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tilartatilarta Member Posts: 1,802 Arc User
According to Cryptic, 3 Delta Quadrant races will be released.

Ocampan (Starfleet)
Talaxian (Starfleet)
Kazon (KDF)


Does anyone know of an ETA when this will happen?


I really want a Science Starfleet Captain and am holding out until Ocampan becomes playable before I create one.

And to head off the debate of make one now, yes, I could do that, but they'd just be an ordinary Science Captain with nothing unique about them.
Also, I'm keeping some Lockbox Ships in reserve for that Captain to use and, as you are no doubt aware, they're per captain!
I don't want to use such valuable items for a generic Science Captain!

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  • sudoku7sudoku7 Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Erm, what's the source for that information?

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    Ah: http://www.perfectworld.com/news/?p=705951

    Sides haven't really been said there though I don't think.
  • timezargtimezarg Member Posts: 1,268
    edited June 2013
    Noooo, I don't want the Kazon infecting the KDF with their cheapness. They're second-hand Klingons, that's all. Why have Kazon when we already have the real thing?
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  • lordgyorlordgyor Member Posts: 2,820 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Kazon ships were neat, especially thier carriers. Calling the Kazon second rate Klingons is an insult to Klingons.

    Never cared for the Kazon much, but honestly plot wise it makes sense, the Kazon are low hanging fruit, a race of warriors, with a large territory in the Delta Quadrant, desperate for resources and tech, mysogynistic which means super easy pray for Orion Slave Girls. The Jade Empress would be ruling most septs in a month of gaining access to the Delta Quadrant.
  • commanderkassycommanderkassy Member Posts: 1,005 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    tilarta wrote: »
    Kazon (KDF)

    I don't know if you've noticed, but stupidity is up there with dishonor on the Klingon "Do not want" list. They regularly kill people for being bad at their jobs. The Kazon are the very definition of stupidity, a species of lunkheads so useless that even the Borg don't want them.

    No thanks.
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  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I'm a Kazon fan. I loved their ships. I think their culture and story can be explored much more in depth in a game like STO, where I bet Cryptic would have almost carte blanche to do new things with them.

    A lot of things in voyager were mishandled, including the Kazon. But after seeing what Cryptic has done with the KDF (I mean all you die hard Klingon fans up in this thread hating on the Kazon, seem strangely OK with the Nausicaans, Orions, Letheans and Gorn all being part of the empire, with the Gorn even being the top ambassador; seems quite odd to me considering the KDF's very narrow focus in all the shows and movies, anyways ...) and what Cryptic has done with the Romulans (talk about being nothing like the shows and movies, hah).

    So the Kazon would be a great new addition to STO. Almost a blank slate. A bare template to work from. New ships. And a whole lot of potential to create content with.

    For instance, take the fact that the Borg didn't want them. In this STO universe, perhaps we find out more about why the Borg ignored them. And how the two and a half factions can use that to their advantage by allying with the Kazon and using that non-technological aspect, perhaps some savagery or something, to their advantage against the Borg, adding a new twist to the same boring old STFs we've been doing forever.

    Don't sell the Kazon short.

    Oh and the Hirogen already have a relationship with the Romulans, so add them to the list.
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  • erei1erei1 Member Posts: 4,081 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I don't know if you've noticed, but stupidity is up there with dishonor on the Klingon "Do not want" list. They regularly kill people for being bad at their jobs. The Kazon are the very definition of stupidity, a species of lunkheads so useless that even the Borg don't want them.

    No thanks.
    Agreed. In the show they were stupid, and useless. Kind of teenager angry against the rest of the universe because they were treated badly once. With ugly hair.
    And their technology was ligthyears behind the KDF technology.
    People hated them so much they had to remove them as the archenemy, I don't know why they would want to add them now.

    Ocampa, I fail to see why they'd leave their homeworld, even if it's dying. Also, they live 5years top, except for this weird and quite evil colony, but they hate the fed and are extremely few. Which mean they couldn't do the academy (4years to graduate) and live to be promoted afterwards. The STO Storyline is alreay 1year long, on 5 available.

    Talaxian are fine, lorewise, now I'm not sure if I want space squirrel.
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  • oracion666oracion666 Member Posts: 338 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    tilarta wrote: »
    According to Cryptic, 3 Delta Quadrant races will be released.

    Ocampan (Starfleet)
    Talaxian (Starfleet)
    Kazon (KDF)


    Does anyone know of an ETA when this will happen?


    I really want a Science Starfleet Captain and am holding out until Ocampan becomes playable before I create one.

    And to head off the debate of make one now, yes, I could do that, but they'd just be an ordinary Science Captain with nothing unique about them.
    Also, I'm keeping some Lockbox Ships in reserve for that Captain to use and, as you are no doubt aware, they're per captain!
    I don't want to use such valuable items for a generic Science Captain!

    I suggest making your Sci captain now, because you are going to have to wait an awfully long time before any of the above species ever make it into the game. I personally wouldnt mind playing as an Ocampan, but Talaxian? Kazon? No thank you.
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  • steamwrightsteamwright Member Posts: 2,820
    edited June 2013
    I've been a bit puzzled for a while, and I suppose this is as good a spot to ask as any.

    How are these Delta Quadrant races even getting to our game territories? I can sort of see the Hirogen, they were a nomadic race of sorts, so I'd imagine some would drift over the decades, even before encounters with Voyager, to Romulan space.

    Kazon and Ocampa were near the start of Voyager's journey, which was originally around a 70 year trip back home, with the Borg territories in between. I realize the Borg suffered a significant setback, but they're still very present. Voyager only made it in 7 years largely due to Borg help. 2409 puts us around 38 years from Voyager first moment in the Delta Quadrant, so even at full pursuit, wouldn't these races have just over 30 years to go?
  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I've been a bit puzzled for a while, and I suppose this is as good a spot to ask as any.

    How are these Delta Quadrant races even getting to our game territories?

    Transwarp. The Fed has conduits and it's been decades since Voyager got home.
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  • kianazerokianazero Member Posts: 247 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    lordgyor wrote: »
    Kazon ships were neat, especially thier carriers. Calling the Kazon second rate Klingons is an insult to Klingons.

    Well, I've always called the Kazon "Ghetto Klingons" for a reason, considering their 'Gang For Life Mentality' hat.

    I mean, they live in a violent gang-like life, their sector of space is basically Space Los Angeles, steal all their rides, it all fits too well.
  • steamwrightsteamwright Member Posts: 2,820
    edited June 2013
    So basically, the Alpha-Beta governments would go to the Delta Quadrant to recruit. I'd previously thought those conduits would be used under limited, severely-restricted purposes.

    That kind of takes the fun out of exploring when you can access the full galaxy, and bring them all to show the folks back home. I guess the final frontier will now be the Local Group of galaxies.
  • sparhawksparhawk Member Posts: 796 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    tilarta wrote: »
    According to Cryptic, 3 Delta Quadrant races will be released.

    Ocampan (Starfleet)
    Talaxian (Starfleet)
    Kazon (KDF)


    Does anyone know of an ETA when this will happen?


    I really want a Science Starfleet Captain and am holding out until Ocampan becomes playable before I create one.

    And to head off the debate of make one now, yes, I could do that, but they'd just be an ordinary Science Captain with nothing unique about them.
    Also, I'm keeping some Lockbox Ships in reserve for that Captain to use and, as you are no doubt aware, they're per captain!
    I don't want to use such valuable items for a generic Science Captain!

    I vaguely remember these being mentioned an very long time ago, but not anything remotely recent. Have a link source for this?
  • sudoku7sudoku7 Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I don't know if you've noticed, but stupidity is up there with dishonor on the Klingon "Do not want" list. They regularly kill people for being bad at their jobs. The Kazon are the very definition of stupidity, a species of lunkheads so useless that even the Borg don't want them.

    No thanks.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeLqsvFO31o

    I dunno, Stupid is pretty high on the [Ok For Recruit] list.
  • rezkingrezking Member Posts: 1,109 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    tilarta wrote: »
    According to Cryptic, 3 Delta Quadrant races will be released.

    Ocampan (Starfleet)
    Talaxian (Starfleet)
    Kazon (KDF)


    Does anyone know of an ETA when this will happen?


    I really want a Science Starfleet Captain and am holding out until Ocampan becomes playable before I create one.

    And to head off the debate of make one now, yes, I could do that, but they'd just be an ordinary Science Captain with nothing unique about them.
    Also, I'm keeping some Lockbox Ships in reserve for that Captain to use and, as you are no doubt aware, they're per captain!
    I don't want to use such valuable items for a generic Science Captain!

    Meh.
    I'd rather see a full-fledged Dominion Faction first, then the Borg.
    BUT having the Borg Faction first would be forgivable.
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  • tilartatilarta Member Posts: 1,802 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    People seem to get bogged down pretty quick on the aspect of the Ocampan's limited lifespan.
    To hopefully end the debates, I'll do some quick recaps:

    1. The lifespan of an Ocampan is 9 years, not 5.
    2. This lifespan can be artificially extended, some Ocampans lived to be 20.
    3. Ocampans have accelerated learning capability, they can learn in weeks or months what would take a normal person years.

    Also, I'm assuming medical technology has advanced somewhat since then and it would most likely be possible to prolong an Ocampan's life to what we consider the norm.

    Oh and the Hirogen already have a relationship with the Romulans, so add them to the list.

    My initial source for the material does not mention Hirogen in any way.
    So I haven't addressed them in this topic.
    Yes, I'd like a Hirogen option for the Romulans, but well, that didn't happen!

    An unpleasant thought occurred to me that Hirogen might possibly be slated for KDF, but I'd really hate to see that for three reasons:
    1. Romulans are already lacking in species options
    2. I don't like KDF lore/stories/
    3. KDF gameplay bugs are rarely/never fixed

    I'd be really cranky if Hirogen were slated for KDF, since there is no way I'd make a Hirogen if I was forced to endure the KDF nightmare again!


    I'm not big on alting, so making a science officer now and then making another one later doesn't appeal to me.
    Especially when the existing Starfleet species don't really appeal to me.


    As to how they got into the Alpha Quadrant, nobody has ever addressed that in STO lore.
    We're just told they are here, not how they got here.

    I'm assuming they used Borg Transwarp Technology to get close enough, then jumped into a Starfleet or KDF transwarp network to get the rest of the way here.

    I'm assuming the Borg's relentless expansion in the Delta Quadrant was the motivation to leave for safer places to live, they were essentially fleeing the Borg.


    Another theory is that the Ocampans used Caretaker technology to make the journey and they brought the Talaxians with them.

    I doubt this explains the Hirogen and Kazon presence though, unless the Ocampans were compassionate enough to bring their enemies with them as well.

    Just because you don't like someone doesn't mean you're callous enough to abandon them to assimilation and destruction at the hands of the Borg.

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  • valenn1valenn1 Member Posts: 842 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Wow, the 3 most annoying species from Voyager.
    Beta, LTA, CE, Multiple preorder Versions, all Addon Packs except AoY, nearly all KDF/Rom and ~50% of all Fedships, over 25 LockboxShips, Endurer of Atari's "Year of Hell", but...
    unfortunately:

    NOT LOYAL ENOUGH!!!
  • jandraelunejandraelune Member Posts: 100 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    We have a missed out faction as playable from the Alpha quadrant already and is already in STO. Cardassian.

    Already got their ships and avatar modals in, even home world and sector. Would be the next easiest to put in as playable race. Have them as Doff's....Have Bajoran as Doff's, Boff's, playable...they don't really have any ships of their own that are more then fighter/shuttle size or near 100 years old or just sitting parked some place.

    Gamma Quadrant would also be easy. Got most all of them as Doff's already. Got Dominon as Boff's and Doff's. Got Dominon ships. Founders should likely remain as AI controlled...but the Vorta as playable would fit likely better then Jem'Hadar.
  • notapwefannotapwefan Member Posts: 1,138 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I'd rather have the bugs sorted out before rolling new species which will break things even more.
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  • tilartatilarta Member Posts: 1,802 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Well, I'm not really concerned about the Cardassians, because they are coming.

    But they're a seperate faction in themselves and considering we just got one, expecting another one so soon is unfeasible.

    I put an estimate of maybe a year or more before we see the Cardassians as our next faction.

    Don't get me wrong, I really want Cardassians, but we have to be realistic in expecting them to show up.


    As for the Jem'Hadar/Dominion, well, that depends on Cryptic handles the Cardassians.

    My initial theory is that since ingame lore states the Cardassians have aligned with the Federation, they'll be linked to them as a subset faction.
    Kindof like Romulans without the choice.
    Although the KDF fanatics will scream about that!

    My next thought which levels the playing field somewhat in terms of Faction is to split the choice, if you choose to align with Federation, you will play the peaceful Cardassians.
    If you choose the KDF path, you'll be playing as True Way.

    My 3rd idea is that you will actually be playing as True Way, hostile to all sides.
    Although this is the least feasible of all, since True Way would not be able to co-operate in taskforces like Battle Group Omega since they are outlaws.

    And since True Way has Gamma Quadrant species in it, this could be a way we get to play Jem'Hadar, Vorta and Founders.


    If the above is not true, we'll have to wait for an actual Dominion faction, which could take even longer then the Cardassian faction!


    And that's why I'm not really factoring them into this discussion, all of those things take time to implement.

    Whereas a new playable species or even a few is relatively quick by comparison.

    Which is why I'm more interested in new playable species at the moment, since they'll arrive long before we get a new faction.

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    Everytime someone makes a character that is an copy of an existing superhuman, Creativity is sad :'(
  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    tilarta wrote: »
    According to Cryptic, 3 Delta Quadrant races will be released.

    Ocampan (Starfleet)
    Talaxian (Starfleet)
    Kazon (KDF)


    Does anyone know of an ETA when this will happen?


    I really want a Science Starfleet Captain and am holding out until Ocampan becomes playable before I create one.

    And to head off the debate of make one now, yes, I could do that, but they'd just be an ordinary Science Captain with nothing unique about them.
    Also, I'm keeping some Lockbox Ships in reserve for that Captain to use and, as you are no doubt aware, they're per captain!
    I don't want to use such valuable items for a generic Science Captain!

    thing about these delta quadrant races you have to understand is that each of them have to take care of themselves, almost all of them have an isolationist side to them, at least the kazon dont hide this.

    The Ocampans are more concerned with their own short lives and their mind control business then anything around them, they barely reach teen years before they die. not really a suitable race for the federation due the short life span and the female of the race may end up retiring from service about 5 years into her life to have a child.

    the Talaxians seems a bit like romulans in a sense, they are only interested in their own concerns and willing to do trades on anything they can to try survive but i doubt they will show their intent unless provoked, since their homeworld was occupied by the Haakonian order and Rinax destroyed by the Metreon Cascade, their official government belongs to that of the Haakonians. So unless the Haakonians have become less militant and terrorist like the past half a decade, i doubt the Federation would have any interest in talking with them, especially from the account of Neelix on the Voyager.

    Kazon dont like uniforms in any shape or color, so allying with the feds or the KDF is a big no.
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  • milandaremilandare Member Posts: 194 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Telsians. They are ideally suited to Federation life, being gullible enough to put science and directives and stuff ahead of survival. The Ferengi would move them around from quadrant to quadrant for their leet mining skilz.

    Sure, they "never prosecute" yet they have "ways of finding the truth". Obviously they can project this gullibility onto others even as they suffer it themselves. The naive victim easily surrenders the truth, and forgiveness would be there for the asking.

    In game the Telsian on the ground would radiate "Gullibility" (Placate), but would be Placated himself. He'd have a special Expose attack - shouting, "It's a faaake!", points at the target, and everyone "Gullible" is inclined to take a shot at yonder faker. It also works in reverse, a twice-confused NPC might even pick a fake of its own...

    Pretty please? Best Delta Quadrant race ever.
  • cmdrskyfallercmdrskyfaller Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    tilarta wrote: »
    According to Cryptic, 3 Delta Quadrant races will be released.

    Ocampan (Starfleet)
    Talaxian (Starfleet)
    Kazon (KDF)

    I wish they would add hirogen to it as a romulan faction option.

    Talaxian would be the one race I'd roll a character for.

    Traits:

    Techie
    Elusive
    Lucky
    Stubborn
  • tilartatilarta Member Posts: 1,802 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Why does everyone get bogged down in unnecessary details about the Ocampans?
    Especially the factor of their shortlives.

    It's a game, we get to play them because it's fun!
    There's no more reason needed then that.

    If Cryptic were truly serious about playable races, we wouldn't have Saurians, Pakleds, Tellarites or Caitians as playable races, who are barely mentioned in Trek Lore.
    Ferasans don't exist in Trek Lore at all!

    Ocampans at least have the distinction of the fact that a major character was one.

    When Cryptic puts them in the game, they're going to be there, so debates about lore isn't going to change that fact.

    And by the way, next time you're on ESD, go say hi to the Admiral's Ocampan Secretary! ;)


    I'm assuming Talaxians would have Congenial and Tactful as traits.

    I don't know if those traits exist for playable species though, I'm referencing the DOFF trait pool.

    Neelix always struck me as some kind of amateur ambassador, given how he excelled at dealing with other species.

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    Everytime someone makes a character that is an copy of an existing superhuman, Creativity is sad :'(
  • erei1erei1 Member Posts: 4,081 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    tilarta wrote: »
    Why does everyone get bogged down in unnecessary details about the Ocampans?
    Especially the factor of their shortlives.

    It's a game, we get to play them because it's fun!
    There's no more reason needed then that.

    If Cryptic were truly serious about playable races, we wouldn't have Saurians, Pakleds, Tellarites or Caitians as playable races, who are barely mentioned in Trek Lore.
    Ferasans don't exist in Trek Lore at all!

    Ocampans at least have the distinction of the fact that a major character was one.

    When Cryptic puts them in the game, they're going to be there, so debates about lore isn't going to change that fact.

    And by the way, next time you're on ESD, go say hi to the Admiral's Ocampan Secretary! ;)


    I'm assuming Talaxians would have Congenial and Tactful as traits.

    I don't know if those traits exist for playable species though, I'm referencing the DOFF trait pool.

    Neelix always struck me as some kind of amateur ambassador, given how he excelled at dealing with other species.
    They care about the lore, or everyone will make troll post, and before that, CBS will not allow it. For example, someone mentioned the Khazon hating the uniforms, rules and stuff, and they are unlikely to join the KDF.
    The liaison officer have Ocampan ears, doesn't mean she is one. There are a lot of pointy ear alien, and they are not Vulcan. And we don't know her story.

    Pakleds are seen on DS9 all over the place, Tellarites are founders of the federation. They are not often seen as part of an episode, that's all.
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  • tilartatilarta Member Posts: 1,802 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I'm assuming the Kazon would have their own unique costumes and would not necessarily use the standard KDF uniforms.
    Also, it was established in the show the Kazon are smart enough to make mutual alliances if they can benefit from doing so.
    If you've just arrived in a quadrant with few resources, you'd seek out an ally to give you an advantage.
    And I doubt the Klingons would turn down the assistance of a Kazon armada.


    Ocampan ears are very distinctive, I don't believe that any other species would have them.
    And given that this is a Dev created character, that makes it certain that she's meant to be Ocampan.

    Bees like honey, they don't like vinegar.
    Everytime someone makes a character that is an copy of an existing superhuman, Creativity is sad :'(
  • crownvic2doorcrownvic2door Member Posts: 301 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    wait another year or two...
  • scififan78scififan78 Member Posts: 1,383 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    tilarta wrote: »
    Well, I'm not really concerned about the Cardassians, because they are coming.

    But they're a seperate faction in themselves and considering we just got one, expecting another one so soon is unfeasible.

    I put an estimate of maybe a year or more before we see the Cardassians as our next faction.

    Don't get me wrong, I really want Cardassians, but we have to be realistic in expecting them to show up.


    As for the Jem'Hadar/Dominion, well, that depends on Cryptic handles the Cardassians.

    My initial theory is that since ingame lore states the Cardassians have aligned with the Federation, they'll be linked to them as a subset faction.
    Kindof like Romulans without the choice.
    Although the KDF fanatics will scream about that!

    My next thought which levels the playing field somewhat in terms of Faction is to split the choice, if you choose to align with Federation, you will play the peaceful Cardassians.
    If you choose the KDF path, you'll be playing as True Way.

    My 3rd idea is that you will actually be playing as True Way, hostile to all sides.
    Although this is the least feasible of all, since True Way would not be able to co-operate in taskforces like Battle Group Omega since they are outlaws.

    And since True Way has Gamma Quadrant species in it, this could be a way we get to play Jem'Hadar, Vorta and Founders.


    If the above is not true, we'll have to wait for an actual Dominion faction, which could take even longer then the Cardassian faction!


    And that's why I'm not really factoring them into this discussion, all of those things take time to implement.

    Whereas a new playable species or even a few is relatively quick by comparison.

    Which is why I'm more interested in new playable species at the moment, since they'll arrive long before we get a new faction.

    The Empire will not bring the True Way into the KDF. The True Way are honorless dogs that are not even worthy of Grethor.
  • lordgyorlordgyor Member Posts: 2,820 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    tilarta wrote: »
    Well, I'm not really concerned about the Cardassians, because they are coming.

    But they're a seperate faction in themselves and considering we just got one, expecting another one so soon is unfeasible.

    I put an estimate of maybe a year or more before we see the Cardassians as our next faction.

    Don't get me wrong, I really want Cardassians, but we have to be realistic in expecting them to show up.


    As for the Jem'Hadar/Dominion, well, that depends on Cryptic handles the Cardassians.

    My initial theory is that since ingame lore states the Cardassians have aligned with the Federation, they'll be linked to them as a subset faction.
    Kindof like Romulans without the choice.
    Although the KDF fanatics will scream about that!

    My next thought which levels the playing field somewhat in terms of Faction is to split the choice, if you choose to align with Federation, you will play the peaceful Cardassians.
    If you choose the KDF path, you'll be playing as True Way.

    My 3rd idea is that you will actually be playing as True Way, hostile to all sides.
    Although this is the least feasible of all, since True Way would not be able to co-operate in taskforces like Battle Group Omega since they are outlaws.

    And since True Way has Gamma Quadrant species in it, this could be a way we get to play Jem'Hadar, Vorta and Founders.


    If the above is not true, we'll have to wait for an actual Dominion faction, which could take even longer then the Cardassian faction!


    And that's why I'm not really factoring them into this discussion, all of those things take time to implement.

    Whereas a new playable species or even a few is relatively quick by comparison.

    Which is why I'm more interested in new playable species at the moment, since they'll arrive long before we get a new faction.

    I think a Dominion Faction with Cardassians is more likely, after all not all Cardassians betrayed the Dominion and many may have left Cardassia for Dominion space.
  • steamwrightsteamwright Member Posts: 2,820
    edited June 2013
    lordgyor wrote: »
    I think a Dominion Faction with Cardassians is more likely, after all not all Cardassians betrayed the Dominion and many may have left Cardassia for Dominion space.

    If any sense of the lore is to be preserved, then this viewpoint is unlikely. There was more than just a betrayal involved. There was an effort at complete genocide. The Founders had no further use for the Cardassians.

    Founder: "I want the Cardassian population exterminated."
    Weyoun: "Which one?"
    Founder: "All of them! The entire population."
    - What You Leave Behind
  • liquidinkliquidink Member Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I've been a bit puzzled for a while, and I suppose this is as good a spot to ask as any.

    How are these Delta Quadrant races even getting to our game territories? I can sort of see the Hirogen, they were a nomadic race of sorts, so I'd imagine some would drift over the decades, even before encounters with Voyager, to Romulan space.

    Kazon and Ocampa were near the start of Voyager's journey, which was originally around a 70 year trip back home, with the Borg territories in between. I realize the Borg suffered a significant setback, but they're still very present. Voyager only made it in 7 years largely due to Borg help. 2409 puts us around 38 years from Voyager first moment in the Delta Quadrant, so even at full pursuit, wouldn't these races have just over 30 years to go?

    The Iconian Portal on New Romulus could lead to the Delta Quadrant.
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