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Nerf of the Shield Adaptive Frequency Generator

therealfluffytherealfluffy Member Posts: 0 Arc User
From the release notes:
  • The Shield Adaptive Frequency Generator on the Valdore has be tuned so it no longer outpaces its intended healing rate.
So, how to I return this item and get my 1000 Zen back?
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  • ajma420ajma420 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    From the release notes:
    • The Shield Adaptive Frequency Generator on the Valdore has be tuned so it no longer outpaces its intended healing rate.
    So, how to I return this item and get my 1000 Zen back?

    I completely agree.

    God forbid they give us a console that actually does something without nerfing it a month later.

    Its not OP, its good. theres a difference.
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  • omegaphallicomegaphallic Member Posts: 101 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    By how much has it been nerfed by?
  • ruminate00ruminate00 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Do you guys think a 30k shield heal isn't overpowered?
    Do you guys even know what the nerf does?
  • mimey2mimey2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Wow, this didn't take long.

    You call it a nerf, but it is actually a bug fix, nothing more, nothing less.

    Once it's fixed on Holodeck tomorrow, then we can see if it needs an actual nerf, or if it is fine.
    I remain empathetic to the concerns of my community, but do me a favor and lay off the god damn name calling and petty remarks. It will get you nowhere.
    I must admit, respect points to Trendy for laying down the law like that.
  • therealfluffytherealfluffy Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    ruminate00 wrote: »
    Do you guys think a 30k shield heal isn't overpowered?
    Do you guys even know what the nerf does?

    I can agree with you on this statement but that was not what my post was about. The item is no longer what I payed for so I want to return it.
  • hyplhypl Member Posts: 3,719 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Huh, still works fine for me. This thing had a tendency to overheal waaay too much, so if they fixed that, whoop de doo. It's still a good console to have for a warbird.
  • packer3434packer3434 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I can agree with you on this statement but that was not what my post was about. The item is no longer what I payed for so I want to return it.

    But it is doing what you paid for. After this patch it will do what it said it would.

    I don't use this console but from someone I know who does use this console told me that it can't be called a nerf. It's supposedly still very useful.
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  • pyryckpyryck Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I can agree with you on this statement but that was not what my post was about. The item is no longer what I payed for so I want to return it.

    Oh it is the very same item that you payed for, it's just that the calculations that support your item have been tweaked to not deliver unintended or overly large shield heals. :P
  • therealfluffytherealfluffy Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    pyryck wrote: »
    Oh it is the very same item that you payed for, it's just that the calculations that support your item have been tweaked to not deliver unintended or overly large shield heals. :P

    Which is the same thing to say that it does no longer work the way it was specified when I bought it. If the console happens to proc during a volley with a burst damage of 15k I'd expect to see 30k shield heal just as the item states. It may be OP in most peoples' opinion, I don't deny that, but that was the claimed stats of this console when I purchased it and if Cryptic change this I expect a refund.
  • skurfskurf Member Posts: 1,071 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Which is the same thing to say that it does no longer work the way it was specified when I bought it. If the console happens to proc during a volley with a burst damage of 15k I'd expect to see 30k shield heal just as the item states. It may be OP in most peoples' opinion, I don't deny that, but that was the claimed stats of this console when I purchased it and if Cryptic change this I expect a refund.
    The item states that it will heal for double your attack damage?
    (this is a serious question as I don't have a Rommie and don't know what the description states)
  • linkjoylinkjoy Member Posts: 60 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    From the release notes:
    • The Shield Adaptive Frequency Generator on the Valdore has be tuned so it no longer outpaces its intended healing rate.
    So, how to I return this item and get my 1000 Zen back?

    Good Luck dude, never going to happen. you would have to bring it small claims court for that.
  • ruminate00ruminate00 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    skurf wrote: »
    The item states that it will heal for double your attack damage?
    (this is a serious question as I don't have a Rommie and don't know what the description states)

    Yes, but the nerf has nothing to do with the example he gave. He's just being loud and ignorant.
    People were getting 30k heals off sustained 5k damage, not burst damage, and that is what was nerfed - or rather, fixed.

    You can read about the bug here:
    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=747721&page=22
  • linkjoylinkjoy Member Posts: 60 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    ruminate00 wrote: »
    Yes, but the nerf has nothing to do with the example he gave. He's just being loud and ignorant.
    People were getting 30k heals off sustained 5k damage, not burst damage, and that is what was nerfed - or rather, fixed.

    but that's not his point dude
  • msk5msk5 Member Posts: 185 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    If you want a refund because you paid for a broken item, the proper time to ask was BEFORE this patch, not after.

    The console was double-dipping, so it was healing for far more than it was ever meant to. Just wait, its still a really good console worth equipping, now its just not aggressively ridiculous. You can still get big procs off it, especially if you run Beam Overload 3 or use Singularity Overcharge often with high crit rate. You'll still be seeing heals over 20k, just not anywhere near as often.

    To illustrate, I had a double-dip proc of this console on BO3 for over 160k shield hp. That is messed up, and needed to be fixed.
  • ruminate00ruminate00 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    linkjoy wrote: »
    but that's not his point dude

    He has no point because the console is doing exactly what its description states after the patch.
  • msk5msk5 Member Posts: 185 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    hypl wrote: »
    Huh, still works fine for me. This thing had a tendency to overheal waaay too much, so if they fixed that, whoop de doo. It's still a good console to have for a warbird.

    Also, I think CaptainGeko has something he'd like to say to you:

    https://twitter.com/CaptainGeko/status/350033901592387584

    Much love to Geko.
  • erei1erei1 Member Posts: 4,081 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    msk5 wrote: »
    Also, I think CaptainGeko has something he'd like to say to you:

    https://twitter.com/CaptainGeko/status/350033901592387584

    Much love to Geko.
    Awesome.

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  • manzorianmanzorian Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Well, I saw this coming. So, I say let's start a campaign to make sure the Scimitar consoles get "bugged" fixed also. Or should I say "nerfed"...? lol
  • defalusdefalus Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    There's a difference between "my zen" and "my money". If I grind dil, trade for zen, buy item, I ain't giving Cryptic my money so someone else is paying for my zen. ;)

    Also, the console was in serious need of tuning, if something is too good in this game, expect a nerf. Buyer beware as they say. :P
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  • manzorianmanzorian Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    defalus wrote: »
    There's a difference between "my zen" and "my money". If I grind dil, trade for zen, buy item, I ain't giving Cryptic my money so someone else is paying for my zen. ;)

    Also, the console was in serious need of tuning, if something is too good in this game, expect a nerf. Buyer beware as they say. :P

    Very true indeed. It's the PvP side of this game that raised a stink about this console.

    This game is NEVER tested on Tribble for bugs. Even if players submit bug reports, PWE either doesn't fix them or takes weeks or even months to "attempt" to fix bugs.

    This is what we all get for a F2P game that is all about gouging it's players for cash all the time.
  • el1mel1m Member Posts: 63 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    The Bug is in serous need of tweeking so by the same logic we should also see a nerf to that but we all know that is never going to happen
  • marikaoniki1marikaoniki1 Member Posts: 85 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    el1m wrote: »
    The Bug is in serous need of tweeking so by the same logic we should also see a nerf to that but we all know that is never going to happen

    No, you see, the JHAS is Working As Intended. The console, however, was giving heals above and beyond what was both intended AND stated. There's a big difference.
  • linkjoylinkjoy Member Posts: 60 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    defalus wrote: »
    There's a difference between "my zen" and "my money". If I grind dil, trade for zen, buy item, I ain't giving Cryptic my money so someone else is paying for my zen. ;)

    Also, the console was in serious need of tuning, if something is too good in this game, expect a nerf. Buyer beware as they say. :P

    But that goes both ways, the whole DIL exchange and DIL is based on a fake economy that people use real money for. Otherwise the DIL exchange wouldn't exist.
  • newromulan1newromulan1 Member Posts: 2,229
    edited June 2013
    if you wish to have a debate on this console you need to go to the PvP sub-forum - there you will find MANY MANY people who would like to argue with you about this console.

    Several PvP players cried nerf(and still want it nerfed heavily) I asked that Cryptic take a long - hard and deep look at this consoles effects across the board - particularly for PvE players - and not just go with PvP cries about it being Over powered(op) - which I got a lot of flack from fellow PvP players.

    While they continue to collect data - they found that the console coding did infact let it do something that WAS NOT INTENDED or described in it's description(basically a stacking problem)

    Therefore this is actually a bug fix and NOT the Nerf that the PvP community has been calling for.

    Captain Geko has stated several times that he does not want to "nerf" paid for consoles unless there is a extreme reason to do so.

    At this point so far they have not indicated plans to "nerf" this or any other of the new LoR consoles.
  • sunfranckssunfrancks Member Posts: 3,925 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    msk5 wrote: »
    Also, I think CaptainGeko has something he'd like to say to you:

    https://twitter.com/CaptainGeko/status/350033901592387584

    Much love to Geko.

    Indeed, spotted that myself.

    Nice to know Al Rivera (aka CaptainGeko), is just as unprofessional as normal, in his trolling ways. :rolleyes:

    Will he ever be surpassed? Who knows! :P
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  • lordmanzelotlordmanzelot Member Posts: 468 Arc User
    edited June 2013
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  • sunfranckssunfrancks Member Posts: 3,925 Arc User
    edited June 2013
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    Post sale! cannot affect all that money flowing in..... ;)
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  • lordmanzelotlordmanzelot Member Posts: 468 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    CaptainGeko you evil troll :eek:
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  • el1mel1m Member Posts: 63 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    No, you see, the JHAS is Working As Intended. The console, however, was giving heals above and beyond what was both intended AND stated. There's a big difference.

    How is it working as intended, It has the speed and power of an Escort with the survivability of a Cruiser. It is an Unbalanced ship but it will never be balanced because sadly the P2W cadre who fly these ships have Cryptics ear because that is where most of their money comes from. Its the same reason that everything else that even approaches the Bugs level of Overpowered gets nerfed because they whine until it happens! They want to fly around in their little unbeatable ships thinking they are Lord Lucan when in fact they just P2W. I assume you belong to that cadre!
  • lordmanzelotlordmanzelot Member Posts: 468 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Can i equip this console in any other ship? ... so i want it.
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