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Origin of the Elachi

eristhevortaeristhevorta Member Posts: 1,049 Bug Hunter
http://trekcore.com/blog/2013/07/star-trek-enterprise-rise-of-the-federation-a-choice-of-futures-the-book-review/

These remind me a lot of the Elachi in Star Trek Online. Very similar faces, very similar starships. Your thoughts?
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  • robeasomrobeasom Member Posts: 1,911 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Well I always class the Elachi as the silent enemy in Season 1 of Enterprise
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  • thay8472thay8472 Member Posts: 6,376 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    It is the same race.
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  • misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    after reading the title I was hoping you wanted to discuss whether the Elachi in STO were an actual species or an artificial construct...too bad.

    :(
  • kexx062782kexx062782 Member Posts: 22 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Yeah I think they did an "expanded universe" type deal on the Silent Enemy aliens from ENT. I love this idea & hope to see more in the future. It's a shame they didn't see the already created fiction out there though & work from that. Might have been a licensing issue though.
  • eristhevortaeristhevorta Member Posts: 1,049 Bug Hunter
    edited July 2013
    Mister De, feel free to share your thoughts about your wished discussion in this topic, no problem. :)
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  • oldravenman3025oldravenman3025 Member Posts: 1,892 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    misterde3 wrote: »
    after reading the title I was hoping you wanted to discuss whether the Elachi in STO were an actual species or an artificial construct...too bad.

    :(


    Either way, they are scumbags (from a lore standpoint) and monsters.

    Which is why I can't wait to have my characters blast more of them into their component atoms. :D
  • futurepastnowfuturepastnow Member Posts: 3,660 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Yeah, the Elachi are clearly the aliens from that Enterprise episode. A connection to the Schisms aliens is also made clear by the way they abduct individuals.

    I think they were the Hur'q, too, although STO doesn't make that connection.
  • rickeyredshirtrickeyredshirt Member Posts: 1,060 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I like the name Vertian better than Elachi. :(

    Elachi is an infamous double eagle or an eastern spice...
  • banatinebanatine Member Posts: 250 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I really hope that we get a FE series regarding the Elachi. I'd love to understand where they came from, what they want, why they allied with Sela, and what their ultimate purpose is...

    I mean, surely they aren't going to stop at the romulans, right?
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  • robeasomrobeasom Member Posts: 1,911 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    The Tal shier, Elachi and Iconions gonna be a lot of FEES regarding these
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  • zipagatzipagat Member Posts: 1,204 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Either way they seem like space bullies, they pick on the weak (the scattered Romulan people) and the unaware/naive (the NX01 Enterprise, even going as far as TRIBBLE with them) but when someone fights back they go running rather quickly.
  • ussweatherlightussweatherlight Member Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Yeah, the Elachi are clearly the aliens from that Enterprise episode. A connection to the Schisms aliens is also made clear by the way they abduct individuals.

    I think they were the Hur'q, too, although STO doesn't make that connection.

    What makes you think they're the H'urq?
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  • eristhevortaeristhevorta Member Posts: 1,049 Bug Hunter
    edited July 2013
    Vertian sounds like a rare particle trace, so they had to find a new name, I guess. :D The Schisms ... yeah ... now that you meowntioned it, it could be that race as well. :D
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  • brian334brian334 Member Posts: 2,219 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I think the Elachi and the Iconians are related somehow. Not necessarily as similar species, but it had to have been Hakeev's exploration of the Iconian Portals that led him to encounter and ally with the Elachi.

    My current thought is that the Elachi tried to turn the Iconian's trade and technology empire into a military one and 'became' the Iconians as far as anyone else knew. The rest of the galaxy then ganged up on them and drove them into subspace or something.

    When Picard found the Iconian gate he pointed out that there were no weapons controls, and the device seemed more suitable for exploration than conquest, and also that victors write history. So it may well be that the Iconians were peaceful scientists who were overwhelmed by the Elachi.

    New thought: The Elachi aren't a species at all, but constructs, like biological Data's. They don't breed, and thus need raw materials to create replacements, which is why they abduct so many people. If this is the case, then they may well have been created by the Iconians, who were overthrown by their creations, as in the Terminator series.
  • ussweatherlightussweatherlight Member Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    brian334 wrote: »
    I think the Elachi and the Iconians are related somehow. Not necessarily as similar species, but it had to have been Hakeev's exploration of the Iconian Portals that led him to encounter and ally with the Elachi.

    My current thought is that the Elachi tried to turn the Iconian's trade and technology empire into a military one and 'became' the Iconians as far as anyone else knew. The rest of the galaxy then ganged up on them and drove them into subspace or something.

    When Picard found the Iconian gate he pointed out that there were no weapons controls, and the device seemed more suitable for exploration than conquest, and also that victors write history. So it may well be that the Iconians were peaceful scientists who were overwhelmed by the Elachi.

    New thought: The Elachi aren't a species at all, but constructs, like biological Data's. They don't breed, and thus need raw materials to create replacements, which is why they abduct so many people. If this is the case, then they may well have been created by the Iconians, who were overthrown by their creations, as in the Terminator series.

    Are you saying that the Elachi are the demons of air and darkness?

    I could totally go with that idea. Severe plot twists from our expectations.
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  • futurepastnowfuturepastnow Member Posts: 3,660 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    What makes you think they're the H'urq?

    Well, Hur'q isn't an actual name- it's just the Klingon word for "outsider." They invaded Qo'nos a thousand years prior, stole a bunch of stuff, and that's pretty much all we know. Worf thought they were extinct, but we don't know if that is actually correct.

    Plus I think their symbol looks an awful lot like the Elachi ships.

    I'm just saying, that if STO's writer wished to create a connection, there's nothing in canon to contradict it.
  • doubleohninedoubleohnine Member Posts: 818 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Elachi come off as Subcontractors for the Borg. Just when Cryptic knew we were getting tired of fighting Borg, they just reskin them and give them the same abducting agenda. :rolleyes:
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  • lordfuzunlordfuzun Member Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    brian334 wrote: »
    I think the Elachi and the Iconians are related somehow. Not necessarily as similar species, but it had to have been Hakeev's exploration of the Iconian Portals that led him to encounter and ally with the Elachi.

    My current thought is that the Elachi tried to turn the Iconian's trade and technology empire into a military one and 'became' the Iconians as far as anyone else knew. The rest of the galaxy then ganged up on them and drove them into subspace or something.

    When Picard found the Iconian gate he pointed out that there were no weapons controls, and the device seemed more suitable for exploration than conquest, and also that victors write history. So it may well be that the Iconians were peaceful scientists who were overwhelmed by the Elachi.

    You and Picard made a mistake any first year researcher would make. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Just because there were not weapon controls, doesn't mean they were a peaceful culture. For example, I see thousand upon thousand of vehicles that have no weapons on them. That doesn't strongly indicate there are no vehicles with weapons.
    New thought: The Elachi aren't a species at all, but constructs, like biological Data's. They don't breed, and thus need raw materials to create replacements, which is why they abduct so many people. If this is the case, then they may well have been created by the Iconians, who were overthrown by their creations, as in the Terminator series.

    I agree with this. It seems that the Iconians were not great in number. Perhaps a long or slow birth rate. With them drive out of their out their subjugated vassals, they may have need a new vassal race to help manage their culture. They have have creaed the Elachi to fulfill that need.
  • badname834854badname834854 Member Posts: 1,186 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Iconians = Shadows

    Elachi = Drakh

    Pretty obvious.

    Discuss.
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