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praxi5praxi5 Member Posts: 1,562 Arc User
edited June 2013 in PvP Gameplay
So, for the lulz, I think I'm going to turn my Rom Tac (Fed) into a Zombie/healer Escort. Crazy, I know.

I'm considering either the Fleet Ha'Feh or Fleet Dhelan and am looking for advice as to which would be better overall.

Fleet Dhelan
Cmdr Tac: TacTeam 1, CSV 1, CRF 2, APO 3
Ens Tac: TacTeam 1
Lt Eng: EPtS 1, Aux to SIF 1
Lt Uni (Eng): EPtS 1, RSP 1
LtC Sci: TB 1, HE 2, TSS 3
LtC Sci: (Alternate) HE 1, TSS 2, FBP 2

Fleet Ha'feh
Cmdr Tac: TacTeam 1, CSV 1, CRF 2, APO 3
Ens Eng: EPtS 1
Lt Eng: EPtS 1, Aux to SIF 1
Lt Sci: HE 1, TSS 2
LtC Sci: (Uni) HE 1, TSS 2, SciTeam 3

Thoughts? Suggestions?

As Renim pointed out, it would probably be better as a healer if I use dual TacTeams and a Delta. However, I want to keep my Tac Boffs fully offensive (except for the TacTeams) so that I'm still effective as an Escort.

Please no Aux to Batt builds, I hate running those :P
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  • renimaltrenimalt Member Posts: 219 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    That ain't a healer! Where's the APD? :P If you've got a Cm Tac, least you can do is run TT1, TT2, APD2, APD3. Your team will thank you! :D

    And why go for the AtSIF? Everyone knows that shield-extending escorts are in fashion this season!

    </silliness>

    Semi-seriously, if you're going to insist on making a healer escort with Cm Tac, then the pure-healz loadout would probably be something like:

    Chimera (would also work on Ha'feh):
    Cm Tac: TT1, TT2, APD2, APD3
    Ens Eng: EPtS1
    Lt Eng: EPtS1, AtSIF1 (alt. ExS1)
    Lt Sci: HE1, TSS2
    LtC Sci: ST1, HE2, TSS3

    Alt. Chimera:
    Cm Tac: TT1, TT2, APD2, APD3
    Lt Eng: EPtS1, ExS1, AtSIF2
    LtC Eng: EPtS1,AtSIF1 (alt. ExS1)
    Lt Sci: HE1, TSS2
    Ens Sci: TSS1

    (Grab AtSIF doffs if you're going for this variant; their proc can more than double the total healing from an AtSIF1.)

    Alt. Ha'feh:
    Cm Tac: TT1, TT2, APD2, APD3
    Ens Eng: EPtA1
    Lt Eng: EPtA1, EPtS2
    LtC Eng: EPtS1, ExS1, AtSIF2
    Lt Sci: TSS1, TSS2

    (Grab those EPtA maintenance doffs for this one, if you can still find any.)

    Alt. Ha'feh #2:
    Cm Tac: TT1, TT2, APD2, APD3
    Ens Eng: ET1
    Lt Eng: EPtS1, AtSIF1
    LtC Eng: EPtS1, ExS1, AtSIF2
    Lt Sci: TSS1, TSS2

    (Again, AtSIF doffs will be your friend on this one.)

    You're going to be forced to carry 2xTT and 2xAPD if you want to go all-out with the heals, so you can't really pop ST that often. The first layout is more self-sufficient and focuses on the science heals, while the second is a bit more team-oriented and probably requires AtSIF doffs to perform well. The third is... one of the odder ones I've come up with recently. You lose a few actual heals, but hopefully (?) you can make those up with the EPtA + doffs boost? In any case, both the third and fourth setups lose DoT clear, so make sure you're alright with that.

    Maybe I should see if I can set Renim up with one of these...
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  • praxi5praxi5 Member Posts: 1,562 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Wellllll not all out heals. I want the Tac BOff to be offensive so that I can actually be useful as a healer.

    I went with A2SIF instead of Extend because everyone's got shield heals a plenty nowadays, and with Leadership nerfed, bleedthrough is killing people.

    Edit: Can you actually use more than 1 A2SIF DOff? I thought they were unique.
  • renimaltrenimalt Member Posts: 219 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    praxi5 wrote: »
    Wellllll not all out heals. I want the Tac BOff to be offensive so that I can actually be useful as a healer.

    I went with A2SIF instead of Extend because everyone's got shield heals a plenty nowadays, and with Leadership nerfed, bleedthrough is killing people.

    Whaaaaat? An offensive boff setup? In a healer? For shame, praxis! Speak not of this blasphemy, lest you defile the good name of healers everywhere! :P

    EDIT: Yes, you can use more than 1 AtSIF doff. You can actually use up to 3; that's the cap imposed by the fact that they're Damage Control Engineers. (That's up to 3 active space DCEs total, by the way. No EPtX reduction and AtSIF boost combination for you!)
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  • praxi5praxi5 Member Posts: 1,562 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    renimalt wrote: »
    Whaaaaat? An offensive boff setup? In a healer? For shame, praxis! Speak not of this blasphemy, lest you defile the good name of healers everywhere! :P

    EDIT: Yes, you can use more than 1 AtSIF doff. You can actually use up to 3; that's the cap imposed by the fact that they're Damage Control Engineers. (That's up to 3 active space DCEs total, by the way. No EPtX reduction and AtSIF boost combination for you!)

    You can still do damage as a healer :p

    Disclaimer: That was pre-LoR.

    Hm, interesting. I might have to try a Sci/Recluse with A2SIF 3, 3 of the SIF DOffs and 2 of the EPtA DOffs.
  • renimaltrenimalt Member Posts: 219 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    praxi5 wrote: »

    For shame, praxis! To see one defiling the sacred Hippocratic oath upon which the foundations of healing are buitl! Inflicting harm when one should be proffering heals! The very thought of it brings horror and disgust to any right-minded healer! We must cast you out this venerable society of healers, lest your deviant practices corrupt the malleable minds of the novices! Out! OUT! FOR SHAAAAAAAAAAAAAME! :P

    (Still, nice work! :D)

    I haven't tried combining the EPtA and AtSIF doffs myself, but that would be an interesting experiment. (Also, the AtSIF doffs are on that silly one procs, all proc system. So either you hit the jackpot and your AtSIF heals for crazy amounts and nullifies practically any DoT, or you go bust and your AtSIF is just an ordinary heal.)
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  • praxi5praxi5 Member Posts: 1,562 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    renimalt wrote: »
    I haven't tried combining the EPtA and AtSIF doffs myself

    You should try the EPtA DOff. It seriously sends heals through the roof. I know when I used it on my Vesta, it turned the Fermion Transceiver into a 20 second AoE Godmode.
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    NOTICE: This is not a serious post.

    2pc Dhelan Set...as well as the Valdore and D'ridthau Consoles? Fed Elite Phasers? Both Borg primary and secondary 3pc sets? Reputation: Enhanced Shield Systems, Emergency Secondary Shielding, Quantum Singularity Manipulation, Reinforced Hull, Aux Power Config - Defense, Hull-Repairing Nanites, Superior Shield Repair...[ShH] & [HuH] Emitter consoles?

    ...name it I.R.W. D'coy, eh?

    5/2/3 Consoles, hrmmm...yeah, well...hrmmm.

    Consoles
    Tac - Borg, Singularity Inverter, Sabotage Probe, Shield Absorptive Frequency Generator, Molecular Phase Inverter
    Eng - SIF Mk XII, Nukara
    Sci - FG Mk XII, Embassy Emitter Mk XII [ShH], Embassy Emitter Mk XII [HuH]

    Weapons
    Fore - Omega Torp, 3x Elite Fleet Phaser Beam Arrays
    Aft - Cutting Beam, 2x Elite Fleet Phaser Beam Arrays

    TT1, APD1, APO1, APD3
    FAW1

    EPtS1, AtS1
    EPtS1, ExS1

    TSS1, HE2, ST3

    DOFFs - 2x ME(EPtA), 2x DCE(EPtX), SDO(BFI)

    Singularity Core? Hrmmm... Overcharged? [Res][SCap]...?

    Alien Engineer of course...traits: Accurate, Astrophysicist, Efficient, Elusive, EPS Manifold Efficiency, Grace Under Fire, Precise, Warp Theorist, Techie

    But yeah...Zombie, eh? It's a Zombie, no? Healer, eh? It's a meh healer...

    TBH, it's more of an example of so many things that are wrong in STO...

    NOTICE: This is not a serious post.
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  • praxi5praxi5 Member Posts: 1,562 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    edalgo wrote: »
    Hey Praxis,

    Perhaps you should like about going for a torp boat that way you could run full power to Aux and truly have an impact on healing while throwing out some HY2's or 3's. Majority of your heals are Aux based.

    Thanks to Leech and a W->A core, it's possible to run 125 Weapons and 125 Aux. Even moreso if the Core has that "+Aux based on Singularity Charge" thing.
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    praxi5 wrote: »
    Thanks to Leech and a W->A core, it's possible to run 125 Weapons and 125 Aux. Even moreso if the Core has that "+Aux based on Singularity Charge" thing.

    It is odd. Come a long way since the Torp Boats sinking Weapon Power to have it for Aux 'n Shields with some love for Eng. Now it's just oozing all over the place.
  • scurry5scurry5 Member Posts: 1,554 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    For even more power, you may want to mount those technicians that boost aux while cloaked. They give 15 power each, IIRC.
  • mimey2mimey2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    scurry5 wrote: »
    For even more power, you may want to mount those technicians that boost aux while cloaked. They give 15 power each, IIRC.

    Actually on those...There is one which gives 15 from the DS9 bundle, and there are others anyone can get which give 25.

    They only partially stack. Meaning, two of the 25 ones will not stack, but the 15 and one 25 one will stack to give you 40.
    I remain empathetic to the concerns of my community, but do me a favor and lay off the god damn name calling and petty remarks. It will get you nowhere.
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  • aetam1aetam1 Member Posts: 228 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    praxi5 wrote: »
    So, for the lulz, I think I'm going to turn my Rom Tac (Fed) into a Zombie/healer Escort. Crazy, I know.

    I'm considering either the Fleet Ha'Feh or Fleet Dhelan and am looking for advice as to which would be better overall.

    Fleet Dhelan
    Cmdr Tac: TacTeam 1, CSV 1, CRF 2, APO 3
    Ens Tac: TacTeam 1
    Lt Eng: EPtS 1, Aux to SIF 1
    Lt Uni (Eng): EPtS 1, RSP 1
    LtC Sci: TB 1, HE 2, TSS 3
    LtC Sci: (Alternate) HE 1, TSS 2, FBP 2

    Fleet Ha'feh
    Cmdr Tac: TacTeam 1, CSV 1, CRF 2, APO 3
    Ens Eng: EPtS 1
    Lt Eng: EPtS 1, Aux to SIF 1
    Lt Sci: HE 1, TSS 2
    LtC Sci: (Uni) HE 1, TSS 2, SciTeam 3

    Thoughts? Suggestions?

    As Renim pointed out, it would probably be better as a healer if I use dual TacTeams and a Delta. However, I want to keep my Tac Boffs fully offensive (except for the TacTeams) so that I'm still effective as an Escort.

    Please no Aux to Batt builds, I hate running those :P

    I would not call that a zombie or a healer but such builds a pretty fun in my opinion. Personally I have something similar in a JHEC:

    Cmdr Tac: TacTeam 1, CRF 1, CRF 2, APO 3
    LtC Eng: EPtS 1, RSP1, Aux to SIF 2
    Lt Eng: EPtS 1, Extend1
    Lt Sci: (Uni) HE 1, TSS 2
    Ens Sci: TB1

    I use two con doffs to reduce TT cd. It works pretty well in PUGs. You have decent dmg, decent healing and even a hangar to play with.

    My stomach is clear and my mind is full of bacon!
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