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age03age03 Member Posts: 1,664 Arc User
What are we suppose to do with lower tier ships?These are ships T3 and lower.I still have mine on all chars.

It would be nice to have an erea where you can use them or an easy play mode other than normal.
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  • tc10btc10b Member Posts: 1,549 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Boil em, mash em, put em in a stew.

    No seriously, as of yet there is no need for lower tier ships, although in my fleet we occasionally do low tier ship PvP with all white gear.

    There is also unsubstantiated rumor that the next big thing coming is Boff ships.
  • rustiswordzrustiswordz Member Posts: 824 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    You can get pretty much fleet / retrofit versions of most low tier vessels now. So there is no reason to give up on them when you get to 50.
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  • tc10btc10b Member Posts: 1,549 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    You can get pretty much fleet / retrofit versions of most low tier vessels now. So there is no reason to give up on them when you get to 50.
    Yes and no, it doesn't convert the ship you already have. You still need to do something with it. Most likely get rid of it for the ship slot.
  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    ok at the risk of catching yet more abuse

    personally I keep some lower tier ships for sentimental reasons (for example I occasionally swap to my Original science ship and hang around in exploration areas)
    some things don't need fire power (scanning for traces for example)

    it is of course extremely bad manners to take them into a pug

    BUT a team mission in t2 ships can be interesting (by the way its possible to complete cure normal in a t2 science ship team it just takes a VERY long time and you won't get the optional)
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  • rustiswordzrustiswordz Member Posts: 824 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    @ TC10b

    Have you taken a Tier 1 ship into a lvl 50 STF. I have, you get one shotted everytime. Not a good idea.

    Unless they allow you to upgrade your ship to higher specs at a discount your only option is to get rid of the ships to make room for the nice shiny ones sooner or later you will obtain.

    Sad but true.
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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,016 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    If the whole ship tier system doesn't get an overhaul which would allow you to upgrade your ships to endgame standard (which would allow us to see more than the default 3 ships in endgame content) lower tier vessels have no reson to exist except for the refit versions which come with a console.

    Leveling in STO is very fast paced, unrewarding and boring. They could easily just scrap lower tiers and let everyone start at 50 (or remove levels alltogether) since nothing before T5 is of any value.
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  • notapwefannotapwefan Member Posts: 1,138 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    give them your girlfriend as a break up settlement
    (obviously, left hand as your gf doesn't count)
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  • vorga113vorga113 Member Posts: 192 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I've had a few not completely thought through ideas about what Cryptic could do with all of those "spare" ships regardless of there tier.

    First off, increase the total number of boffs you can have but have boffs assigned to specific ships. That way each ship can have it's own powers\abilities set up independently, so if you change ships everything is ready to go without having to mess around setting up the right boffs, power trays etc.

    At lvl 50 everyone is an Admiral (or eqivalent) and those spare ships are your personal fleet so why not order them to do something? A sort of ship-doffing system, you assign ships to various sectors to perform missions the success is based on how "good" the ships boffs are (based on rarity & skill levels) and how "good" the ship is (based on tier, class & equipment). So sending a Miranda out with no shields or weapons and all white boffs to patrol for True Way ships isn't going to end well, but the same ship transporting Stem Bolts between Earth and Risa will probably manage it.

    Also if the ships are assigned to specific sectors they could then give you remote access to doff missions in those sectors but maybe not the personal or DH missions for those remote sectors.
  • scififan78scififan78 Member Posts: 1,383 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I would love to see them work out a system that allows you to tag any ship for the Fleet Support ability. When you activate it, it will warp in the ships you tagged. These ships would ignore any special equipment you have on it and will work like the current fleet support ships.
  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,708 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    age03 wrote: »
    What are we suppose to do with lower tier ships?These are ships T3 and lower.I still have mine on all chars.

    It would be nice to have an erea where you can use them or an easy play mode other than normal.

    Why easy mode.. i use my heavy escort in Elite STF with no problems. In fact the only T5 ships i fly are my Breen, Intrepid retro, Galaxy Dreadnought and Breen.

    My Akira, intrepid, Defiant and T3 ambassador still see action on regular basis and perform flawlessly.
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  • baudlbaudl Member Posts: 4,060 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    i only keep the TOS conny, i didn't even bother to keep the starter ship
    the other t1-t4 ships from the c-store i claim once per character, take the console out and dismiss them right after that.
    right now i only keep T5 ships with 10 cosnole slots...all the other 9 console variants i emtyed out and dismissed too.

    personally i see no reason other than sentimental issues to keep inferior ships, they surve no perpose.

    maybe something similar like starfleet command or starfleet legacy where you did actually command a small fleet (3 ships or so)
    before missions you choose the ship you wanted to use, the other 2 act as your permanent "companions" like in ground combat.

    could be an idea, choosing your ship before combat, already set up and ready to go...one for dmg, one for tanking/healing and one for croud control.
    would also explain or give meaning to your rank, admiral...
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  • thumpyechothumpyecho Member Posts: 298 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    tc10b wrote: »
    Boil em, mash em, put em in a stew.

    No seriously, as of yet there is no need for lower tier ships, although in my fleet we occasionally do low tier ship PvP with all white gear.

    There is also unsubstantiated rumor that the next big thing coming is Boff ships.

    ...with regard to the Boff Ships part....I've heard that too: the line of progression I've heard/read/hypothesized is Cryptic raises the level cap, player characters go to full Admiral, and then promote Boffs to Captains, and they perform assignments.....to get back on track.....I don't discharge 'em just because I know as soon as I do, Cryptic will release something that requires them, so here I sit like a hoarder......
  • johngazmanjohngazman Member Posts: 2,826 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    tc10b wrote: »
    There is also unsubstantiated rumor that the next big thing coming is Boff ships.

    Why put boffs in T3 ships? Why not put them in T5 ships instead?
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  • foundrelicfoundrelic Member Posts: 1,380 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    With the exception of the very first ship you get, I've discharged all of mine. I won't be flying them again so why not make room for bigger and better ships?
  • dylanggctdylanggct Member Posts: 42 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    scififan78 wrote: »
    I would love to see them work out a system that allows you to tag any ship for the Fleet Support ability. When you activate it, it will warp in the ships you tagged. These ships would ignore any special equipment you have on it and will work like the current fleet support ships.

    Totally agree that would be pretty sweet.
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  • johnnymo1johnnymo1 Member Posts: 697 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I want the rumored bridge officers in command of your spare ships to be true. I would definitely think that the ships and bridge officers you assign to them would allow all those powers and gear put on the ships. While they could be used as fleet support I'd rather see them appear while running missions like how the Enterprise F shows up when running Romulan dailies. There could be watered down versions of endgame content that can be soloed with a number of your bridge officer ships in tow, give lesser rewards, say a quarter of the number of marks but a way to open up traits on bridge officers that are put in command of other ships that only activates when in command of a ship.
  • age03age03 Member Posts: 1,664 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    questerius wrote: »
    Why easy mode.. i use my heavy escort in Elite STF with no problems. In fact the only T5 ships i fly are my Breen, Intrepid retro, Galaxy Dreadnought and Breen.

    My Akira, intrepid, Defiant and T3 ambassador still see action on regular basis and perform flawlessly.

    Why so we can use these ships go try the first mission saving in T1 ship.

    I use my T4 and 5 in normal or elite stfs.I ma fan of the 23rd Century Star Trek Kirks era and I know others are to.

    I would get rid of tiers and vring in class system the more MKX gear on that ship would increase its class.
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  • jetwtfjetwtf Member Posts: 1,207
    edited June 2013
    They make great storage for ship equipment freeing space in your bank. Thats about all they are good for. If they come out with an upgrade feature then all those ships will have considerable value. But then events for using ships that are equiped for certain levels would add value as well by giving you a reason to keep the ship as it was equipped when you level past it. Last thing is the boff fleet i keep seeing mentioned as another way to add value.
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  • mosquito214mosquito214 Member Posts: 138 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Some I keep around because I'm thinking of getting the C-Store or Fleet version and I like to check out different customization options. That's why I've still got my T4 Defiant, for instance. Some I keep because I really like the look, but don't want or have access to the shipyard/credits for the fleet version, which is why I still have my T2 Saber and Nova.

    I do delete my T1 and most of my earlier ships now, though.
  • thlaylierahthlaylierah Member Posts: 2,991 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I delete the few lower level ships I have as I replace them with Fleet variants.

    Until then they store all my extra ship equipment, which I then move to the Fleet variant.
  • age03age03 Member Posts: 1,664 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Some I keep around because I'm thinking of getting the C-Store or Fleet version and I like to check out different customization options. That's why I've still got my T4 Defiant, for instance. Some I keep because I really like the look, but don't want or have access to the shipyard/credits for the fleet version, which is why I still have my T2 Saber and Nova.

    I do delete my T1 and most of my earlier ships now, though.
    That t4 Defiant is still usefull even in STFs.

    I really like the look of the classic cruisers and would like to use them now and then.
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  • theanothernametheanothername Member Posts: 1,513 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    age03 wrote: »
    What are we suppose to do with lower tier ships?These are ships T3 and lower.I still have mine on all chars.

    It would be nice to have an erea where you can use them or an easy play mode other than normal.

    I once made the "strange new worlds" daily with my T2 Constitution Refit (MK XI+ equip). The random space battle against a few True Way ships took longer than with a T5 ship of course but was doable and fun :)
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