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mercenary4hiremercenary4hire Member Posts: 116 Arc User
Vulcans.
The second most important race in the Federation.
Spock, T'Pol, Tuvok, Surak..
They are the race that made Star Trek back in TOS with Spock.
What do they get? A pathetic Dkyr without a special console but some support craft and not even a Vice Admiral ship.
Cryptic has the rights of all the Star Trek series. Therefore they have the ability to include some of the other ships we saw in the series. Like the following ship.
The Suurok Class.
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070605054608/memoryalpha/en/images/9/98/TiMur_front.jpg
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Suurok_class
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzGTuZHDbXo Vulcan ships in STL
Science vessel and/or combat cruiser.
Just to let Cryptic know, I will buy this ship the minute it comes out, as long as it's a Vice Admiral Tier V ship with a nice console and exact same looks. That's not much to ask for considering there are tons of ships that fulfill these requirements.
Thank you for reading.
Live long and prosper.
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  • msk5msk5 Member Posts: 185 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    There will likely be a new Vulcan ship when the Founders of the Federation three-pack is made and released. Geko has said as much, along with an Andorian broadsider and a Tellarite cruiser.
  • carbongripcarbongrip Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I would love to see more vulcan starships put in game!
  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    edited July 2013
    We should have had this ingame rather than the current one.
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  • misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I'd like a modernized (as in decent hull material, windows) version of an actual 24th century Vulcan ship:

    http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100723214105/memoryalpha/en/images/1/1d/T%27Pau_type_studio_model.jpg

    http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Apollo_class

    while it was used as a freighter in the shows, I think there could be a science/explorer version...at least the Apollo class was.
    Just like the Olympic was used as a dedicated medical ship yet became a science ship in STO.
  • lykumlykum Member Posts: 382
    edited July 2013
    Oooo can't wait! There's a lot for cryptic to take advantage of, especially the minor race ships!
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  • mercenary4hiremercenary4hire Member Posts: 116 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    misterde3 wrote: »
    I'd like a modernized (as in decent hull material, windows) version of an actual 24th century Vulcan ship:

    http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100723214105/memoryalpha/en/images/1/1d/T%27Pau_type_studio_model.jpg

    http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Apollo_class

    while it was used as a freighter in the shows, I think there could be a science/explorer version...at least the Apollo class was.
    Just like the Olympic was used as a dedicated medical ship yet became a science ship in STO.

    Those look terrible, the Enterprise versions looks much nicer
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  • misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Those look terrible, the Enterprise versions looks much nicer

    Honest question: in what way do they look terrible...do you mean the shape which can be made a bit smoother with a computer model than one scratchbuilt from hand, or the surface details? Because that's what I metioned the idea to modernize it. The oringinal Romulan Bird of Prey model from Balance of Terror also looked a lot less detailed than its STO counterpart.

    Also, when you look at other studio models without added special effects...they don't look like much either.:)

    http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m62wkm9Xfn1rzu2xzo1_1280.jpg
  • misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I managed to find the concept design for the ship, which shows a somewhat more elegant shape...similar to the differences between the original concept art for the TNG shuttles and the models they actually built, the studion model is lacking.

    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_9_iMNcLAXpg/TUWIXMkG22I/AAAAAAAABQM/YNd3R0_a3To/s1600/IMG_1484.jpg

    perhaps this could be used as a basis for a decent 2409 refit.
  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    misterde3 wrote: »
    I managed to find the concept design for the ship, which shows a somewhat more elegant shape...similar to the differences between the original concept art for the TNG shuttles and the models they actually built, the studion model is lacking.

    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_9_iMNcLAXpg/TUWIXMkG22I/AAAAAAAABQM/YNd3R0_a3To/s1600/IMG_1484.jpg

    perhaps this could be used as a basis for a decent 2409 refit.

    Well, to me it still looks hideous. I always thought it was hideous, since the first time I saw this ship long time ago. ;)

    If there are new Vulcan ships to be added (which I'd love btw), it's better if they are from the D'kyr era. The ships made in ENT, due to superior graphics technology and visual effects often look more modern and belonging in the 25-th century than some of the TNG ones and especially TOS ones. The T'Varo is a perfect example for this - chronologically it's older than the T'liss, but we have it at Tier 5 because it completely looks from this time and fits the rest of the Romulan fleet perfectly.

    There are many design ideas about Vulcan ships out there on the net, but the ones I like
    most are usually based on the design of the D'kyr and Surak classes. One thing I'd like to have as an option is using the standard Federation hull material on those ships, so they look like they belong to Starfleet, just not following on the basic Human design.

    I'd love to see a Surak class Vulcan crusier anyway. :)
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  • lan451lan451 Member Posts: 3,386 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Suurok class would be cool. I like it better than the D'kyr. Personally though I rather like the design on the future Vulcan cruiser. I know they just stuck three nacelle rings on it but I still like it. After all if it worked for the Gal X why not on a Vulcan ship? :P

    Since we aren't anywhere near the year that it's commissioned, maybe just something sort of close to it to show a progression of development leading up to it. Maybe smaller too, it looks freakin' huge.
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  • misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    shpoks wrote: »
    Well, to me it still looks hideous. I always thought it was hideous, since the first time I saw this ship long time ago. ;)

    If there are new Vulcan ships to be added (which I'd love btw), it's better if they are from the D'kyr era. The ships made in ENT, due to superior graphics technology and visual effects often look more modern and belonging in the 25-th century than some of the TNG ones and especially TOS ones. The T'Varo is a perfect example for this - chronologically it's older than the T'liss, but we have it at Tier 5 because it completely looks from this time and fits the rest of the Romulan fleet perfectly.

    There are many design ideas about Vulcan ships out there on the net, but the ones I like
    most are usually based on the design of the D'kyr and Surak classes. One thing I'd like to have as an option is using the standard Federation hull material on those ships, so they look like they belong to Starfleet, just not following on the basic Human design.

    I'd love to see a Surak class Vulcan crusier anyway. :)

    Well, I think we'll need to agree to disagree on this particular ship.:)
    On the one hand I absolutely agree on the T'varo, which is a T'liss in basic design but with more advanced (typical 24th century) features and details.
    On the other hand however the T'Pau type, while lacking in details in its current incarnation, has an overall design that is actually quite different.
    While the "warp rings" on the 22nd century ships always look delicate and somewhat sensitive, the warp drive on the T'Pau type is closer to the hull and almost looks like an additional layer of armor surrounding the engieering section.:cool:
    I think it's a (no pun intended) logical progression of the design that makes the engines less endangered when the ship gets into a firefight.

    So while the 22nd century ships are more advanced in detail, I actually think the T'Pau is more advanced in its actual design. Yes I know it sounds strange but that's how I feel about them.
  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,921 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    msk5 wrote: »
    There will likely be a new Vulcan ship when the Founders of the Federation three-pack is made and released. Geko has said as much, along with an Andorian broadsider and a Tellarite cruiser.

    Where did it say the next Andorian ship is gonna be a broadsider? I hope not because *broadsiders* are a stupid idea.
  • pyryckpyryck Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    lianthelia wrote: »
    Where did it say the next Andorian ship is gonna be a broadsider? I hope not because *broadsiders* are a stupid idea.

    I think we can safely say this poster is a member of the "Jet Fighters ONLY in STO" fan club. ;)

    Broadsiding in a "ship" battle is as old a tactic as fighting with ships is. It's NOT a stupid idea as it works quite well. You have more room for weapons along the length of a ship than you do mounting all the weapons in the small facing at the front of a ship.

    Besides, having more ship options available to players in STO is ALWAYS a good thing...unless all of those options are limited to "jet fighters" only. ;)
  • mercenary4hiremercenary4hire Member Posts: 116 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    If Cryptic does make a new Vulcan ship or a 3-pack I will be the first to buy it. There are so many threads on here of people looking for a vulcan ship, Cryptic you would make a lot of money!
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  • walshicuswalshicus Member Posts: 1,314 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Whatever happens, I just want the standard Starfleet hull materials to be available to the Vulcan ship designs.

    Romulans get "Vulcan Brown" after all.
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  • misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    walshicus wrote: »
    Romulans get "Vulcan Brown" after all.

    I don't think that's "Vulcan Brown"...it's the brown the other Romulan ship (the unnamed sister ship of the Valdore) that helped the Enterprise in "Nemesis" had.
  • walshicuswalshicus Member Posts: 1,314 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    misterde3 wrote: »
    I don't think that's "Vulcan Brown"...it's the brown the other Romulan ship (the unnamed sister ship of the Valdore) that helped the Enterprise in "Nemesis" had.

    Which was Vulcan brown. ;)
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  • misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    walshicus wrote: »
    Which was Vulcan brown. ;)

    Only if the Vulcans have a monopoly on evrey brown tone in the Star Trek universe.
    Even the most brownish Vulcan ships were a lot more reddish tones than either the ship from "Nemesis" or the brown tone avilable in STO.:)

    Check out the screencaps from "Nemesis" if you think I'm trolling you:

    http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=565&page=5

    http://images.wikia.com/memoryalpha/en/images/c/c1/D%27Kyr_type%2C_aft_starboard_particle_beam.jpg

    http://images.wikia.com/memoryalpha/en/images/6/6e/ShRaan_aft%2C_closeup.jpg
  • scififan78scififan78 Member Posts: 1,383 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Might as well add a shuttle to that list.
  • yreodredyreodred Member Posts: 3,527 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I'd love to have a T5 Vulcan Combat Cruiser, maybe a modernized version of the ship we saw in ENT.
    Maybe a similar BOFF/Console Layout like the D'Kora, i just hate the fact that CRYPTIC made a Ferengi (!) ship so effective, while making Starfleet Cruisers so boring and passive.

    I think it would be cool if that ship would feature something like a heavy Beam array, a DHC with the looks of a DBB.
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  • dracounguisdracounguis Member Posts: 5,358 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    lianthelia wrote: »
    Where did it say the next Andorian ship is gonna be a broadsider? I hope not because *broadsiders* are a stupid idea.

    I thought cruisers were already the broadsiders. ;)
    Bet it'd come with a side firing torpedo launcher.
  • redshirtthefirstredshirtthefirst Member Posts: 415 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I love all things Vulcan (an emotion): my main is Vulcan, all my BOs, most of my DOFFs, have lirpa, Sehlat on and on... oh and flying a conny named USS T'Pau.

    If I had the spare zen, I would still buy the Dkyr for collection sake and as a 'cruise boat'. But I would sure love to have a tac vulcan cruiser at least as comparable to the Kunari line of ships. a 5k zen 3-pack would rock.

    Make it Cryptic and watch that line of players forming at the register!

    P.S.: Please, if it ever happens, make sure there is at least a specific bridge to it :)
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