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25 Years from now...

originalspockoriginalspock Member Posts: 809 Arc User
edited May 2013 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
We will remember how people got angry at every launch date that ever happened and remember it fondly.

I bought STO:CE and somewhere around 2 years of Subscription, and have not paid since then, but happily since STO has gone free to play I have the privilege of playing this game. I know perfectly well I don't deserve to play, but by Cryptics good will they have allowed it. To expect everything to be 100% working for you people who have paid nothing into the game, you people are hypocrites. I am grateful just to login and play, let alone get free expansion packs. I really cannot believe how greedy and low down people are when they pay nothing and still complain. Lifetime people sure, Gold sure, but free to play people really need some perspective.
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  • tali9999tali9999 Member Posts: 173 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Not paying?????

    I bought Lifetime sub.
    I bought Legacy Pack.

    I bought over 1000$ of Zen items at the C-Store over the last 2 years.

    Not that i am feeling entitled to anything.... but ... actually i do.
    :mad:
  • originalspockoriginalspock Member Posts: 809 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    tali9999 wrote: »
    Not paying?????

    I bought Lifetime sub.
    I bought Legacy Pack.

    I bought over 1000$ of Zen items at the C-Store over the last 2 years.

    Not that i am feeling entitled to anything.... but ... actually i do.
    :mad:

    You need to re-read.
  • timm4444timm4444 Member Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    originalspock wrote: »
    We will remember how people got angry at every launch date that ever happened and remember it fondly.

    I bought STO:CE and somewhere around 2 years of Subscription, and have not paid since then, but happily since STO has gone free to play I have the privilege of playing this game. I know perfectly well I don't deserve to play, but by Cryptics good will they have allowed it. To expect everything to be 100% working for you people who have paid nothing into the game, you people are hypocrites. I am grateful just to login and play, let alone get free expansion packs. I really cannot believe how greedy and low down people are when they pay nothing and still complain. Lifetime people sure, Gold sure, but free to play people really need some perspective.

    "Cryptic's good will allows me to play!"


    thanks, I needed the laugh. . .
  • freed89freed89 Member Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Also a lifer, put a hell of alot of money into this game, and i am laughing now, when i got home and started the patch i knew i probably was not going to get the chance to play at all really, and i was right lol, it will work, it will just take some time.
  • originalspockoriginalspock Member Posts: 809 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    timm4444 wrote: »
    "Cryptic's good will allows me to play!"


    thanks, I needed the laugh. . .

    You think you have earned the right to login freely?
  • dracounguisdracounguis Member Posts: 5,358 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    originalspock wrote: »
    To expect everything to be 100% working for you people who have paid nothing into the game, you people are hypocrites..

    I've paid ALOT to PWE/Cryptic, so by your logic my STO should be working. It's not. Does that mean I get a refund?
    originalspock wrote: »
    I am grateful just to login and play, let alone get free expansion packs.

    Since you're playing for free and seem to be a nice guy, just don't play for a week or so, so us payers can login.
  • timm4444timm4444 Member Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    originalspock wrote: »
    You think you have earned the right to login freely?

    Yes, because they took my money. . .

    Because even though how broken/outdated their server architecture is, they will continue to take my money. . .


    people in the real world expect a certain level of service when money changes hands. . .
  • kamenriderzero1kamenriderzero1 Member Posts: 906 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    at this rate, in 25 years we'll all still be sitting here waiting for LoR to work...
    Everywhere I look, people are screaming about how bad Cryptic is.
    What's my position?
    That people should know what they're screaming about!
    (paraphrased from "The Newsroom)
  • originalspockoriginalspock Member Posts: 809 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    dracounguis wrote: »
    I've paid ALOT to PWE/Cryptic, so by your logic my STO should be working. It's not. Does that mean I get a refund?



    Since you're playing for free and seem to be a nice guy, just don't play for a week or so, so us payers can login.

    You can complain all you like, I think you are entitled, as for not playing for a week, just because I am a nice guy, doesn't mean I am stupid. 1 out of thousands of players will not make a difference. However personally I would not be offended if the paid folks got the patch first, and of course they already have priority login.
  • x0ligyx0ligy Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I started playing about month ago, i had high hopes for this game and planned on spending quite abit but after the first week i stopped. I saw no point in paying2play a game thats constantly down and full of bugs that the company simply does not care about. And now with a 7hour wait just to patch files i still do not see a reason for me to re-start my spending, why would i spend on a broken product? I simply wouldn't.

    I do personally feel sorry for those people with subscriptions though because they have lost a few days because of maintenance and down time, and if cryptic had half a brain they could reduce all of this and its been mentioned a few times since ive been on these forums that people would like... Another way to patch there files! I mean what is wrong with downloding a patch from else where at a faster speed then running that as a patcher? Saves time, bandwitdh and complaints from users, but alas we are here in a "Perfect World" with nothing that works for hours.

    Edit:
    7hours to download to get logged out...
    Im going to bed, i guess i'll "see" this update when i get back from work.

    Awesome job Craptic!!!
  • originalspockoriginalspock Member Posts: 809 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    timm4444 wrote: »
    Yes, because they took my money. . .

    Because even though how broken/outdated their server architecture is, they will continue to take my money. . .


    people in the real world expect a certain level of service when money changes hands. . .


    Because I pay you to fix my door, does not entitle me to demand that you build me a house.
  • jelly0jelly0 Member Posts: 560 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    kamenriderzero1 wrote: »
    at this rate, in 25 years we'll all still be sitting here waiting for LoR to work...

    I send a blue prisoner on prisoner exchange with dominion,

    22% Purple
    75% Blue
    3% Green
    0% White

    I get white

    :confused::confused::confused:
  • cha0s1428cha0s1428 Member Posts: 416 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I am not a lifer, nor a subscriber. I guess you would call me one of those free players. I have however given cryptic hundreds od dollars for zen over the span of free to play, so you can't really put us all in that "freeloader" boat.

    However I have also been a part of many game launches, expansions, DLC, etc, and have seen these kind of server issues many many times before, and not just on STO. I had already planned on not being able to play LoR until at least day 2, possibly 3 because I saw this coming. Nothing against cryptic (in this instance) for launch issues, and anyone who didn't plan on this was kidding themselves.
  • jelly0jelly0 Member Posts: 560 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    originalspock wrote: »
    Because I pay you to fix my door, does not entitle me to demand that you build me a house.

    No, it entitles you to a working door.

    He pays to play and he cant play, whats the confusion ?
  • cha0s1428cha0s1428 Member Posts: 416 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    originalspock wrote: »
    Because I pay you to fix my door, does not entitle me to demand that you build me a house.

    No, but you would expect that door to allow you to go inside....
  • jelly0jelly0 Member Posts: 560 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    cha0s1428 wrote: »
    I am not a lifer, nor a subscriber. I guess you would call me one of those free players. I have however given cryptic hundreds od dollars for zen over the span of free to play, so you can't really put us all in that "freeloader" boat.

    However I have also been a part of many game launches, expansions, DLC, etc, and have seen these kind of server issues many many times before, and not just on STO. I had already planned on not being able to play LoR until at least day 2, possibly 3 because I saw this coming. Nothing against cryptic (in this instance) for launch issues, and anyone who didn't plan on this was kidding themselves.

    If someone didnt see this problem coming then they are an idiot, they have multiple games on 1 out dated server.

    As soon as they launched the NW open beta the whole system crashed and screwed both games.
  • timm4444timm4444 Member Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    originalspock wrote: »
    Because I pay you to fix my door, does not entitle me to demand that you build me a house.

    What??


    that made no sense.



    By paying $15 monthly I am allowed to login whenever, Except when the server is down due to scheduled maintenance.


    None of the shenanigans today was scheduled. . .


    So a more apt analogy would be.


    You paid to have a guy fix your door, after he is done you find that you cannot use said door because he made a mistake. . .
  • klaazklaaz Member Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I love the fact that the OP is having to defend his thread from everyone who has posted here because his opinion of cryptic is flawed. I've spent money on this game over the year or so I've played and I've experienced many crashes, bugs, and "unexpected down times" so if you really think that means I'm not going to sit on my TRIBBLE and not complain about what a poor service I'm receiving, then you my friend are dead wrong. Personally after reading your post I've come to believe you are either attempting to troll, which you would be succeeding at, or you are not stupid, but ignorant of how the world works.
  • originalspockoriginalspock Member Posts: 809 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    cha0s1428 wrote: »
    I am not a lifer, nor a subscriber. I guess you would call me one of those free players. I have however given cryptic hundreds od dollars for zen over the span of free to play, so you can't really put us all in that "freeloader" boat.

    However I have also been a part of many game launches, expansions, DLC, etc, and have seen these kind of server issues many many times before, and not just on STO. I had already planned on not being able to play LoR until at least day 2, possibly 3 because I saw this coming. Nothing against cryptic (in this instance) for launch issues, and anyone who didn't plan on this was kidding themselves.


    That is a fair approximation, and you seem to be coming at this from a logical angle, this my topic isn't for the people who PAID, its for the people who didn't. I think somewhere around 30-60$ paid entitles you, because that is the average amount of cost in games these days.
  • xcjinxxcjinx Member Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    You got some brown on your nose
  • lordvalecortezlordvalecortez Member Posts: 479 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    originalspock wrote: »
    You think you have earned the right to login freely?

    Not only have I poured a lot time and money into the company/game with owning damned near everything in the Cstore but I've picked up a rifle and served time defending Crytpic's right to make their game as an expression of art. So F**k yeah I've bloody earned the right!
    Cheers from Antonio Valerio Cortez III, Half-Celestial Archduke of the Free Marches Confederacy.
  • originalspockoriginalspock Member Posts: 809 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    timm4444 wrote: »
    What??


    that made no sense.



    By paying $15 monthly I am allowed to login whenever, Except when the server is down due to scheduled maintenance.


    None of the shenanigans today was scheduled. . .


    So a more apt analogy would be.


    You paid to have a guy fix your door, after he is done you find that you cannot use said door because he made a mistake. . .


    Should I need to give you examples of the numerous times mmo's and non-mmo's with high populations have had issues over the years at launch? Cryptic isn't the first, or second or hundredth. Even Diablo 3 highest purchase PC game of all time started off with over a week of server problems, and it is backed by billion dollar Blizzard running far more employees than Cryptic has, and Diablo 3 isn't even a MMO. Your expectations are set on an unrealistic level.
  • originalspockoriginalspock Member Posts: 809 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    jelly0 wrote: »
    No, it entitles you to a working door.

    He pays to play and he cant play, whats the confusion ?


    Did you login yesterday?
  • asheistheravenasheistheraven Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    dracounguis wrote: »
    Since you're playing for free and seem to be a nice guy, just don't play for a week or so, so us payers can login.

    Wow sore much?

    I'm a paying customer too. This login issue on the most anticipated expansion for the game is no surprise. So meh, I'll gladly wait as a Paying customer but not stop playing to make you happy.
  • klaazklaaz Member Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    originalspock wrote: »
    Should I need to give you examples of the numerous times mmo's and non-mmo's with high populations have had issues over the years at launch? Cryptic isn't the first, or second or hundredth. Even Diablo 3 highest purchase PC game of all time started off with over a week of server problems, and it is backed by billion dollar Blizzard running far more employees than Cryptic has, and Diablo 3 isn't even a MMO. Your expectations are set on an unrealistic level.


    I'm going to point out the fact that you just counter-acted your own argument. You actually just cemented his point in trying to show him up.
    Nice attempt to salvage your argument though. It failed but nice attempt none the less.
  • originalspockoriginalspock Member Posts: 809 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    klaaz wrote: »
    I'm going to point out the fact that you just counter-acted your own argument. You actually just cemented his point in trying to show him up.
    Nice attempt to salvage your argument though. It failed but nice attempt none the less.

    I'm not seeing anything of substance in this reply, care to clarify?
  • lordvalecortezlordvalecortez Member Posts: 479 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    originalspock wrote: »
    I'm not seeing anything of substance in this reply, care to clarify?

    I believe he is saying you just got owned. By yourself. Awkward. But in a much nicer way.
    Cheers from Antonio Valerio Cortez III, Half-Celestial Archduke of the Free Marches Confederacy.
  • phoeniciusphoenicius Member Posts: 762 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    OP you actually started posting just to defend cryptic... really? like the dude before me said, you got some brown on your nose, might wanna get that checked.
  • adon333adon333 Member Posts: 304
    edited May 2013
    "By the good will of Cryptic"

    http://us.123rf.com/400wm/400/400/yayayoy/yayayoy1107/yayayoy110700027/10089284-laughing-and-pointing-emoticon.jpg
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]


    Yeah, that's right.
  • boydzinjboydzinj Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    In 25 years, I will be 65 and I do not think I will care one way or the other. And I doubt the game will be around. Hopefully, a new age of video games will revolutionize the industry and we look down at these times and remember, "Remember when game companies released to soon and the market was flooded by well meaning but bad launch titles?"

    After someone tells me that, I will get the 21 year old girl a drink and she ask me, "What did you say?" My response would be, "Never mind, keep working.... keep working."
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