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would a ship with no cmdr slot be more powerful than with?

skollulfrskollulfr Member Posts: 5,407 Arc User
edited July 2013 in PvP Gameplay
i was thinking about builds & boff power synergies and i wondered if a layout of

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as opposed to the current layouts, and this made me think that actually dropping the cmdr station could easily result in competitive vessels.

you guys stew this stuff over constantly, so what do you think?
as much as i may be mad, am i right or wrong?

(the build i thought of for this was for a "destroyer" craft with
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i bet someone will instantly think of what setup a ship like that would be good for)
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  • magniacapramagniacapra Member Posts: 544 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    It would be competitive.... But when a Fleet D'Deridex and Recluses exist.... Meh.
  • vegie0vegie0 Member Posts: 480 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    This needs clarification. Are you asking if instead of a Cmdr,Ltcmdr,Lt,Lt,Ens setup a ,Ltcmdr,Ltcmdr,Lt,Lt,Ens would be competetive?

    If so no... this I hate to say, is like asking if a ship with 5 tac consoles would be less or equally as Pew heavy as a ship with 4. The math says +25% is a good thing. Now if this is not what you are going for, clarify please.
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  • magniacapramagniacapra Member Posts: 544 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Also, In your examples, you have no ensigns, is this intentional?
  • vegie0vegie0 Member Posts: 480 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Evaluating your post also confuses me. As it appears you want to know about a Ltcmdr,Ltcmdr,Lt,Lt,Lt build... but this removes one High level boff seat in favor of lower level boff seats. This seems to just be a bad idea. As APO 3 is sooooo much better then APO1. So why get rid of APO3 for something like Haz 2. You will see more from APO3.

    The same goes for Engie and Sci powers. Cmdr ability is > Lt ability.
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  • magniacapramagniacapra Member Posts: 544 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I'd prefer either of those bridge officer layouts to some of the 3x tac or engineering ensign versions we have, but if your looking for simply the most optimal? Like I said, recluse and d'deridex are far more potent layouts imo.
  • naeviusnaevius Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    3 Lts is not so great, but what about

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  • magniacapramagniacapra Member Posts: 544 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    They have 12, they get away with it by having no lieutenants
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  • scurry5scurry5 Member Posts: 1,554 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    skollulfr wrote: »
    then their wiki info is wrong.
    fleet dex
    4+1+3+4+1=13

    recluse
    1+4+4+1+3=13

    Uh, why do you have 2 commander stations in your calculations?
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  • lordfuzunlordfuzun Member Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    skollulfr wrote: »
    click them and find out.:mad:
    geez....


    that is their stats in the wiki.

    You're wrong. The Recluse only has 1 Commander Universal Station. 2 Lt commander stations and 2 Ensign Stations.
  • scurry5scurry5 Member Posts: 1,554 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    skollulfr wrote: »
    click them and find out.:mad:
    geez....


    that is their stats in the wiki.
    lordfuzun wrote: »
    You're wrong. The Recluse only has 1 Commander Universal Station. 2 Lt commander stations and 2 Ensign Stations.

    Yep, look closer. You mixed up the Lt Commander and Commander stations. 3 Gold pips is commander, 1 black pip and 2 gold pips is Lt Commander.
  • stardestroyer001stardestroyer001 Member Posts: 2,615 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    To be honest, I was thinking of something similar the other day, but far less likely to be effective.

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    A very radical shift in ship builds for such a vessel, and I have no clue whether this would be "meh" or considered OP. On the one hand, you could have a very tanky escort.
    TT - APB - CRF - APO
    EPtS - Aux2SIF - Aux2SIF - RSP
    TSS - Hazards - TSS - PSW

    Again, this came directly from stardestroyer's Random Thought Generator, and may be the stupidest or most OP idea on the planet. You've been advised. :)
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  • rudiefix1rudiefix1 Member Posts: 420
    edited July 2013
    Make the fleet Norgh theoretical weaker by swapping a Cmdr for LTC and it may get stronger:

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    I can see lots of possibilities here
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