the $90 it cost already. The processor may be passable (barely) for now, but with no room to upgrade you'd still be buying new chip and motherboard again in just a few years.

    If you have an existing case, DVD drive, power supply, and operating system, you could probably do the rest for just over $350 (for example):

    $140 CPU: Intel i3-3225
    $75 Motherboard: Asus P8H77-M
    $72 Memory: 8 GB Decent-Quality PC12800
    $70 Hard Drive: Seagate 1 Terabyte SATA 6.0 (only a few bucks more than one with half the capacity)

    That combination has Intel's best modern integrated graphics on the CPU and will let you run STO for now, and then when you get another hundred bucks, you drop in a mid-range graphics card like a Radeon 7790 or a GeForce 650 Ti. And it only costs a few bucks more than buying an old junker and fixing it, so much more cost-effective.

    ^^^ This will work fine for STO. The graphics card is the most important thing, at least for the NVidia's the GTX line is what you want. Spec the motherboard and power supply around the graphics card. Intel i3 CPU can be as low as $90.

    Save up your money.

    Hope this helps.
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  • snebzsnebz Member Posts: 46 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I did a little more research, I was thinking about one of these (refurbished) for $32:

    EVGA nVidia GeForce 9800 GT Akimbo
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  • seansamurai1seansamurai1 Member Posts: 634 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    The 8800GT is more than man enough to play CoD4 on max settings, so it might run this game ok.

    However, the motherboard will need to be checked to see if its compatible with the PCI-Ex16 that the GPUs run with (If its AGP8 then you are screwed through and through).
  • otakuboytotakuboyt Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I just do happen my office laptop runs has that card.

    http://support.gateway.com/s/Mobile/2008/Tempest/1015084R/1015084Rsp2.shtml

    I can run STO on it on low settings, it doesn't look pretty. I do use it doff and do non-mission stuff from the recliner, but that is it.
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