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Starfish1 Klingon Ship Chart

starfish1701starfish1701 Member Posts: 782 Arc User
edited December 2014 in Ten Forward
[POST UPDATED]

Klingon Ship Chart v3.11 (12/09/2014)
http://starfish1.co.uk/chart2.jpg

See dated thread post for details

If you notice anything missing or wrong please let me know, so I can correct it. Thanks in advance for your help in ironing out the creases. It's your feedback that makes these charts usable.

STO Tutorial - Using Ship Charts [5 min YouTube video]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhoz4uaFZyE

Link to the Federation chart thread
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?p=6643831#post6643831

Link to the Romulan chart thread
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=687491

Hope some of this material is helpful. :)
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  • idronaidrona Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I don't know much about Klingon ships, but the chart look great. :)

    Also the tutorial video is real nice, good job.
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  • robdmcrobdmc Member Posts: 1,619 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Nice work.
  • starfish1701starfish1701 Member Posts: 782 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    idrona wrote: »
    I don't know much about Klingon ships, but the chart look great. :)

    Also the tutorial video is real nice, good job.

    Thanks for that. I enjoyed working with all that orange, it made a nice change from the wall to wall blue of the Fed chart.
    robdmc wrote: »
    Nice work.

    Thanks. :)

    Hope it's of use, and even more so when I expand it out to include more ships.
  • armedbushidoarmedbushido Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Again awesome work and I hope you continue on...

    /salute
  • toivatoiva Member Posts: 3,276 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Yay, great you started working on KDF ships as well. They overall look nicer. :P

    The color actually quite fits with the new UI KDF colors.

    Nicely done.
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    Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider.
    Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.

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  • starfish1701starfish1701 Member Posts: 782 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    armedbushido wrote: »
    Again awesome work and I hope you continue on...

    /salute

    Thanks for that.

    And yes, I am continuing with it. Version 2.0 will have the VA and RA equivalents. I have only paused because I am making a new colour scheme for the cross faction ships and I am having trouble making icons that I am happy with, so the next version will be a week or so yet. And I am making a new scheme for the cross faction ships so they can be copied across into the Romulan chart that I expect to have out around the 20th, ready for the official launch of the Romulans.

    toiva wrote: »
    Yay, great you started working on KDF ships as well. They overall look nicer. :P

    The color actually quite fits with the new UI KDF colors.

    Nicely done.

    The colour scheme match was intentional, and the Romulan one will be even more so, as it integrates the cool blues as well as the greens.

    I have to say that I am more happy with the Klingon one than the Federation one, and it was a nice change to work on an orange palette instead of all that acres of blue.

    Thanks for the comments.
  • johngazmanjohngazman Member Posts: 2,826 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Very nice. Just a shame it highlights just how many ships the KDF fleets don't get - no Phalanx and Draguas Retro/Fleet Retro, no Ki'Tang Retro/Fleet Retro (and hence no Ch'Tang at T5 :( )

    But nonetheless, impressive work :D
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  • starfish1701starfish1701 Member Posts: 782 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    johngazman wrote: »
    Very nice. Just a shame it highlights just how many ships the KDF fleets don't get - no Phalanx and Draguas Retro/Fleet Retro, no Ki'Tang Retro/Fleet Retro (and hence no Ch'Tang at T5 :( )

    But nonetheless, impressive work :D

    Thanks for that. :)

    Yes, I take your point. As I am currently expanding the chart into the next two ranks down, it has really struck me (as a player who rarely plays Klingon) just how few ships there are available to the KDF. There are some excellent ship models, but there really need to be T5 versions of many of them. Having started this chart on the back of updating and expanding the Fed one I can really see the difference, and I think it will be highlighted further as I release subsequent versions of this chart. :o
  • lordhavelocklordhavelock Member Posts: 2,248 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Beautiful.

    Simply, beautiful.

    I look forward to the expanded KDF chart. :)

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  • toivatoiva Member Posts: 3,276 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    starfish1701 wrote: »
    Thanks for that. :)

    Yes, I take your point. As I am currently expanding the chart into the next two ranks down, it has really struck me (as a player who rarely plays Klingon) just how few ships there are available to the KDF. There are some excellent ship models, but there really need to be T5 versions of many of them. Having started this chart on the back of updating and expanding the Fed one I can really see the difference, and I think it will be highlighted further as I release subsequent versions of this chart. :o

    Well, wait to see the Romulan one. It's just 5 ships times 4 versions of each one there. :P

    Unless you somehow want to add the lower Tier "Allied" ships on the chart as well. Then it might grow a bit.
    TOIVA, Toi Vaxx, Toia Vix, Toveg, T'vritha, To Vrax: Bring in the Allegiance class.
    Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider.
    Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.

    Don't make ARC mandatory! Keep it optional only!
  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Looks awesome, Starfish.
    I'm having wallet size copies printed as we speak.
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  • starfish1701starfish1701 Member Posts: 782 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    bitemepwe wrote: »
    Looks awesome, Starfish.
    I'm having wallet size copies printed as we speak.

    Wallet sized copies? Meaning you are printing the individual frames and cutting them out?

    Sounds like a good idea! :D
  • starfish1701starfish1701 Member Posts: 782 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Chart updated to version 2.0 (8.5 MB)
    starfish1.co.uk/chart2.jpg

    Addition of Lieutenant General ships
    Addition of Brigadier and Major General ships
    Addition of Cross Faction ships
    New neutral scheme and backdrops for all Cross Faction frames
    Correction to Fleet Bortas turn rate

    As usual, if you notice anything amis, please let me know so I can correct it.

    I expect this chart to need to be updated after the 21st, so it's up to you if you want to upload it now, or wait for the 2.1 update sometime after Legacy of Romulus goes live (and it's confirmed for sure what changes will be made to the KDF ship tiers).

    Many thanks,
    Starfish1
  • g0vawkg0vawk Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Brilliant work on these charts, I appreciate the detail you put into them and look forward to the Romulan ship version :)
    I did notice an error in KDF chart V2.0, the Varanus Fleet Support comes with Repair Platform console and not a Manheim Device console.
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  • starfish1701starfish1701 Member Posts: 782 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    g0vawk wrote: »
    Brilliant work on these charts, I appreciate the detail you put into them and look forward to the Romulan ship version :)
    I did notice an error in KDF chart V2.0, the Varanus Fleet Support comes with Repair Platform console and not a Manheim Device console.

    AGH! How embarrassing. Right picture, wrong text. :o

    Updated to 2.1 with a correction to the Varanus console with thanks to g0vawk.
    starfish1.co.uk/chart2.jpg
  • vkfphoenixlordvkfphoenixlord Member Posts: 1,991 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Thanks. I have been looking for an updated version of the ship charts. Can you point me in the direction of the Fed side chart?
  • starfish1701starfish1701 Member Posts: 782 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    vkfphoenixlord wrote: »
    Thanks. I have been looking for an updated version of the ship charts. Can you point me in the direction of the Fed side chart?

    You're welcome. :)

    Fed chart link is under my sig, or you can find it in Ten Forward.
  • ooiueooiue Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    starfish1701 wrote: »
    You're welcome. :)

    Fed chart link is under my sig, or you can find it in Ten Forward.

    Can I suggest using this image for the background of the Mirror KDF ships :)

    It is the Klingon-Cardassian Alliance after all :)
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  • starfish1701starfish1701 Member Posts: 782 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    ooiue wrote: »
    Can I suggest using this image for the background of the Mirror KDF ships :)

    It is the Klingon-Cardassian Alliance after all :)

    Thanks for the suggestion Ooiue. :)

    I did consider using that logo initially, but I can't remember why I didn't go with it. It's a pretty cool design, and would probably look better, I have to agree.
  • g0vawkg0vawk Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Just a heads up, the B'rel Retrofit costs 2,000 Zen and not 2,500 as shown in V2.1

    (Your charts are very helpful in planning ship builds for potential new ship acquisitions :D)
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  • toivatoiva Member Posts: 3,276 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Just a minor nitpick: The Kamarag retrofit (as well as any other Kamarag) has 10.5 turn rate, not just 10 as Vor'chas do.
    TOIVA, Toi Vaxx, Toia Vix, Toveg, T'vritha, To Vrax: Bring in the Allegiance class.
    Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider.
    Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.

    Don't make ARC mandatory! Keep it optional only!
  • starfish1701starfish1701 Member Posts: 782 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    g0vawk wrote: »
    Just a heads up, the B'rel Retrofit costs 2,000 Zen and not 2,500 as shown in V2.1

    (Your charts are very helpful in planning ship builds for potential new ship acquisitions :D)

    Fantastic. Thanks for that. I will get it corrected in the next version.

    I'm also pleased that the charts are helpful. It's the reason I make them.
    toiva wrote: »
    Just a minor nitpick: The Kamarag retrofit (as well as any other Kamarag) has 10.5 turn rate, not just 10 as Vor'chas do.

    Agh. I was hoping no one would notice that. :o

    The arrow is too small to accommodate 10.5 but it's fine for a number like 5.5 (which is on a few of the Romulan ships I'm doing at the moment). Now it's been noticed I guess I am going to have to make a bigger arrow for some of the slides :cool:

    Thanks.
  • korfi2go#5083 korfi2go
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    edited May 2013
    Nice Work as always. :D

    But there is one thing:
    The Bortas is missing.
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    edited May 2013
    murphysgesetz wrote: »
    Nice Work as always. :D

    But there is one thing:
    The Bortas is missing.

    Oh well, there it is. I just looked in the wrong place. my bad.:rolleyes:
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  • armedbushidoarmedbushido Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I still would love to get a "sticky" for these charts. Maybe merge all charts into one thread that way they do not need to sticky three (betting on you getting the Romulian one up).

    Keep up the awesome work!

    /salute
  • starfish1701starfish1701 Member Posts: 782 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    armedbushido wrote: »
    I still would love to get a "sticky" for these charts. Maybe merge all charts into one thread that way they do not need to sticky three (betting on you getting the Romulian one up).

    Keep up the awesome work!

    /salute

    I intend to do just that once the Romulan chart is out (eta Monday) and I go back to amend and finish the Klingon chart.

    I remember seeing something about a new Forum design, so I might wait to see what would be the most appropriate category and link all three in the one place.

    I think it has been useful to keep them separate until now (and the Romulan one will be too) so all the suggested corrections are together in one place, but once they are all done and apparently correct, I will go ahead and create a new thread for them all in the once place. :)
    murphysgesetz wrote: »
    Oh well, there it is. I just looked in the wrong place. my bad.:rolleyes:

    LOL. No worries. :D

    Glad you find the charts useful.
  • toivatoiva Member Posts: 3,276 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    starfish1701 wrote: »
    Agh. I was hoping no one would notice that. :o

    The arrow is too small to accommodate 10.5 but it's fine for a number like 5.5 (which is on a few of the Romulan ships I'm doing at the moment). Now it's been noticed I guess I am going to have to make a bigger arrow for some of the slides :cool:

    Thanks.

    Sorry about that. It's the only ship with a 3 digit turn rate. They just had to slot it between the Vor'cha and K't'inga.
    TOIVA, Toi Vaxx, Toia Vix, Toveg, T'vritha, To Vrax: Bring in the Allegiance class.
    Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider.
    Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.

    Don't make ARC mandatory! Keep it optional only!
  • starfish1701starfish1701 Member Posts: 782 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    toiva wrote: »
    Sorry about that. It's the only ship with a 3 digit turn rate. They just had to slot it between the Vor'cha and K't'inga.

    No worries. ;)

    It really didn't sit right with me that I knew I was rounding off the number to fit it in. I've added it to my list, so it will get changed in the next update to the chart, which will probably be towards the end of next week.
  • johngazmanjohngazman Member Posts: 2,826 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Ooh, don't know if anyone's mentioned this yet - No Mirror Qin Raptor?
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  • starfish1701starfish1701 Member Posts: 782 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    johngazman wrote: »
    Ooh, don't know if anyone's mentioned this yet - No Mirror Qin Raptor?

    No they hadn't. I only thought there were 2 mirror ships, but you are quite right, I have missed one out.

    Added to the list for the next update.

    Thanks :D
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