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captainobvious09captainobvious09 Member Posts: 182 Arc User
edited July 2013 in PvP Gameplay
I am working on gearing my Scimitar for PVP/PVE but I know very little about PVP, what shield/deflector/engine should I use ?

Right now I have her setup with romulan plasma beam arrays/rom hypertorp/borg cutting beam. I am looking for something that will work in PVP and PVE.

Ideas ?

Thanks in advance!
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  • verusisraelverusisrael Member Posts: 93 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Gearing this thing depending on what you wanna do can be expensive do you have a budget? How is your rep looking? One of the cool things is you have choice but you gotta be more specific with what You got.
  • smokeybacon90smokeybacon90 Member Posts: 2,252 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    There is a motherlode of build options for this ship. Narrow it down (cannon drain? tac support? beamboat?) and we can help you.
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  • webdeathwebdeath Member Posts: 1,570 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Other big problem with the Scimitar is deciding which consoles you want to use. If you have the three piece Scimitar set.. and all the other Romulan ship consoles.. you can find your self with almost no room for anything else on your ship. Which is understandable since there are A L O T of good consoles on the romulan side. :( (I need about 5 more console slots my self dern it!)

    The one build strategy I've seen work for the Scimitar is to treat it like a big Escort/Battle Cruiser in terms of what type of weapons to use.
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Yep, even with saying you want something for PvE and PvP - there's still going to be all sorts of options. What Career are you? You mentioned the Rom Arrays/Hyper Torp/KCB...what ship were you flying before the Scim? Which Scim? The Scim? Fal? Tul?

    A little more info on your part, and you'll likely up ending with so many suggestions you'll need to ask for help deciding! :)
  • captainobvious09captainobvious09 Member Posts: 182 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Yep, even with saying you want something for PvE and PvP - there's still going to be all sorts of options. What Career are you? You mentioned the Rom Arrays/Hyper Torp/KCB...what ship were you flying before the Scim? Which Scim? The Scim? Fal? Tul?

    I am a Tac, 5 tac console Scimitar version, my other ship is a fleet Dehlan. I do not and will not run the consoles that came with ship they are garbage, even if they did not bug the ship, I still would not run them. I tried cannons and dual beams early on, but did not like the feel of the ship, she works much better with arrays. She can turn fine, but the inertia is hard to overcome for cannons.
  • sardociansardocian Member Posts: 187 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I am a Tac, 5 tac console Scimitar version, my other ship is a fleet Dehlan. I do not and will not run the consoles that came with ship they are garbage, even if they did not bug the ship, I still would not run them. I tried cannons and dual beams early on, but did not like the feel of the ship, she works much better with arrays. She can turn fine, but the inertia is hard to overcome for cannons.

    Your choice on not running the Scimitar consoles, but that's kind of foolish. The shield-while-cloaked console is actually pretty nice, and while the other two are arent all that great, choosing another for the two piece bonus (more turn rate plus keeping your turn rate boost after decloaking) makes it worth while. Though you do have to change your play style a bit to make use of it, essentially abusing your battle cloak (which comes with no disadvantage thanks to the console) for ambush damage+good turn rate. Stick a Reman BOff on it for Infiltrator to make the ambush effect last longer will help, as well as many Romulan BOffs with their nice ability. Stick those consoles in the science slots, those are fairly useless anyway :-)

    The inertia does take time to get used to, but its possible to get around it and make use of it. I run cannons perfectly fine, though admittedly do have issues with JHAS and other extreme speed ships... usually end up cloaking on those and repositioning myself a lot...
  • mewmaster101mewmaster101 Member Posts: 1,239 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I am a Tac, 5 tac console Scimitar version, my other ship is a fleet Dehlan. I do not and will not run the consoles that came with ship they are garbage, even if they did not bug the ship, I still would not run them. I tried cannons and dual beams early on, but did not like the feel of the ship, she works much better with arrays. She can turn fine, but the inertia is hard to overcome for cannons.

    The consoles are OP IMO, the extra turn rate from the 2 set bonus makes cannons the best choice hands down.
  • heizlueftaheizluefta Member Posts: 167 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    The consoles are OP IMO, the extra turn rate from the 2 set bonus makes cannons the best choice hands down.

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  • captainobvious09captainobvious09 Member Posts: 182 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I would agree that the console that allows shields up while cloak, would be very OP, if it was not bugged. Using it negates any hull resistance you have and makes kinetic spikes go through shields. (Yes the shields stay up, and you take the full hull damage). As long as its bugged its useless, and Cryptic (as always) are dragging their heals to fix it.
  • andoriansrusandoriansrus Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I actually LIKE my Scimitar... Im using muy Tactical Captain Scimitar to experiment with different weapons types...but I always come back to my Fleet Disruptors....

    Im also experimenting with a Dual Beam Bank and Beam Overload III for a really nice 20k spike just out of cloak

    Im TRYING to scrabble together an Aux2Batt build for this ship.

    so far I have settled on a deflector and engine I found on the exchange(Im still trying to get tier 5 Omega rep for gear) Fleet Shields, one threat Scaling Console, and all 3 Scimitar Consoles.... the Thalaron Pulse (great for PVE) while not so good for PVP is awesome at busting up mobs of stuff in STF's, and the Elite Fleet Romulan Drones are AWESOMESAUCE on a stick, with their confuse ability its like having 2 scramble sensors II and I don't even have to trigger them.....

    my thoughts for my Science Captain variation is going to lean more towards the Sensor Scramble/Electronic warfare type of build while using Fleet Disruptors and Quantums (until much later when it will end up a Romulan Plasma Build)
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  • martin1970giesenmartin1970giesen Member Posts: 217 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    The problem i have with the Thalaron Pulse, it takes 12 sec, not shooting and not healing.
    I do about 17k dps * 12 = 184 k and i can move and heal myself...
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  • andoriansrusandoriansrus Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    The problem i have with the Thalaron Pulse, it takes 12 sec, not shooting and not healing.
    I do about 17k dps * 12 = 184 k and i can move and heal myself...

    if you are only getting 17k damage from the thalaron pulse there is something wrong there... always before I fire the pulse I spike my aux with an Aux Battery or EPtA... get that aux up and remember Particle Generator skill actually helps improve the damage from the thalaron pulse as well....
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  • maicake716maicake716 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I am working on gearing my Scimitar for PVP/PVE but I know very little about PVP, what shield/deflector/engine should I use ?

    Right now I have her setup with romulan plasma beam arrays/rom hypertorp/borg cutting beam. I am looking for something that will work in PVP and PVE.

    Ideas ?

    Thanks in advance!

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  • webdeathwebdeath Member Posts: 1,570 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I would agree that the console that allows shields up while cloak, would be very OP, if it was not bugged. Using it negates any hull resistance you have and makes kinetic spikes go through shields. (Yes the shields stay up, and you take the full hull damage). As long as its bugged its useless, and Cryptic (as always) are dragging their heals to fix it.

    I'd love to see the link that the information your talking about is being discussed..
    maicake716 wrote: »
    Go into battle cloaked and naked!

    :D then when you're about to die, ramming speed!

    Where were you when I was looking for help with my Ha'nom oh sci master? :P


    Anyway, about the Original Topic..

    The 3 Consoles from the 3 Dreadnought Warbirds are EXTREMELY Handy. The Secondary Shield Console is nice for that extra Defense that you some times need in PVP. The Shields While cloaked Console has been a life saver when trying to run away from those annoying DHC based Bug ships flying around. And the Fire while cloaked option has been nifty for deploying various sneak attack options with out being in the T'varo/B'Rel-R. Sure it is only a few seconds, but you can easily get kills in those few seconds.

    The Thalaron how ever has to be used in the right type of Targets. I find it VERY handy for assaulting Carriers and Cruser Based Healers. A lot of the time they can't get out of the way, or are too busy healing their team mates to avoid it. And if you know your going to get hammered during the 12 second charge up, just use Tac team, or even the Secondary shield array or any other defenses you feel you might need to pop right before Thalaroning. Also I find starting up at around 7km is a good sweet spot.

    To be honest I wish the ship had another 5 Console slots just to be able to use actual normal consoles and not all the other goodie consoles that come from the other lower tier Warbirds >.< Soo many good Romulan Consoles!! :(
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