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devorasxdevorasx Member Posts: 693
edited May 2013 in PvP Gameplay
Soooo, now that we have confirmed stats on ships and consoles, we know we can make a nasty torp T`varo henceforth named (and I thank Virusdancer for this) Torpvaro and Beam Overload Mogais, henceforth named Bogais.

What im wondering about is how vialbe these two ships in particular is going to be in actual pvp. Will people use them as mainstay, maybe use the other romie ships, or will players still be using bug/timeship combos still?

Im checking the waters here among the folks, and im wondering what people are thinking.
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  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    my rom will only be using war birds. if you want a bug, use it on your kdf or fed imo.

    im going to be using all of them, and rotating through fairly often. really looking forward to them
  • naeviusnaevius Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I don't see anything to match a Wells, especially because of the power issue. Does a battle cloak really help a science ship in team PvP?

    If people come up with cute singularity tricks, the TVaros and Mogais might be pretty competitive.
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  • crusty8maccrusty8mac Member Posts: 1,381 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Gonna be all kindsa people doin' all kindsa craaaaazzeeeee things.

    As for Jem bugs, I have one still in a crate. Not bringing it out for my Romulan/Reman toon.
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  • devorasxdevorasx Member Posts: 693
    edited May 2013
    naevius wrote: »
    I don't see anything to match a Wells, especially because of the power issue. Does a battle cloak really help a science ship in team PvP?

    If people come up with cute singularity tricks, the TVaros and Mogais might be pretty competitive.

    Power issues isnt that significant. Were talking ~30 less then fed/klink ships, which isnt that much. And the D`helan can be very potent and can cloak away if focused too much.

    And yes! I bet people will be using lots of nasty singularity combos which will make these ships exciting... but question is: Will they be practical?
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  • shookyangshookyang Member Posts: 1,122
    edited May 2013
    I doubt I'll PvP with my Romulan. Too much resources spent on my fed tac and kdf. Trying to get my fed sci with better gear. I'm also planning on going with an Engineer with a cruiser warbird. For the sake of novelty. I already have a b'rel torp boat...don't need another one.
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    devorasx wrote: »
    And yes! I bet people will be using lots of nasty singularity combos which will make these ships exciting... but question is: Will they be practical?

    It's when you consider the possibilities mixed in with what's out there already...that I think the complaints will come roaring in.

    I uh, decided not to type what I was thinking about some of the possibilities.
  • drkfrontiersdrkfrontiers Member Posts: 2,477 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Yip this time round I am going to fly factional ships.

    I have enough lockbox ships KDF side for when the need arises.

    I am just going to have some fun with these awesome looking ships.
  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    It's when you consider the possibilities mixed in with what's out there already...that I think the complaints will come roaring in.

    I uh, decided not to type what I was thinking about some of the possibilities.

    bogai +singularity overcharge+maron+AtB+2xBO3

    lulz
  • devorasxdevorasx Member Posts: 693
    edited May 2013
    bogai +singularity overcharge+maron+AtB+2xBO3

    lulz

    maron?

    Prey tell me this.
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  • smokeybacon90smokeybacon90 Member Posts: 2,252 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    devorasx wrote: »
    maron?

    Prey tell me this.

    I guess he means Marion Frances Dulmur?
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  • devorasxdevorasx Member Posts: 693
    edited May 2013
    I guess he means Marion Frances Dulmur?

    Which still tells me squat....

    edit: Nvm, found the doff. But i dont find it that siginficant.
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  • marc8219marc8219 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    My BO+HY spike Hohsus build will transfer perfectley to the Mogai and gain 1 more boff ability, can't wait. It has the same amount of tac I use on it, and with the lt Uni as sci you can run a tractor and still have 2 sci heals, and perfect layout. I was already going to do my Hohsus build on it, and now finding out about the consoles is just icing on the cake.

    I can transfer my tac B'rel torp boat build mostly over to the T'varo, it will be fun taking that into FvF since one reason feds avoid Fvk and stay in FvF is to avoid BOP.

    The D'Deridex I also plan on using, probably with an aux2bat build.

    I probably will just use those 3 ships for now, and try others in a month or 2.
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  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    devorasx wrote: »
    Which still tells me squat....

    edit: Nvm, found the doff. But i dont find it that siginficant.

    you can stack BO with its resistance to drain for 8 seconds, when you use DEM. the BOgai has built in energy drain reduction with the 2 consoles, and all tier 5 birds have a singularity power that buffs energy weapons. im not sure if its a passive buff to damage, or more of an ability, but firing that and 2 BO3s in that 8 second window should be lulz.
  • kamipoikamipoi Member Posts: 365 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    i hope that will be a short lived build for you drunk cause it sound absolutely nauseating to me

    all that damage in one decloak buffed boat such a waste of damage to overkill factor 3
  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    kamipoi wrote: »
    i hope that will be a short lived build for you drunk cause it sound absolutely nauseating to me

    all that damage in one decloak buffed boat such a waste of damage to overkill factor 3

    i dont use the marion doff. that goes to far imo
  • devorasxdevorasx Member Posts: 693
    edited May 2013
    you can stack BO with its resistance to drain for 8 seconds, when you use DEM. the BOgai has built in energy drain reduction with the 2 consoles, and all tier 5 birds have a singularity power that buffs energy weapons. im not sure if its a passive buff to damage, or more of an ability, but firing that and 2 BO3s in that 8 second window should be lulz.

    Thought you couldnt use any weapon enhancing boff abilties when that singularity power which powers weapons is on. Or? :confused:
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    devorasx wrote: »
    Thought you couldnt use any weapon enhancing boff abilties when that singularity power which powers weapons is on. Or? :confused:

    The Over blocks out respective weapon abilities until it finishes. There's an issue I'm not they've addressed where if you use a weapon ability first, you can hit the Over...but it doesn't trigger until the other wears off - meaning you could waste the Over.

    Technically though, if you wait...

    BO#1
    BO#2
    BO#3
    Over...
    BO#4

    Would be interesting to test that out...
  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    devorasx wrote: »
    Thought you couldnt use any weapon enhancing boff abilties when that singularity power which powers weapons is on. Or? :confused:

    after they wiped my tier 4 character, i never bothered leveling back to cap to see the tier 5 skill. i just assume it can be used in combination in there some how
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    after they wiped my tier 4 character, i never bothered leveling back to cap to see the tier 5 skill. i just assume it can be used in combination in there some how

    Over locks them out.
  • cha0s1428cha0s1428 Member Posts: 416 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I personally cannot fathom how the Torpvaro won't be the only thing we see after 4 months. And by "see" I of course mean not.

    EBC with a torp console to boot? run all Aux and Engines so the less power means nothing, cloak to your heart's content firing torps like mad.....on a T1 shipyard ship?

    I smell something coming....and it smells like

    Burning Hatred
  • devorasxdevorasx Member Posts: 693
    edited May 2013
    cha0s1428 wrote: »
    I personally cannot fathom how the Torpvaro won't be the only thing we see after 4 months. And by "see" I of course mean not.

    EBC with a torp console to boot? run all Aux and Engines so the less power means nothing, cloak to your heart's content firing torps like mad.....on a T1 shipyard ship?

    I smell something coming....and it smells like

    Burning Hatred

    And a big fat nerf.
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  • naeviusnaevius Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Over locks them out.

    But one of the Singularity cores gives you +20% critical severity when it is active.
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  • naeviusnaevius Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    cha0s1428 wrote: »
    I personally cannot fathom how the Torpvaro won't be the only thing we see after 4 months. And by "see" I of course mean not.

    EBC with a torp console to boot? run all Aux and Engines so the less power means nothing, cloak to your heart's content firing torps like mad.....on a T1 shipyard ship?

    For real fun, add in the Nukara stuff on Tribble. You can fire torps and activate the tachyon chain thing before they hit, which basically takes out a facing. Without de-cloaking, mind you.
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    naevius wrote: »
    But one of the Singularity cores gives you +20% critical severity when it is active.

    We don't know all the different types of Singularity Cores that will be available...are folks going to BC, OOC, and switch them depending on what they're doing? Heh, probably...folks will carry multiple cores just like carrying multiple other stuff too..

    ...wish there was more info on the Singularity Cores.

    Curious if they are going to Rep/Fleet them up too...
  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    We don't know all the different types of Singularity Cores that will be available...are folks going to BC, OOC, and switch them depending on what they're doing? Heh, probably...folks will carry multiple cores just like carrying multiple other stuff too..

    ...wish there was more info on the Singularity Cores.

    Curious if they are going to Rep/Fleet them up too...

    i just hope a nice selection shows up in the fleet store, so i can see whats really available and what all they do. im still clueless about them
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    i just hope a nice selection shows up in the fleet store, so i can see whats really available and what all they do. im still clueless about them

    Outside of the stuff in the Dil Store or the Duel Injection, I haven't seen anybody going oooh, ahhh about any sort of S-Core drop. The very few I've seen are garbage commons or uncommons.
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I've been wondering...thinking, so to speak - about some of the stuff coming with LoR.

    Fleet Ha'feh w/ Reman Tac Captain

    Traits - yeah, not enough caffeine for this part

    Reputation
    New Rom - Precision, Sensor Targeting Assault, Quantum Singularity Manipulation
    Nukara - Enhanced Shield Penetration, Aux Power Config - Offense, Refracting Tetryon Cascade
    Omega - Omega Weapon Training, Superior Shield Repair

    TT1, BO2, APO1, APO3
    TT1, THY2, CRF2

    EPtS1, AtS1
    EPtW1

    TSS1, HE2

    DOFFs - 2x SDO(BFI), 3x DCE(EPtX)

    Deflector - Omega
    Impulse - Omega
    Singularity - something
    Shields - KHG

    Weapons
    Fore - EF Disruptor DBB, 2x EF Disruptor DHC, Bio-Molecular Torp
    Aft - 2x EF Disruptor Turrets, Cutting Beam

    Consoles
    Tac - 4x Induction Coils, Borg
    Eng - Tachyo, Shield Absorptive, Neut
    Sci - 0Point, Leech

    It's not my normal "pretty" colors and TRIBBLE stuff, cause it's a sleepy thought process sort of thing...

    Tet Glider
    Shield Absorptive proc shield drain/shield heal
    EF Disruptors shield damage reduction debuff/hull resistance debuff (disruptor double)
    Enhanced Shield Penetration additional 2.5% bleedthrough from directed energy weapons
    Leech power drain

    I had been dorking around with a mix of Refracting/Piercing Tet over on Tribble, but they "nerfed" the R-Tets. The bounce was just under the damage of the main hit, but it's now just under half the damage of the main hit.

    I didn't want to post this in the other cloak thread where I mentioned some of the Rom console stuff...but that thread and the various threads discussing Rep stuff and how things have changed/are changing - just got me thinking.

    I mean, aside from the shield/hull stuff here - consider the following, eh?

    Sensor Targeting Assault
    KHG Shields
    Crippling Fire Trait (target Acc debuff on Crtis, can 3stack)

    One could say things have been silly...it's kind of getting sad, hrmmm...
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