This needs to be permanently accessible. Shangdu FTW! There ought to be a questline to get a VIP pass for that place since there are bouncers.
The building needs a 1 on 1 fight club, a place for dancers to make money on that stage, and lots of alcohol consumption.
You can even take shots here, and the NPC chatter is amazing. All fairness it has a lot more personality than Drozana which kinda has lost its appeal since the redesign.
Anyway, like I was sayin', shrimp is the fruit of the sea. You can barbecue it, boil it, broil it, bake it, saute it. Dey's uh, shrimp-kabobs, shrimp creole, shrimp gumbo. Pan fried, deep fried, stir-fried. There's pineapple shrimp, lemon shrimp, coconut shrimp, pepper shrimp, shrimp soup, shrimp stew, shrimp salad, shrimp and potatoes, shrimp burger, shrimp sandwich. That- that's about it. - Bubba
And considering how we leave the place...it should surely be open to new management and a new clientele. Like that Borg fellow at Paradise and whoever is cool enough to fight their way to the bar.
Anyway, like I was sayin', shrimp is the fruit of the sea. You can barbecue it, boil it, broil it, bake it, saute it. Dey's uh, shrimp-kabobs, shrimp creole, shrimp gumbo. Pan fried, deep fried, stir-fried. There's pineapple shrimp, lemon shrimp, coconut shrimp, pepper shrimp, shrimp soup, shrimp stew, shrimp salad, shrimp and potatoes, shrimp burger, shrimp sandwich. That- that's about it. - Bubba
Never got why people liked the pre LoR Drozana so much. But I can understand someone wanting a place such as that in the game. Shangdu is a wide open anything goes type of place. Perhaps the Devs should allow it to become the new 'Old Drozana Station'. Make it a special instance which is separate from the mission one and only accessible after the Nimbus III missions are completed. As to the owner - Who else but Q? You want wide open anything goes with minimal restraint and consequences, I can't think of anyone better to run the place.
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Never got why people liked the pre LoR Drozana so much. But I can understand someone wanting a place such as that in the game. Shangdu is a wide open anything goes type of place. Perhaps the Devs should allow it to become the new 'Old Drozana Station'. Make it a special instance which is separate from the mission one and only accessible after the Nimbus III missions are completed. As to the owner - Who else but Q? You want wide open anything goes with minimal restraint and consequences, I can't think of anyone better to run the place.
Oh man...Q! I endorse this for sure. I'm just glad to see I wasn't the only one floored by this place. The line of people and the signs were a great touch. Then the people QQing about us cutting the line!
Anyway, like I was sayin', shrimp is the fruit of the sea. You can barbecue it, boil it, broil it, bake it, saute it. Dey's uh, shrimp-kabobs, shrimp creole, shrimp gumbo. Pan fried, deep fried, stir-fried. There's pineapple shrimp, lemon shrimp, coconut shrimp, pepper shrimp, shrimp soup, shrimp stew, shrimp salad, shrimp and potatoes, shrimp burger, shrimp sandwich. That- that's about it. - Bubba
The place has "Character" More then anything ESD or any of the fed starbases have. Way more then either the old or the new Drozana (Drozana cold use one more make over.. knock out the wall behind the bar, and put in a stage, podium, and orchestra pit...a "venue" for live performances.. Sure, thier holodecks and all that, but nothing is ever going to replace a live perfomance, even in the 25th century...And any Ferengi understands that if you have some that draws customers, and entertains them, they pay more!... Open floor in the middle (dance floor area and booths.. Screened booths around the edge of the room (screen in that if folks are inside engaged in RP..they cannot be "overheard".
But the club we PC's bust up on Nimbus-III. Yea, That we could use. the truely seedy side of intersteller commerce. Even give it its own sub-exchange... for dealing in black market goods..
And there are people in the trek universe who do want to play "the criminal underground"
Give them a hub.. You might find thats theres more then you realize! (I know of a number of Federation players who are about the worst example of a Starfleet Captain I can imagine... If they want to act like vicious petty thugs then by all means, lets get them thier well deserved courtsmartail, kick them out of starfleet and send them on thier merry way in thier own personal shuttlecraft.. or fighter with instructions to never set foot on ESD again or they'll end up with a long term guest apperance at a federation penal colony.
One specefic addition I would add to such an establishment... PvP enabled... NPC's don't react unless you shoot them... but it you really want to be a jerk, by all means, lets have a place where the kid gloves come off... Toss in some force field shielded booths for patrons to duck into now and again who do not wish to take part in the occsional firefight (which will break out the first time some jerk crown one of my Orion female characters there... SHaving a batleth through them would be soooooo satisfying...Even more fun watching the fans decend apon them for a quick recreational drawing and quartering) and have a 5 min lock out if your character gets killed in the instance- Bouncer won't let you in until the timer expires)
It won't be for everyone. Several of my KDF characters would never set foot in such a place, And my Romulans would only go there under orders, But I have two Orion female characters that would consider it a fine place to go to blow off steam and performs an act of murder against certain "other" players....
*ehem* Devs might just want to stay far far far away from the place though.... Because to be fair, and Dev that steps into the place should be under the same rules as the players, and well, someone doing a Lord British to JamJamz, D'Stahl, etc.. could be a little embarassing. You just don't want someone venting thier displesure apon your character every time you walk in.
The place has "Character" More then anything ESD or any of the fed starbases have. Way more then either the old or the new Drozana (Drozana cold use one more make over.. knock out the wall behind the bar, and put in a stage, podium, and orchestra pit...a "venue" for live performances.. Sure, thier holodecks and all that, but nothing is ever going to replace a live perfomance, even in the 25th century...And any Ferengi understands that if you have some that draws customers, and entertains them, they pay more!... Open floor in the middle (dance floor area and booths.. Screened booths around the edge of the room (screen in that if folks are inside engaged in RP..they cannot be "overheard".
But the club we PC's bust up on Nimbus-III. Yea, That we could use. the truely seedy side of intersteller commerce. Even give it its own sub-exchange... for dealing in black market goods..
And there are people in the trek universe who do want to play "the criminal underground"
Give them a hub.. You might find thats theres more then you realize! (I know of a number of Federation players who are about the worst example of a Starfleet Captain I can imagine... If they want to act like vicious petty thugs then by all means, lets get them thier well deserved courtsmartail, kick them out of starfleet and send them on thier merry way in thier own personal shuttlecraft.. or fighter with instructions to never set foot on ESD again or they'll end up with a long term guest apperance at a federation penal colony.
One specefic addition I would add to such an establishment... PvP enabled... NPC's don't react unless you shoot them... but it you really want to be a jerk, by all means, lets have a place where the kid gloves come off... Toss in some force field shielded booths for patrons to duck into now and again who do not wish to take part in the occsional firefight (which will break out the first time some jerk crown one of my Orion female characters there... SHaving a batleth through them would be soooooo satisfying...Even more fun watching the fans decend apon them for a quick recreational drawing and quartering) and have a 5 min lock out if your character gets killed in the instance- Bouncer won't let you in until the timer expires)
It won't be for everyone. Several of my KDF characters would never set foot in such a place, And my Romulans would only go there under orders, But I have two Orion female characters that would consider it a fine place to go to blow off steam and performs an act of murder against certain "other" players....
*ehem* Devs might just want to stay far far far away from the place though.... Because to be fair, and Dev that steps into the place should be under the same rules as the players, and well, someone doing a Lord British to JamJamz, D'Stahl, etc.. could be a little embarassing. You just don't want someone venting thier displesure apon your character every time you walk in.
All this. Wonderful stuff thanks for the input.
I doubt my Fed would much visit it either except on Shore Leave, but I too see it as a great place that someone needing seedier contacts would use. I want this place mainly for my Romulan Republic char. It is perfect for the liberty loving space pirate motley crew motif I have going for them.
Anyway, like I was sayin', shrimp is the fruit of the sea. You can barbecue it, boil it, broil it, bake it, saute it. Dey's uh, shrimp-kabobs, shrimp creole, shrimp gumbo. Pan fried, deep fried, stir-fried. There's pineapple shrimp, lemon shrimp, coconut shrimp, pepper shrimp, shrimp soup, shrimp stew, shrimp salad, shrimp and potatoes, shrimp burger, shrimp sandwich. That- that's about it. - Bubba
Obviously a lot of work was done on this map to give it character. It's a shame you can't visit it after you have liberated it from the Orions. It would also give you a reason to beam down to Nimbus.
This happens (and it gets a nice doff task set), this'd be my toons home from home
Although instead of an all out pvp zone (I could see certain gpvp builds/fleets making the place a hellhole, let alone the danger of the classic 'block safe zone off so anyones targettable'), how about use the 'Moxxis arena' as a pvp zone or even for team pve (like in the mission) - make it entertaining, add some 100 ec bets on the winner (or random result npcs) , maybe dabo (a table stolen off a wrecked d'kora, naturally) and some unique boosts (such as bonus crith for an hour, ect)
And considering how we leave the place...it should surely be open to new management and a new clientele. Like that Borg fellow at Paradise and whoever is cool enough to fight their way to the bar.
I didn leave the place... I removed it.
Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
i endorse this as well, even parts of Khemarra's post, however i don't think PvP should be always on, at least in the effect that you can be harmed in the bar area. what could be done is if one player pulls their weapon and attacks another (you can still attack but not do damage), if the other player also attacks they get whisked off to the arena next to the bar and fight it out with their boffs at their side.
and if the attacked player refuses to respond, the attacking player gets hit with a stun beam and teleported outside to wait out their disruption of the bar
and it would be poetic justice for a bunch of ill mannered players to see a dev, attack him and the dev not respond and they just get teleported out continually....i would laugh at that, so much
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i endorse this as well, even parts of Khemarra's post, however i don't think PvP should be always on, at least in the effect that you can be harmed in the bar area. what could be done is if one player pulls their weapon and attacks another (you can still attack but not do damage), if the other player also attacks they get whisked off to the arena next to the bar and fight it out with their boffs at their side.
and if the attacked player refuses to respond, the attacking player gets hit with a stun beam and teleported outside to wait out their disruption of the bar
and it would be poetic justice for a bunch of ill mannered players to see a dev, attack him and the dev not respond and they just get teleported out continually....i would laugh at that, so much
See, that is why I kind of thought the zone behind the forcefield could be an open PvP zone...wouldn't that be spectacular?
Anyway, like I was sayin', shrimp is the fruit of the sea. You can barbecue it, boil it, broil it, bake it, saute it. Dey's uh, shrimp-kabobs, shrimp creole, shrimp gumbo. Pan fried, deep fried, stir-fried. There's pineapple shrimp, lemon shrimp, coconut shrimp, pepper shrimp, shrimp soup, shrimp stew, shrimp salad, shrimp and potatoes, shrimp burger, shrimp sandwich. That- that's about it. - Bubba
Total Support for this idea.
Shagdu should absolutely become a social zone in the game.
Perhaps only visitable after you complete the Nimbus missions.
I'd live to see the combat floor be PvP enabled as well, but how they could do that without making the whole map PvP , I don't know.
Total Support for this idea.
Shagdu should absolutely become a social zone in the game.
Perhaps only visitable after you complete the Nimbus missions.
I'd live to see the combat floor be PvP enabled as well, but how they could do that without making the whole map PvP , I don't know.
Any way we can formally submit this request to the Devs or just let it keep going and building? I think enough people loved Shangdu enough it ought be a permanent fixture.
Anyway, like I was sayin', shrimp is the fruit of the sea. You can barbecue it, boil it, broil it, bake it, saute it. Dey's uh, shrimp-kabobs, shrimp creole, shrimp gumbo. Pan fried, deep fried, stir-fried. There's pineapple shrimp, lemon shrimp, coconut shrimp, pepper shrimp, shrimp soup, shrimp stew, shrimp salad, shrimp and potatoes, shrimp burger, shrimp sandwich. That- that's about it. - Bubba
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And considering how we leave the place...it should surely be open to new management and a new clientele. Like that Borg fellow at Paradise and whoever is cool enough to fight their way to the bar.
There has never been a more wretched hive of scum and villainy! :cool:
Would be a nice place to start Foundry missions, too.
Oh man...Q! I endorse this for sure. I'm just glad to see I wasn't the only one floored by this place. The line of people and the signs were a great touch. Then the people QQing about us cutting the line!
It's like how I wanted the dance club/bar on Space Dock to look like the one in Star Trek III.
The place has "Character" More then anything ESD or any of the fed starbases have. Way more then either the old or the new Drozana (Drozana cold use one more make over.. knock out the wall behind the bar, and put in a stage, podium, and orchestra pit...a "venue" for live performances.. Sure, thier holodecks and all that, but nothing is ever going to replace a live perfomance, even in the 25th century...And any Ferengi understands that if you have some that draws customers, and entertains them, they pay more!... Open floor in the middle (dance floor area and booths.. Screened booths around the edge of the room (screen in that if folks are inside engaged in RP..they cannot be "overheard".
But the club we PC's bust up on Nimbus-III. Yea, That we could use. the truely seedy side of intersteller commerce. Even give it its own sub-exchange... for dealing in black market goods..
And there are people in the trek universe who do want to play "the criminal underground"
Give them a hub.. You might find thats theres more then you realize! (I know of a number of Federation players who are about the worst example of a Starfleet Captain I can imagine... If they want to act like vicious petty thugs then by all means, lets get them thier well deserved courtsmartail, kick them out of starfleet and send them on thier merry way in thier own personal shuttlecraft.. or fighter with instructions to never set foot on ESD again or they'll end up with a long term guest apperance at a federation penal colony.
One specefic addition I would add to such an establishment... PvP enabled... NPC's don't react unless you shoot them... but it you really want to be a jerk, by all means, lets have a place where the kid gloves come off... Toss in some force field shielded booths for patrons to duck into now and again who do not wish to take part in the occsional firefight (which will break out the first time some jerk crown one of my Orion female characters there... SHaving a batleth through them would be soooooo satisfying...Even more fun watching the fans decend apon them for a quick recreational drawing and quartering) and have a 5 min lock out if your character gets killed in the instance- Bouncer won't let you in until the timer expires)
It won't be for everyone. Several of my KDF characters would never set foot in such a place, And my Romulans would only go there under orders, But I have two Orion female characters that would consider it a fine place to go to blow off steam and performs an act of murder against certain "other" players....
*ehem* Devs might just want to stay far far far away from the place though.... Because to be fair, and Dev that steps into the place should be under the same rules as the players, and well, someone doing a Lord British to JamJamz, D'Stahl, etc.. could be a little embarassing. You just don't want someone venting thier displesure apon your character every time you walk in.
All this. Wonderful stuff thanks for the input.
I doubt my Fed would much visit it either except on Shore Leave, but I too see it as a great place that someone needing seedier contacts would use. I want this place mainly for my Romulan Republic char. It is perfect for the liberty loving space pirate motley crew motif I have going for them.
Obviously a lot of work was done on this map to give it character. It's a shame you can't visit it after you have liberated it from the Orions. It would also give you a reason to beam down to Nimbus.
Although instead of an all out pvp zone (I could see certain gpvp builds/fleets making the place a hellhole, let alone the danger of the classic 'block safe zone off so anyones targettable'), how about use the 'Moxxis arena' as a pvp zone or even for team pve (like in the mission) - make it entertaining, add some 100 ec bets on the winner (or random result npcs) , maybe dabo (a table stolen off a wrecked d'kora, naturally) and some unique boosts (such as bonus crith for an hour, ect)
... heck, for something like that I'd buy zen!
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I didn leave the place... I removed it.
and if the attacked player refuses to respond, the attacking player gets hit with a stun beam and teleported outside to wait out their disruption of the bar
and it would be poetic justice for a bunch of ill mannered players to see a dev, attack him and the dev not respond and they just get teleported out continually....i would laugh at that, so much
See, that is why I kind of thought the zone behind the forcefield could be an open PvP zone...wouldn't that be spectacular?
Shagdu should absolutely become a social zone in the game.
Perhaps only visitable after you complete the Nimbus missions.
I'd live to see the combat floor be PvP enabled as well, but how they could do that without making the whole map PvP , I don't know.
Any way we can formally submit this request to the Devs or just let it keep going and building? I think enough people loved Shangdu enough it ought be a permanent fixture.