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johnny111971
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Something else that has gotten under my skin lately. Since the Nukara Hard missions were moved to the Queues, Star Trek Online doesn?t require me to Trek anywhere.
For the last two days, I have found that I can complete my entire day without once changing sectors, or traveling anywhere (outside of the Insta-Travel when queue missions start). I literally feel that we all have the power of Q? able to appear in an instant where ever we so choose, and pop back to where we came from? no muss, no fuss, AND no social interact and no shared experience.
Heck most queue missions the only communication going on most of the time is ?Help!? or ?ty gg?.
There was a time when you had to go somewhere to join a mission. Even for queue missions, there were known ?hangouts? for certain things. DS9 Was the STF hangout (because of the Borg Shop), K7 used to be the Fed PVP Hangout, Dronza was the RP?er, and so on. While you were there you intereacted with people, building teams, chatting waiting on the 5th player to be ready, you build relationships, and made friends (and even some enemies). A shared experiences breeds friendship and camaraderie.
Do people still use specific hubs for these types of purposes?
For the last two days, I have found that I can complete my entire day without once changing sectors, or traveling anywhere (outside of the Insta-Travel when queue missions start). I literally feel that we all have the power of Q? able to appear in an instant where ever we so choose, and pop back to where we came from? no muss, no fuss, AND no social interact and no shared experience.
Heck most queue missions the only communication going on most of the time is ?Help!? or ?ty gg?.
There was a time when you had to go somewhere to join a mission. Even for queue missions, there were known ?hangouts? for certain things. DS9 Was the STF hangout (because of the Borg Shop), K7 used to be the Fed PVP Hangout, Dronza was the RP?er, and so on. While you were there you intereacted with people, building teams, chatting waiting on the 5th player to be ready, you build relationships, and made friends (and even some enemies). A shared experiences breeds friendship and camaraderie.
Do people still use specific hubs for these types of purposes?
Star Trek Online, Now with out the Trek....
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How many various facets can we pull into this thread?? no, i'm not being facetious. When i first started this game a few months ago, i was stunned by how wonderfully the federation storyline was woven together. I was excited, I wanted and wished i had the money for a subscription ( fifteen dollars a month can feed me for three days and i have to consider that first ). then i made a klingon character.. WTF?? Oh yeahhh, the original federation storyline was created by another company who in the past was well known for their games and story telling.. Then i tried Using payPal as a F2P player. i aint rich, but my account is solid and good and paypal only takes out the amount that i'm supposed to be paying but it pays instantly like using a debit card.. guess what.. F2P players cant use PayPal.. No way i'm getting a subscription with practices like that.. The factions have been neglected, the stories cut in half, the content twisted and manipulated so that ONLY the most prosperous, wealthy and fortunate can get it ( after filling Cryptics coffers with even MORE cash ). no, theres no way I'll ever get a subscription, and as for lifetime membership?? Sorry, no way. Even if the game were perfect ( and its very far from that ) I've got a terminal disease and i'm not spending 300 dollars on a game that i only have one or two years to theoretically enjoy.. it just aint happening..
You're right. The issue is that the grind has taken overhand. There are way too many currencies being used in game. EC, Dill, Lobi, Latinum and probably even some stuff I'm forgetting. On top of that there are now 4 different reputation/mark systems and tons of stuff you need for fleet bases. Just getting your daily amount of dilithium, marks and special doff missions takes quite some time. Imagine how much more time would be required if you had to travel everywhere and gather a group. I agree that the Trek has gone missing. If it is to come back, the grind will also have to be put back to a normal level. Otherwise it's overkill.
I know i dont.. I'm not really much of a role player.. guess its just a lack of imagination or perhaps the drive to do so.. I'm not really into PvP either.. Since Nam i've had this weird thing about killing other human beings in any form.. Tat leaves STF's.. You all know the state of the galaxy and those that occupy it. Everyone just wants to spam their ships special effects or sit around all aloof, self important and cool looking ( or so they think ).. Nowadays i just stick with my fleet or join the PvE queues for stfs.. the rest of it really isnt worth it any more..
In other words, GO!!! There is plenty of game out there beyond the queue, but you gotta get in your ship and go look for it.
I'm new, and I'm F2P. I haven't unlocked Diplomacy Rank 3 or 4. I doff alot. I'm still doing storyline quests. I have to say, at my current level of experience and progression, I can't NOT fly around in my lvl 40 ship at warp 9.97 trying to do nearly everything I want to do.
::WARNING:: This game is not intended for use as a source of self-esteem.
This is an excellent point that I hadn't really considered (my main toons have leveled in Omega and Rom reps, and both are on T5 of Nukara( so I am focusing only on 1 rep + dil).
Its funny to me that the whole purpose Dilithium came out was to reduce the number of in game currencies there were... and if I'm correct, we have more now than before Dilithium.
Star Trek Online, Now with out the Trek....
No they need big brother to do it for them, it's like yelling at the city for adding a subway system, and complaining it's making you fat because you don't have to walk to work anymore.
heh. i here ya.. I'm lvl 50 personally, and I'd LOVE to do all of that. but the constant grinding to build rep ( the constant need to do estf's for dil ) the constant demands from the game and my own precious fleet for more dil ( which they need because of the demands of the game ) make it impossible to do anything except sit there running estfs all day if i ever hope to have a rats chance in hell of enjoying anything here before i frikkin die.. Frankly, I'm a bit more than tired of it. there is no trek in trek any more. just this constant grind for dil and EC..
If you don't enjoy any of that, why are you doing it?
their was a time sto was a fun grind that drop stf gear then the slide bars came....
system Lord Baal is dead
All that stuff we played before the slide bars is still there, and we don't need the latest MK XII gadget to play it.
Except for the DS9 fleet action, they really need to bring that back
Yes on DS9
But, I have to disagree on the first comment, its there... in some form. But that form has really become a watered down, wash rinse, repeat, grindable form. Unfortunately, thats the direction the dev's/publisher want the game to go.
So I can not go to Gamma Orionis and still do KA the way it came out, nor Infected, or Cure... Terradome is still there, and still a marathon (and still buggy).
Star Trek Online, Now with out the Trek....
Certainly true on the STFs, they no longer exist in their original form.
I still think there is plenty out there in the game, but you gotta choose to go do it. However, I will agree that Cryptic should certainly make an effort to give players more things to do out there and more reasons to go out into the far corners of space. Maybe the long-hinted at exploration revamp could help in that regard...
im quoting my self to show i updated my op and to see if and one can guess what i was trying to do with it
i give a hint comes from star trek generations
system Lord Baal is dead
They might exist ... in a master file ... but unfortunately so far too few players have asked for their reinstatement .
As things stand , the only place that's left that a player can "loose" himself is the Foundry .
It's that or move them sliders , grind that grind .
That's said I don't do grind missions because I don't want to be in a time loop doing stuff over and over again. Even my Facebook games are more amusing then STO is at the moment. Let's say I do have a LTF account and I bought it when the gold cards where gone that was before PWE took the staff.
Also I would point out the great work the devs did on the romies and KDF side there aren't many new missions with the KDF, they put in FED missions rewrite text and they launched it maybe you didn't notice it but if you are a long time player like me you know what i'm saying.
The only thing I do play is the fleet missions replay some old storylines to get some EC to buy stuff for the starbase not much more then that.
Sometimes I buy some zen convert it to dillitium and put it into the SB project.
But overal I agree with all here that they put more and more que missions ( GRIND ) into the game and far to little story lines....
Greets
"Coffee: the finest organic suspension ever devised. It's got me through the worst of the last three years. I beat the Borg with it."
I like being able to do everything I need to do from a single 'hub'. I've taken to using Drozana as my 'hub', because it offers everything I want except a boff trainer, and I was getting tired of hanging around Qo'noS (the only KDF-specific place that offers a boff trainer).
Every time Cryptic tries to insert 'Trekking' into the game, it turns out boring or not well done. Exploration? Boring and routine as hell, I'd rather run dailies than do exploration missions.
I try to make my playing style as "Trek" as I can. Any ideas on how to use the resources already available in this game to accomplish this would be appreciated. What I do now is:
I don't transwarp anywhere that I can get to by setting a course and just flying there. It gives me a better sense of space. it still takes a very short time to get to places in the game though. It would be cool if it took a while to get from sector to sector and random stuff happened on the way like in a traditional RPG. Like orders to stop by at planet X to investigate something, or a subspace call from a system you are passing, or a a new space-faring race wandering about the sector that you could talk to. That all would be cool. It might also be too complicated to program that. I don't know.
Also, whatever sector I happen to be in, I load up on the longest duty officer missions available to me. That makes me want to hang around for a few days and poke around until they are done as if I actually went someplace.
Nimbus is part of the "Wasteland" story arc, which you can access from the episodes menu. You should have also received a mission from Drake for it on log in for no cost.
Sector space in STO is IMO the most unimaginative space I have ever encountered in a science fiction game. It's just a bunch of rectangular boxes. I wish the devs would somehow get entirely rid of that and have us always travel in 'normal' space.
The queue system also has made sure that I always park my characters in one social hub and only move them for DOff missions.
New Romulus has tobe the best but the missions aren't all that rewarding. Deferi Invasion is pretty well rounded though there is one section blocked off still for some reason.
Risa & Defera planet city side are just empty for some reason, not even a trading post on them for some odd reason. That's a simple add for kontent.
-V