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scimatar yes or no

silverashes1silverashes1 Member Posts: 192 Arc User
edited May 2013 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
i just heard that the scimatar was going to be a lock box ship? is this true? are we even getting one? has any info been reviled yet?
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  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Haven't heard anything, but it is far more likely that it will be the Romulan version of the Odyssey, Vesta, Andorian ships, and Bortasqu. So 3 different versions with each version having its own console. Lockbox ships are only for ships that should not be available to a faction and the Scimitar is a Romulan/Reman ship that has been around for years. Although, I suspect it will be heavily nerfed compared to the movie version.
  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    silverashes1 wrote: »
    i just heard that the scimatar was going to be a lock box ship? is this true? are we even getting one? has any info been reviled yet?

    It's a rumor. I've heard it's going to be a c-store ship. Possibly even a three pack. It's all speculation right now. The scimitar is likely going to be available, for sure. After the launch, obviously. The rest? It's all just speculation on our part. DStahl will have more to say about it. At some point.
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  • silverashes1silverashes1 Member Posts: 192 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    starkaos wrote: »
    Haven't heard anything, but it is far more likely that it will be the Romulan version of the Odyssey, Vesta, Andorian ships, and Bortasqu. So 3 different versions with each version having its own console. Lockbox ships are only for ships that should not be available to a faction and the Scimitar is a Romulan/Reman ship that has been around for years. Although, I suspect it will be heavily nerfed compared to the movie version.

    this is what i was thinking but i would not put it past them to box it for money
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  • lykumlykum Member Posts: 382
    edited May 2013
    Well scimitar was designed for a specific role, which resulted in the way it looked. with out that thalaron gun the whole design of scimitar is pointless and would look even more pointless turning it into a carrier? maybe keep thalaron weapon give it 1 hangar bay?
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  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    according to picard the scimitar was a predator, it had many disruptor banks and 2 shield generators along with an advanced battle cloak, the whole thing was a giant thalaron weapon with the maneuverability of something a lot smaller considering its sheer size. i dont think you will be seeing the thalaron weapon because any ally of the federation wont be allowed to use it as its illegal, i wonder what cryptic have to say about that and i doubt the klingons want anything to do with such a weapon either as the old fashioned way has a lot more honor.

    it would make a good carrier and the whole thing has 4 disruptor banks only up front and 2 rear turret slots on the back and it will probably be the only carrier to have the battlecloak and the maneuverability is pretty good. probably a tactical inspired carrier layout my guess.
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  • bohiapbohiap Member Posts: 535
    edited May 2013
    mirrorchaos wrote: »
    it would make a good carrier and the whole thing has 4 disruptor banks only up front and 2 rear turret slots on the back and it will probably be the only carrier to have the battlecloak and the maneuverability is pretty good. probably a tactical inspired carrier layout my guess.

    Kinda hopin' you're right. Romulan ships seem to lean towards sci skill and powers. So I'm thinking not thalaron, but a BFG of some sort.
  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I heard it's gonna be purple, and big...the wings are going to be made out of jelly beans, and the weapons it comes with is [Bubblegum {acc}x3] ESD Zone chat never lies. :rolleyes:
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  • lykumlykum Member Posts: 382
    edited May 2013
    Thalaron radiation is already in use in STO, with the vent thalaron radiation option I believe? Besides Donatras ship was equipped With Thalaron weapon at the time it was assimilated by the borg, which was AFTER the Hobus Nova and resulting treaty with the Romulans meaning the Federation don't really mind the thalaron nasties floating everywhere forever.
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  • mimey2mimey2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    lykum wrote: »
    Thalaron radiation is already in use in STO, with the vent thalaron radiation option I believe? Besides Donatras ship was equipped With Thalaron weapon at the time it was assimilated by the borg, which was AFTER the Hobus Nova and resulting treaty with the Romulans meaning the Federation don't really mind the thalaron nasties floating everywhere forever.

    A point to fix: Ships are not letting out Thalaron radiation, they are venting theta radiation.

    And I feel that the Scimitar may end up being either a single C-store ship (which would let the Romulan flagship-class be a three-pack), or a lockbox/lobi ship. The lockbox/lobi ship is because CBS may say that, even if it is a 'faction ship' they would only want a limited amount of these flying around (and yes, limited to Romulan faction toons). Which, and while I generally don't agree like this, would make sense because of the nature of the ship.

    But, only time will tell.
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  • reginamala78reginamala78 Member Posts: 4,593 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Heck make it the vet ship. Instead of the phaser/disruptor lotus, it gets the thalaron pulse replaced with a plasma burst but the same sort of visual. Feds would never allow thalaron weapons anyways, Klingons would probably find indiscriminate planet-killers dishonorable, and it would keep the thing suitably rare. Of course, given how many people WANT it, more money to be made selling it, so logic vs profit.
  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,008 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I think it'll be the default romulan carrier with a pretty standard layout.
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  • saxfiresaxfire Member Posts: 558 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    If they release Scimitar, it will certainly have 4 or even maybe 5 engineering console slots, it's NOT gonna be science based, it either has commander eng or tac stations and possiply either just one ensign or liutenant sci boff station, kinda like jemmy chippies, if something, it's gonna be like dkora in boff setup, or JH dreadnaughty, with turn rate of 4-7, 5 weapons in front, and 2-3 turrets in back. with enormous hull amount and decent 1.0 shield mod.
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  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,891 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I would much rather have the Scimitar have one or two hanger and be independent from the Romulan Oddy/Bort if and or when we get it.

    Considering the Scimitar is one big weapon I don't know if it would have room to deploy a frigate like the Bort and Oddy do.

    Honestly before the LoR beta came out I figured the Ha'apax would be the Romulan Bort/Oddy since it had that frigate on its underbelly.
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  • smokeybacon90smokeybacon90 Member Posts: 2,252 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Sound like a load of rubbish to me. Don't listen to ESD.
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  • szimszim Member Posts: 2,503 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    silverashes1 wrote: »
    i just heard that the scimatar was going to be a lock box ship? is this true? are we even getting one? has any info been reviled yet?

    Highly unlikely. Why would they restrict Romulan ships to Romulan characters and then make a Romulan lockbox ship available for everyone?

    My guess is that the Scimitar will be a three-ship bundle available on z-store for Romulan characters a few weeks after launch of LoR.
  • romeowhiskey4romeowhiskey4 Member Posts: 266 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Even if it has the thalaron weapon the CD would render it useless anyway...and it wouldn;t be of the Vortex power/damage... Probably knock off a ship power for 5 seconds and reduce crew with some hull damage... Also the charge time to fire would leave it pretty vulnerable. More for PVE than PVP in any respect.

    And also there is the fleet scimitar reinforcement so it's BOUND to be available at some point...

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  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    romeowhiskey4 wrote: »
    Even if it has the thalaron weapon the CD would render it useless anyway...and it wouldn;t be of the Vortex power/damage... Probably knock off a ship power for 5 seconds and reduce crew with some hull damage... Also the charge time to fire would leave it pretty vulnerable. More for PVE than PVP in any respect.

    And also there is the fleet scimitar reinforcement so it's BOUND to be available at some point...

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    The Typhoon and Jupiter class and has been around since launch and yet these ships never made it to the playable draw, i wouldnt be surprised if the scimitar remains out of reach as well. like a sort of heavy flagship that was not designed for gameplay.
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  • lykumlykum Member Posts: 382
    edited May 2013
    Could actually fit it in if a cap were introduced at only 1 Scimitar per PvE and PvP map. I mean it's not like the thalaron blast is hard to escape from, plus their own weapon puts them a hold on them. However it could win the entire game in Pvp (lol) would actually be worth looking into from my perspective.
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  • romeowhiskey4romeowhiskey4 Member Posts: 266 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    mirrorchaos wrote: »
    The Typhoon and Jupiter class and has been around since launch and yet these ships never made it to the playable draw, i wouldnt be surprised if the scimitar remains out of reach as well. like a sort of heavy flagship that was not designed for gameplay.

    As they say 'Good point, well presented!' But did the Jupiter and Typhoon bring it;s own uproar? If people couldn;t have their Scimitar fix would there be a revolution? Riots on ESD!!! Pillaging on DS9!!
  • z3ndor99z3ndor99 Member Posts: 1,391 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Hey guys priority one pod cast 125 supplemental capt geko states; c-store, possible 3 variants ( most likely ), will be released but not at launch with LOR, the romulan faction has to be profitable to cryptic first before any stuff will be made for them. Hope this helps ;D
  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    will need some proof to back up that claim.
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  • crappyturbocrappyturbo Member Posts: 201 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I like the look of the Scimitar but I personally do not want it to come with the Thaleron weapon that should remain on npc ships only. Maneuverability wise it will probably be as manerverable as the Galaxy:rolleyes:
  • drkfrontiersdrkfrontiers Member Posts: 2,477 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I will be seriously miffed in the Scimitar appears as a cross-faction lockbox ship. It belongs to the Romulan faction, who are already pressed for ships at Tier 5.
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  • kirahitomikirahitomi Member Posts: 144 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Scimitar is a yes, its already been stated by Devs in numerous podcasts, it won't be at launch and it won't be a lock box ship as they won't reveal ships that are coming as lock boxes which has also been stated numerous times by Devs. Wells class was flat out denied as coming to STO by Devs until it showed up in the temporal lock box and since they already stated that Scimitar is a yes, it'll probably be a C-store ship.
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  • theodrimtheodrim Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    silverashes1 wrote: »
    ...has any info been reviled yet?

    Other than the fact there's no way on Earth a Scimitar-class is going to have a turn rate over 5, considering the TRIBBLE turn rate of the yet smaller and more agile D'Deridex and Ha'apax?

    And the fact its specialty console is probably going to be a thalaron weapon that'll likely have a 45-degree firing arc and short range, meaning "good luck aiming it"?
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  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    theodrim wrote: »
    Other than the fact there's no way on Earth a Scimitar-class is going to have a turn rate over 5, considering the TRIBBLE turn rate of the yet smaller and more agile D'Deridex and Ha'apax?

    And the fact its specialty console is probably going to be a thalaron weapon that'll likely have a 45-degree firing arc and short range, meaning "good luck aiming it"?

    While both of those are definitely educated guesses and things I would say are probable, they're still technically guesses. Nothing official's been released yet.
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  • silverashes1silverashes1 Member Posts: 192 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    i know that it would be way op if it was like in the movie but that ship is ripe for romulan flagship material
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  • wildweasalwildweasal Member Posts: 1,053 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    silverashes1 wrote: »
    i know that it would be way op if it was like in the movie but that ship is ripe for romulan flagship material

    I don tknwo how I feel about a reman ship being the "romulan" flagship
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