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Reputation should be account bound
neurodopamine
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The developers should change the Reputation system to be account bound. This is officially a player submitted request to have the Reputation system redesigned to work on an account based system. Players should be allowed (At the very least) to purchase gear from the reputation store (Bind on Equip, Bound to Account.) The reputation system powers could be another matter. Perhaps Reputation across factions would still remain separate, but grinding out the reputation more than once or twice is absolutely ridiculous.
The reputation grind is probably the worst addition to this game and is an insult to the Star Trek community. If we don't act on this, the game developers will take it as far as they want.
We want content not grinding.
The reputation grind is probably the worst addition to this game and is an insult to the Star Trek community. If we don't act on this, the game developers will take it as far as they want.
We want content not grinding.
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Most of us made these characters before this excessive grind came in and it's pretty unfair for us when we're expected to either delete characters we've put a lot of work into or to grind each character up.
I'd prefer this approach myself. I completely agree though that the reputation system needs to have account level benefits. It's only going to get worse for players every time Cryptic releases an new reputation for players to grind through.
"Sure, this character's fresh out of the tutorial and flying his very first starship - but he's built up this tremendous reputation with the Romulans based on the actions of this other guy he's totally unrelated to!"
Huh?
I agree that it is immersion breaking, but the character does not gain access to the reputstion system until level 50, so a level 1 character would not see it unlocked. The total amount of resources required for more than 2 characters is massive and the grind is insulting to the player base.
A character fresh out of the Academy can get starter packs full of ships, gear, special boffs, etc. Every time I make a new character I'm deciding which of 5 T1 ships I want the character to use, I'm claiming Borg, Photonic, and Android Boffs, I'm opening special shields, weapons, and other gear boxes, I'm pulling ECs out of my Account back, etc. I don't see how having some Rep is any different.
Well, I'm complaining dammit.
Things were going great, STF-wise...then the Season 7 Rep system happened.
They could have left the STF stuff alone, seeing how (supposedly) so many players loathed doing them to get the Borg/KHG/MACO/Omega sets.
But noooooooo...we all get stuck with the Rep system.
So after the shock wore off, months later, I decide to go ahead and tackle the Rep because much like herpes and justin bieber this thing isn't going away.
Then, like being kicked in the groin by the girl you pissed off then challenged to a fight you ultimately lose, I find out that you have to do this same damn thing for ALL the characters I enjoy playing.
So am I doing that?
Hell no.
1-2 max...and it's starting to get real boring real fast.
I think I actually play less, now.
CRYPTIC, MAKE THE REP SYSTEM UNLOCKS ACCOUNT WIDE.
OR BETTER YET GIVE US OUR PRE-SEASON 7 STF SYSTEM BACK.
This mad smiley is for letting this "Rep" insanity continue ---> :mad: <---
RIP KDF and PvP 2014-07-17 Season 9.5 - Death by Dev
^ This guy knows what's up. We the players have to demand a change for this to happen. We should not ignore alt characters because they don't have all of the space buffs from the rep system. Or feel bad for playing them without grinding the rep system.
This character is why I don't play my Romulan any more. Tovan Khev is NOT my BFF! Get him off my bridge!
It shouldn't be account bound per se. Instead, if the main character(Character with the most play time) has a capped reputation system then the other characters of that faction should get a boost.
Not complete unlocks. but say double the Reputation points for each project, they're basically officers working Under your main character (That's how I see it anyway).
Bone1970 don't believe in a no-win senario, Kirk's protege. Fed Tac.
Bone Trader don't belief in a no-win senario, Kirk's protege. Fed Tac.
Bone2 don't believe in a no-win senario, Kirk's protege. KDF Eng.
Warning: Not a native English-speaker, sorry if my English sucks.
Something akin to that would be an acceptable change. What do you think about being able to purchase Rep gear and make it (Bind on Equip and Account Bound) so that I can purchase it on my main and send the gear to my alt. It would not be able to be sold on the exchange or anything, so the work still has to be put in initially.
again...
W o w.
Lets take Omega rep for a moment. You just hit 50. And decided to do an elite space stf. Hey did you know what you just got enough Omega Marks for the first two projects? and if you rinse and repeat an elite space stf a day, you can max out that alts Omega rep in about 35.71428571428571 days. But we can just round it on up to 36. Lets count that, 36 days. Pretty sure in the pre-season 7 some of you ran more than 36 STFs.
Or you can just go with the idea of,
Give it to me with no effort! Because (insert random excuse here). My mommy and daddy give me everything I want, why cant the game?
Oh wait, I do. since season 7 release, i have 9 of my 13 maxed. Started with just 3 toons, each an stf a day. Sometimes I would get all full'a moxy and do 4 or 5 a day. you know. Try and accomplish something in a game.
You should have to do the first rep grind, the system would not make sense without it. Rolling a second, third, fourth (And for many others the number reaches 6+) means that the GRIND has to be done again. This is not entitlement, this is respect. If you don't see the reputation grind as an insult, you are likely either gullible or not looking at the system correctly. There is ZERO skill involved in the reputation grind, it is flat and simply a GRIND. There isn't even a feeling of accomplishment. Log on, input resources, log off, log on, click "collect reward."
Plus not everyone loves to grind the same handful of STFs several times a day for months on end. Some people like to do different things in the game to keep from being bored. So people don't want to raise rabbits or do Rom Patrols day after day, etc.
Cryptic's the one who made their end-game excessively grindy. Where other games are adding new STFs Cryptic just gives you more Rep systems requiring you to do the same basic content over and over.
Say we have to run through the Reputation systems on one character for each faction to get the item and store unlocks. Then we can buy and push the items to our alt characters as we wish only through the Account Bank. You can't use the stuff on any character under Lvl 50 anyways, so players still have to put the work in on each character. And to perform at their absolute best, going through the Reputation again for the passives and T5 powers seems fair. Players can then create new characters, built them up to max, and perform at the level that they are used to, as opposed to feeling hobbled on a partially-equipped alt character while running the same content they'd be running on their main chars anyway and waiting an extra month and a half (on top of the time to develop the alt to Lvl 50) for their Reputation grinds to complete.
I think that some of us who have been in-game for awhile have an expectation that as soon as we've developed our main characters to perform at a maximum level, that a long, tedious grind to get newer characters to the same level is unattractive, so why do it? Giving players the ability to use these lucrative items on alt characters as soon as they reach endgame seems to me like a great way to engage players in the full breadth of the game without bogging them down with a lot of repetitive stuff that they have already done a few too many times.
Grind: A repeating task that a player engages in to advance in the game.
No I do not have to sit there killing boars over and over but it is still a grind. Would you rather I use the term resource and time sink?
Now with the new expansion we get another reputation system... this is getting more and more boring and not fun. Three reputation systems to grind for each character? Sorry, it is not going to happen, i won't do that, no way. I'll quit the game before doing that.
Cryptic, get this: The more characters I have, the more money I will spend on zen, buying toys for all of them. Now, with the reputation as it is... toys for one, maybe two... so no ships, costumes, boffs, keys, or anything from the Z-Store for the rest of characters, nice move!.
And the new expansion... I might create one romulan character... not going to create more, and not going to spend my money on that faction because i only have one character. Same with klingons... I have one char and no intention of creating another one or spend any money on that faction... because of the rep system. I have not played my klingon char almost since the rep system came alive. You could have saved much work on the new expansion... many people won't even give it a chance if this rep system stays at it is... they will quit the game as i probably will.
I'm not even going to comment on epooh tagging. Cryptic, you should be ashamed of what you are doing to Trek... admirals running behind bunnies and making it by far the best way to obtain romulan marks, that's just amazing! Guess what, never done it, never will... new Romulus is not in the star chart for me... keep boring me, i'll keep holding my money in my hands and not buying any zen until i'm bored enough to quit the game.
very much this I all ready got it up to level 3 or 4 and I only every really play one toon now I got to start all over again with that not to say all the EC I put in to it
system Lord Baal is dead
Whats the point of even playing the alt if your not doing something with it? Oh bam, I am level fifty. And look, I have my gear because Uncle Sugar went and did the grind for me. Oh I know, I'll do stf's for kicks with friends. Oh wait, after a few weeks of stomping the Borg to death I am bored. Lets play something else.
PWE or Cryptic, what ever you want to call it would be stupid to dumb the game down any further than it already has been.
I'll tell you the point, trying new ships, careers, builds,... other ways of playing the game.
And after a few weeks as you say it would be nice if some REAL endgame content was introduced, like new STFs, fleet actions... all those things you see that have a queue to play them as a team, for example. Have you heard of the weekly episodes...? It was something everyone looked up to, but the idea "vanished".
New ships, weapons, sets, boffs, fleet advancements,... are not needed if there is no content to use those things. Less lockboxes, sliders to fill with resources, stupid epooh missions,... and more FUN endgame content, please.
Putting the grind back to a reasonable level is the first step to make people create new chars and spend some money in the game... everybody wins, Cryptic and the players. This alone should be a good reason to make reputation account bound.