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captainobvious09captainobvious09 Member Posts: 182 Arc User
edited April 2013 in Federation Discussion
In just about every Fed side Carrier/Vesta thread, its Elite Scorpions...

What do you do before you get Tier 5 faction with Romulus?

I still have a long way to go. :(
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  • reginamala78reginamala78 Member Posts: 4,593 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Storebought Peregrines? Maybe Danubes or Deltas for specific purposes? Its not like there's a lot of pet options Fed-side. But no sense dropping 30 or 60k dil on Advanced pets when you intend to replace ASAP.
  • crusty8maccrusty8mac Member Posts: 1,381 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    nvm..........................
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  • marc8219marc8219 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I'm too lazy to ever bother getting T5 Romulan on any of my characters, I don't have problems in my Vesta or Armitage without them. I normally just use Advanced Danubes or Advanced peregrines. I don't have problems soloing cubes or guarding 4 probes at once on elite with these with my sci captain in a vesta so they do the job. I will just replace these with Elite danubes and Elite peregrines soon from my starbase rather then bothering with scorpions, they just don't look right being laucnhed from Fed ships and I don't need them.
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  • captainobvious09captainobvious09 Member Posts: 182 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I am getting a bit sick of the vesta, even with 125 aux, the damage is low, and I get anihilated by anything I hit in Elites. If there is no escort on something, if I touch it, it destroys me, sometimes I can be at full health and full shields and nothing hits me and I just explode.
  • thepantspartythepantsparty Member Posts: 431 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    In just about every Fed side Carrier/Vesta thread, its Elite Scorpions...

    What do you do before you get Tier 5 faction with Romulus?

    I still have a long way to go. :(

    Advanced Peregrines are your damage option until then, or just use the normal blue ones if you want to save your dilithium.
  • momawmomaw Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    On a good day, advanced peregrines can cause nearly as much damage as regular peregrines... For a cost of 30K dil per hangar. Stick with your regular peregrines until you can get elite scorpions.
  • voxinvictusvoxinvictus Member Posts: 261
    edited April 2013
    In just about every Fed side Carrier/Vesta thread, its Elite Scorpions...

    What do you do before you get Tier 5 faction with Romulus?

    I still have a long way to go. :(

    Very Rare Danubes are quite good.
  • captainretsetcaptainretset Member Posts: 92 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I have Elite Scorps and Advanced Danubes for my Armitage. I like the Scorps in things like ISE where I just chuck them out as fast as possible and they do decent damage - about 10-12% of my output according to ACT.

    For PVP (which I do rarely and badly) or CSE/KSE I prefer the Danubes as they hold targets still and so lower their defences. I haven't parsed them but I imagine their DPS is less but their contribution is well worthwhile and, in effect, make my guns better.
  • polie05polie05 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    only spammy noobs use adv danoob runabouts in pvp. Use them and you will be poped every time I see you come back in.
  • ferdzso0ferdzso0 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I am getting a bit sick of the vesta, even with 125 aux, the damage is low, and I get anihilated by anything I hit in Elites. If there is no escort on something, if I touch it, it destroys me, sometimes I can be at full health and full shields and nothing hits me and I just explode.

    have you ever thought that maybe you should not use full aux, and change the aux weapons? compared to a regular escort you lose a dhc for a hangar bay (which is not much of a trade off). and if you know how to shield tank, then you should have no problem tanking in the vesta (especially with a sci)


    also, elite scorpions are the best DPS at the moment. your other option is the advanced peregrines, they are good for dps too. or maybe there will be some elite goodies with starbases. I suspect peregrines will get a torpedo ability, either high yield or spread, we shall see

    10k DPS Vesta threads: 1; 2
  • sudoku7sudoku7 Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    ferdzso0 wrote: »
    have you ever thought that maybe you should not use full aux, and change the aux weapons? compared to a regular escort you lose a dhc for a hangar bay (which is not much of a trade off). and if you know how to shield tank, then you should have no problem tanking in the vesta (especially with a sci)


    also, elite scorpions are the best DPS at the moment. your other option is the advanced peregrines, they are good for dps too. or maybe there will be some elite goodies with starbases. I suspect peregrines will get a torpedo ability, either high yield or spread, we shall see

    Have folks been able to test against Fleet Peregrine yet? I know few fleets have them unlocked yet, but still.

    [ edit ]
    Derp. nope not unlocked yet, Spectre is about to unlock it, so we still don't know. And even then, it may be realistically out of grasp to be considered anyway.
  • telbasta7386telbasta7386 Member Posts: 761 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Can someone explain these elite scorpions to me? I havent played STO in about 6 months so I'm a little behind on all the new faction stuff.

    I have the scorpions from the old reman missions, but it's a device, not a hangar craft, and has limited charges.
  • sudoku7sudoku7 Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Can someone explain these elite scorpions to me? I havent played STO in about 6 months so I'm a little behind on all the new faction stuff.

    I have the scorpions from the old reman missions, but it's a device, not a hangar craft, and has limited charges.

    They're an ultra-rare hangar pet you can get from Tier 5 Romulan reputation. They rain plasma death on their targets.
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  • momawmomaw Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I have Elite Scorps and Advanced Danubes for my Armitage. I like the Scorps in things like ISE where I just chuck them out as fast as possible and they do decent damage - about 10-12% of my output according to ACT.

    You're doing something wrong. This is what elite scorpions should look like:

    DPS from player weapons:
    Disruptor array 555
    Cutting beam 567
    Disruptor turrets 628
    Disruptor dual beam 653
    Photon torpedo HY2 949
    Photon torpedo 1865
    Total: 5217

    DPS from Pet weapons:
    Dual plasma cannons 406
    Plasma turret 646
    Plasma torpedo 1066
    Plasma torpedo HY1 1767 (+462 burn)
    Total: 4347
  • ferdzso0ferdzso0 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    momaw wrote: »
    You're doing something wrong. This is what elite scorpions should look like:

    DPS from player weapons:
    Disruptor array 555
    Cutting beam 567
    Disruptor turrets 628
    Disruptor dual beam 653
    Photon torpedo HY2 949
    Photon torpedo 1865
    Total: 5217

    DPS from Pet weapons:
    Dual plasma cannons 406
    Plasma turret 646
    Plasma torpedo 1066
    Plasma torpedo HY1 1767 (+462 burn)
    Total: 4347

    you are doing something right rather. the best I got from them was 3k DPS.

    unless you are using a carrier, which means that you have 4 wings of scorpions out there
    Can someone explain these elite scorpions to me? I havent played STO in about 6 months so I'm a little behind on all the new faction stuff.

    I have the scorpions from the old reman missions, but it's a device, not a hangar craft, and has limited charges.

    compared to advanced peregrines they have higher level boff skills, also they have one more boff skill (high yield plasma torp, and it makes a great difference), and they use plasma

    10k DPS Vesta threads: 1; 2
  • momawmomaw Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    ferdzso0 wrote: »
    you are doing something right rather. the best I got from them was 3k DPS.

    unless you are using a carrier, which means that you have 4 wings of scorpions out there


    Aaaaah, I missed the "Armitage" part of that post.

    I was using a Jem Dreadnaught. Two hangars worth of fighters is more than twice as good as one thanks to cooldown from FDO's. I don't really have a good baseline for what kind of damage to expect from a half-carrier worth of superscorps.
  • telbasta7386telbasta7386 Member Posts: 761 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Ok, I just started working on romulan rep tonight. I see that at 5000 rep (tier 1), you can unlock blue-quality scorpion fighters... would I be better off using those over my current blue-quality stalker fighters?
  • khayuungkhayuung Member Posts: 1,877 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Sadly, the only USEFUL Fed pets are Elite Scorpions, Stalkers, Attack Ships and Yellowstones. Which DPS wise scorpions win, and utility wise Yellowstones win.

    The shuttles should have gotten self-replicating photon mines, as fitting with the Chaffee theme, but no, they got torpedoes. So, ho-hum, useless.

    Since most Feddies want flavor, that leaves 1 thing: THERE WILL BE YELLOWSTONES, EVERYWHERE.


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  • captainoblivouscaptainoblivous Member Posts: 2,284 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    khayuung wrote: »
    Sadly, the only USEFUL Fed pets are Elite Scorpions, Stalkers, Attack Ships and Yellowstones. Which DPS wise scorpions win, and utility wise Yellowstones win.

    The shuttles should have gotten self-replicating photon mines, as fitting with the Chaffee theme, but no, they got torpedoes. So, ho-hum, useless.

    Since most Feddies want flavor, that leaves 1 thing: THERE WILL BE YELLOWSTONES, EVERYWHERE.

    Yellowstones? You mean the danubes right? :/

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  • neos472neos472 Member Posts: 580 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    the yellowstone class runabout is the fleet grade runabout hanger pet and on top of getting a max level tractor beam it gets eject tetryon warp plasma the console the C store one has so ya not much will be moving fast with these around =)
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  • ferdzso0ferdzso0 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    it seems me was wrong, and peregrines are getting rapid fire ability. well that wont change the elite scorpions position as best dps pets it seems...

    10k DPS Vesta threads: 1; 2
  • futurepastnowfuturepastnow Member Posts: 3,660 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I would not be surprised if Romulan characters can buy blue Scorpions for EC from a shipyard vendor and Advanced Scorpions in the dil store, though I expect they'll have to level the rep system for Elites like everyone else.
  • satanailofhwbgsatanailofhwbg Member Posts: 158 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I'm amazed that there are Elite JHAS pets, like the regular ones aren't overpowered....
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