Yeah I think they did an "expanded universe" type deal on the Silent Enemy aliens from ENT. I love this idea & hope to see more in the future. It's a shame they didn't see the already created fiction out there though & work from that. Might have been a licensing issue though.
Yeah, the Elachi are clearly the aliens from that Enterprise episode. A connection to the Schisms aliens is also made clear by the way they abduct individuals.
I think they were the Hur'q, too, although STO doesn't make that connection.
I really hope that we get a FE series regarding the Elachi. I'd love to understand where they came from, what they want, why they allied with Sela, and what their ultimate purpose is...
I mean, surely they aren't going to stop at the romulans, right?
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Either way they seem like space bullies, they pick on the weak (the scattered Romulan people) and the unaware/naive (the NX01 Enterprise, even going as far as TRIBBLE with them) but when someone fights back they go running rather quickly.
Yeah, the Elachi are clearly the aliens from that Enterprise episode. A connection to the Schisms aliens is also made clear by the way they abduct individuals.
I think they were the Hur'q, too, although STO doesn't make that connection.
What makes you think they're the H'urq?
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Vertian sounds like a rare particle trace, so they had to find a new name, I guess. The Schisms ... yeah ... now that you meowntioned it, it could be that race as well.
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I think the Elachi and the Iconians are related somehow. Not necessarily as similar species, but it had to have been Hakeev's exploration of the Iconian Portals that led him to encounter and ally with the Elachi.
My current thought is that the Elachi tried to turn the Iconian's trade and technology empire into a military one and 'became' the Iconians as far as anyone else knew. The rest of the galaxy then ganged up on them and drove them into subspace or something.
When Picard found the Iconian gate he pointed out that there were no weapons controls, and the device seemed more suitable for exploration than conquest, and also that victors write history. So it may well be that the Iconians were peaceful scientists who were overwhelmed by the Elachi.
New thought: The Elachi aren't a species at all, but constructs, like biological Data's. They don't breed, and thus need raw materials to create replacements, which is why they abduct so many people. If this is the case, then they may well have been created by the Iconians, who were overthrown by their creations, as in the Terminator series.
I think the Elachi and the Iconians are related somehow. Not necessarily as similar species, but it had to have been Hakeev's exploration of the Iconian Portals that led him to encounter and ally with the Elachi.
My current thought is that the Elachi tried to turn the Iconian's trade and technology empire into a military one and 'became' the Iconians as far as anyone else knew. The rest of the galaxy then ganged up on them and drove them into subspace or something.
When Picard found the Iconian gate he pointed out that there were no weapons controls, and the device seemed more suitable for exploration than conquest, and also that victors write history. So it may well be that the Iconians were peaceful scientists who were overwhelmed by the Elachi.
New thought: The Elachi aren't a species at all, but constructs, like biological Data's. They don't breed, and thus need raw materials to create replacements, which is why they abduct so many people. If this is the case, then they may well have been created by the Iconians, who were overthrown by their creations, as in the Terminator series.
Are you saying that the Elachi are the demons of air and darkness?
I could totally go with that idea. Severe plot twists from our expectations.
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Well, Hur'q isn't an actual name- it's just the Klingon word for "outsider." They invaded Qo'nos a thousand years prior, stole a bunch of stuff, and that's pretty much all we know. Worf thought they were extinct, but we don't know if that is actually correct.
Elachi come off as Subcontractors for the Borg. Just when Cryptic knew we were getting tired of fighting Borg, they just reskin them and give them the same abducting agenda. :rolleyes:
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I think the Elachi and the Iconians are related somehow. Not necessarily as similar species, but it had to have been Hakeev's exploration of the Iconian Portals that led him to encounter and ally with the Elachi.
My current thought is that the Elachi tried to turn the Iconian's trade and technology empire into a military one and 'became' the Iconians as far as anyone else knew. The rest of the galaxy then ganged up on them and drove them into subspace or something.
When Picard found the Iconian gate he pointed out that there were no weapons controls, and the device seemed more suitable for exploration than conquest, and also that victors write history. So it may well be that the Iconians were peaceful scientists who were overwhelmed by the Elachi.
You and Picard made a mistake any first year researcher would make. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Just because there were not weapon controls, doesn't mean they were a peaceful culture. For example, I see thousand upon thousand of vehicles that have no weapons on them. That doesn't strongly indicate there are no vehicles with weapons.
New thought: The Elachi aren't a species at all, but constructs, like biological Data's. They don't breed, and thus need raw materials to create replacements, which is why they abduct so many people. If this is the case, then they may well have been created by the Iconians, who were overthrown by their creations, as in the Terminator series.
I agree with this. It seems that the Iconians were not great in number. Perhaps a long or slow birth rate. With them drive out of their out their subjugated vassals, they may have need a new vassal race to help manage their culture. They have have creaed the Elachi to fulfill that need.
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Either way, they are scumbags (from a lore standpoint) and monsters.
Which is why I can't wait to have my characters blast more of them into their component atoms.
I think they were the Hur'q, too, although STO doesn't make that connection.
Elachi is an infamous double eagle or an eastern spice...
I mean, surely they aren't going to stop at the romulans, right?
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What makes you think they're the H'urq?
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My current thought is that the Elachi tried to turn the Iconian's trade and technology empire into a military one and 'became' the Iconians as far as anyone else knew. The rest of the galaxy then ganged up on them and drove them into subspace or something.
When Picard found the Iconian gate he pointed out that there were no weapons controls, and the device seemed more suitable for exploration than conquest, and also that victors write history. So it may well be that the Iconians were peaceful scientists who were overwhelmed by the Elachi.
New thought: The Elachi aren't a species at all, but constructs, like biological Data's. They don't breed, and thus need raw materials to create replacements, which is why they abduct so many people. If this is the case, then they may well have been created by the Iconians, who were overthrown by their creations, as in the Terminator series.
Are you saying that the Elachi are the demons of air and darkness?
I could totally go with that idea. Severe plot twists from our expectations.
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Well, Hur'q isn't an actual name- it's just the Klingon word for "outsider." They invaded Qo'nos a thousand years prior, stole a bunch of stuff, and that's pretty much all we know. Worf thought they were extinct, but we don't know if that is actually correct.
Plus I think their symbol looks an awful lot like the Elachi ships.
I'm just saying, that if STO's writer wished to create a connection, there's nothing in canon to contradict it.
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You and Picard made a mistake any first year researcher would make. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Just because there were not weapon controls, doesn't mean they were a peaceful culture. For example, I see thousand upon thousand of vehicles that have no weapons on them. That doesn't strongly indicate there are no vehicles with weapons.
I agree with this. It seems that the Iconians were not great in number. Perhaps a long or slow birth rate. With them drive out of their out their subjugated vassals, they may have need a new vassal race to help manage their culture. They have have creaed the Elachi to fulfill that need.
Elachi = Drakh
Pretty obvious.
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