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oldkhemaraaoldkhemaraa Member Posts: 1,039 Arc User
edited April 2013 in Klingon Discussion
SO listening to the Priority one pod cast and had one of those "Ah HA!" moments. Lot of info for we KDF..

WE are getting a bunch of missions that are going to be telling the story of the hobus explosion, the devestation of the Romulan Star Empire, and basicly set up for the Reman FE, And what the Chancellor thoughts on his intent that has been running through his alleged brain.

I personally think J'mpoc is a blithering idiot... ie: a politician. The bulk of the population doesn't want to work especialy hard at thinking how an where for, so he feeds them a story to keep them out of the KDF's dreadlocks.


SO here is my "Best Guess"
Tutorial (new!) Backstory on the Hobus detonation, J'mpok, and Undine infiltration, and Gorn annexation, and the current state of not so much war and non-peace between the Klingon Empire, and the U.F.P..

New missions that build the story up to the Reman FE. Also FE's coming off the "Featured Mission"list of KDF mission progression was noted. So progression through the lower levels will be with new re-presented missions (basicly those "re-written" fed missions we've been hearing about.) giving the Klingon take on the news.

I am wondering if we're going to get a KDF version of the swords series? Always thought that it was a excellent series, that should have had a KDF analog. Not the same mission from a KDF POV but a KDF mission series that covers another aspect of same stroy during KDF operations against the RSE remenants and general land snatching under J'mpoc. There are some hints on the tribble server on this. But its not entirely obvious.

So we are getting some definate new mission content for KDF PvE levelling and progression. Apparently from tribble we have access to a number of what were previously considered fed arc missions. They are a WIP.

Be interesting if the fed arc involving B'vat become the post tutorial mission arc. That entire series has always begged for a Klingon version where it would be a point of honor to prevent the creation of auguments, and stopping B'vat. A Klingon who has apparently gone insane. The Klingon Empire is well aware of the dangers of auguments. But, as Worf said, "We don't talk about it" *pregnant glowering silence*

Oh, and just to be fair, we should get some nice anti undine missions deep in Federation space. After all if the feds get to involve themselves with internal matters of the Empire the Empire should be able to return the favor.. maybe by removing Undine infiltrators in specific rather embarasssingly sensitive positions with in both Starfleet and the United Federation of Planets government. This is just speculation how ever...

....I repeat just speculation.. and just the last two paragraphs....


Now to listen to the rest of this..

Buncha instanced missions on Nimbus-III (ye failed "Planet of Galactic peace" see ST-V)
this will be sub level 30 content. Nimbus-III has turned into a den of infamy and villiny apparently to put Mos Isley to shame. Should be some fun.

The more I hear about Romulan Warbirds the more I hear a voice say "Need a really big gun?". The ships can be dialed to the player character through. Ah well, a "tuner" star ship. Who'd of thought? *grin!*

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  • captainrevo1captainrevo1 Member Posts: 3,948 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    The new journal is on tribble, although you cant play them yet.

    there are quite a few new mission and some converted (about 7 cardassian ones and 3 borg).

    the new ones make up the tutorial, the stuff on nimbus and some others. obviously we cant tell how long they are so they could range from 45 minute episodes to the smaller 15 min eps that unlock on new romulus.

    empire/tutorial
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    Vigilance (what ever that means)
    http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx26/revo_2010/1-4_zps42a73188.jpg

    Wasteland (i think the nimbus stuff, so might be shorter ones)
    http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx26/revo_2010/2-2_zpsf54b3e6e.jpg
    http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx26/revo_2010/3-1_zpsef730dfd.jpg

    Not forgetting the Nimbus adventure zone itself, which should have dailys and other open world events, a new FE series after Legacy of Romulus and possibly the ability to team with a Romulan to play their missions if I have read that correctly.
  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Im very excited!
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  • redshirtthefirstredshirtthefirst Member Posts: 415 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Sounds like a nice and full journal of missions to do for a new KDF player :D

    This has been THREE YEARS I have been waiting for this and may actually rolland lvl a KDF....
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  • psycoticvulcanpsycoticvulcan Member Posts: 4,160 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    This looks amazing. I can't wait for LoR! :D
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  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    The new journal is on tribble, although you cant play them yet.

    there are quite a few new mission and some converted (about 7 cardassian ones and 3 borg).

    the new ones make up the tutorial, the stuff on nimbus and some others. obviously we cant tell how long they are so they could range from 45 minute episodes to the smaller 15 min eps that unlock on new romulus.

    empire/tutorial
    http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx26/revo_2010/Untitled-1-9_zpsf262d60f.jpg

    Vigilance (what ever that means)
    http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx26/revo_2010/1-4_zps42a73188.jpg

    Wasteland (i think the nimbus stuff, so might be shorter ones)
    http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx26/revo_2010/2-2_zpsf54b3e6e.jpg
    http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx26/revo_2010/3-1_zpsef730dfd.jpg

    Not forgetting the Nimbus adventure zone itself, which should have dailys and other open world events, a new FE series after Legacy of Romulus and possibly the ability to team with a Romulan to play their missions if I have read that correctly.
    Thanks for posting that Cap'n! I haven't been on Tribble so I haven't had much of a chance to see what's coming. Looks good!
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  • lordmalak1lordmalak1 Member Posts: 4,681 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    So how many are gonna re-roll a KDF toon to play those rewashed fed missions ?
    ...and the handful of new ones that legitimize the future neglect the KDF will suffer for the the Romulan content development ?
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  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    lordmalak1 wrote: »
    So how many are gonna re-roll a KDF toon to play those rewashed fed missions ?
    ...and the handful of new ones that legitimize the future neglect the KDF will suffer for the the Romulan content development ?

    <Ignores sarcastic jab>

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  • psycoticvulcanpsycoticvulcan Member Posts: 4,160 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    lordmalak1 wrote: »
    So how many are gonna re-roll a KDF toon to play those rewashed fed missions ?
    ...and the handful of new ones that legitimize the future neglect the KDF will suffer for the the Romulan content development ?

    Pessimism will get you nowhere. At least wait to see what it is before you condemn it.

    And since you asked, I intend to reboot Captain K'mek and the I.K.S. Qam-Chee the moment LoR goes online. :cool:
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  • jnohdjnohd Member Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Considering we're supposed to be at war with the Federation, we sure do spend a lot of time dealing with Romulan issues...

    I fear the one thing we specified when asking for content has been overlooked - clarity on the War with the Federation in-game (rather than on the now missing Path to 2409 text found on websites).

    Not complaining, per se - I am *very* happy to see there is finally content, just confused and a little disappointed it isn't focused on the war more - the Undine and the Federation.
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  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    lordmalak1 wrote: »
    So how many are gonna re-roll a KDF toon to play those rewashed fed missions ?
    ...and the handful of new ones that legitimize the future neglect the KDF will suffer for the the Romulan content development ?
    *Raises hand* I already have a new Gorn idea picked out, just waiting to be used. My son loves Klingons and we're going to do the entire updated KDF series together. :)
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    jnohd wrote: »
    Considering we're supposed to be at war with the Federation, we sure do spend a lot of time dealing with Romulan issues...
    Klingons are always at war with everyone, including each other. :)

    By end-game the Fed/KDF war is essentially in cease-fire. The two groups are working together against the bigger threat the Borg impose.

    So what you really have is a war in the first 15-20 levels, then you start to realize there's bigger problems in the galaxy then just Feds and KDF angry at each other.
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • jnohdjnohd Member Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    thecosmic1 wrote: »
    So what you really have is a war in the first 15-20 levels, then you start to realize there's bigger problems in the galaxy then just Feds and KDF angry at each other.

    This will be nice, and is exactly what we've been hoping for. I guess I'm still just concerned it won't be clarified in game with both mission text and actions.
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  • malkarrismalkarris Member Posts: 797 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Interesting on those screen shots. The Hassan the Undying guy is from the 2409 storyline as the one who killed the last leader of the Orions so that the current one could take over and ultimately ally with the KDF. Nice see more of the 2409 timeline stuff make it into the game.
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  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    thecosmic1 wrote: »
    Klingons are always at war with everyone, including each other. :)

    By end-game the Fed/KDF war is essentially in cease-fire. The two groups are working together against the bigger threat the Borg impose.

    So what you really have is a war in the first 15-20 levels, then you start to realize there's bigger problems in the galaxy then just Feds and KDF angry at each other.

    Exactly. The low level content is not really for us high level KDF but for those whom wish to try it and to put our place in the STO story so the move from "angry KDF fighting feds" to endgame working against the greater threat makes sense.
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  • voyagerfan9751voyagerfan9751 Member Posts: 1,120 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    malkarris wrote: »
    Interesting on those screen shots. The Hassan the Undying guy is from the 2409 storyline as the one who killed the last leader of the Orions so that the current one could take over and ultimately ally with the KDF. Nice see more of the 2409 timeline stuff make it into the game.

    Hmm. This could be all kinds of interesting. Never Did trust that Melani. Perhaps we will see she has an ulterior motive in joining the Noble Klingon Empire. Orions are a Treacherous lot, we must never forget that.

    All and All, I am Happy with what I am seeing. Glad to see KDf is finally getting fleshed out, and can't wait to see what the actual storylines will be.
  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    lordmalak1 wrote: »
    So how many are gonna re-roll a KDF toon to play those rewashed fed missions ?
    ...and the handful of new ones that legitimize the future neglect the KDF will suffer for the the Romulan content development ?

    I fully intend to re-roll a KDF, I just still have my doubts wheather it should be a Klingon science officer or a Nausicaan pirate. :)

    And I don't think anyone will suffer from neglect any longer at least when talking about content and things to do. Sure, the KDF and the RR might get less ships annualy than the Feds., but that doesn't necessarily trouble me much as long as we and the Rommies get them on regular basis. Hell, we have ship disparity now and yet my KDF ships never failed to get the job done.
    But, talking about content, I don't think any faction will suffer a particular drought after LoR. The devs. have been busy, they rearanged the whole storyline in STO up till a moment when all factions content is intertwined so every faction can have it's bit of uniqueness and different pov on things, but the end game is mutual and so will be the following content.

    Anyway, I really like what I'm seeing here and I can't wait to try out all of it. It feels so nice to see the KDF getting better treatment and starting to shape up as a full faction. :)
    Exciting times to be a part of STO! :)
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  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I actually have several made toons at 22 looking forward to it and I plan to make new ones as well.
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  • lordmalak1lordmalak1 Member Posts: 4,681 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    shpoks wrote: »
    I fully intend to re-roll a KDF, I just still have my doubts wheather it should be a Klingon science officer or a Nausicaan pirate. :)

    <snip>
    Ya, sorry if I was so negative but something cosmic1 said yesterday is slowly sinking in and eroding what little hope I've been clinging to that STO will become the game I've imagined it has the potential to be. Notice I said game. My hope for a quailty sim has evaporated overnight with the knowledge the STO shares noting but a name with Star Trek canon. Romulans do nothing for me nor does the bottom filling of remastered fed missions into the toon leveling scheme.
    What bothers me is the complete lack of end-game additions and the homogination of any and all faction specific hardware as well as any dev thinking my gaming experience will miraculously become joyful again when I start another character from scratch.
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  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    lordmalak1 wrote: »
    Ya, sorry if I was so negative but something cosmic1 said yesterday is slowly sinking in and eroding what little hope I've been clinging to that STO will become the game I've imagined it has the potential to be.
    Don't you be blaming me. I'm innocent I tell you. Innocent! :)

    STO is it's own canon. It's like a novel, movie, or comic. It borrows from canon and then makes whatever changes it deems necessary - and that CBS will allow. It's never going to be some perfect Trek ideal. The problem with the Trek ideal is that there's no such thing. People who say they love Trek will tell you how much Enterprise or Voyager sucked and how they hardly ever watched it. They dismiss anything they don't like as non or soft canon and keep on going - such as the new movies. Trek is millions of fans in different camps completely dismissing the other camps that don't fit into their ideologies.

    STO spends it time trying to make everyone happy. It's all about fan-boyism - try and keep as many players as happy as possible so that they can keep paying money. The problem is all those fan-boys want something different - back on that Trek ideology thing. When you try and please two different camps you have clashing canon.

    STO is never going to be anyone's Trek ideal. It's just STO: it's own canon loosely based on many different parts of the originals. I can accept that, just as I can accept a new series or movie. I love Trek for what it represents, not what it is. :)
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  • lordmalak1lordmalak1 Member Posts: 4,681 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Yup, I get that now. The fan-boyism support in this genre-fantasy game isn't what I imagined STO was about.

    ...Only took a year to come to this realization. Acceptance may take longer.
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  • travelingmastertravelingmaster Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    bitemepwe wrote: »
    Exactly. The low level content is not really for us high level KDF but for those whom wish to try it and to put our place in the STO story so the move from "angry KDF fighting feds" to endgame working against the greater threat makes sense.

    But that ultimately clashes with PvP. If it's more like a subdued cold war, why is there PvP at the higher levels? Why do we have Ker'rat as a 'resource gathering competition' zone that goes up to lvl 50?

    I WANT war between the Klingons and the Federation. It keeps thing interesting, rather than just having both sides join together to shoot the dumb AI enemies and live in peace and brotherhood, blah blah.
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  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    All I wanted was a completed KDf experience that immersed the player in the faction. Substance to give playing one meaning and a purpose of intent with a KDF toon, story.

    Grabbing the hardcore KDF fan is easy (though its hard to keep some when you do not give them much as you well have seen).
    Its the new and curiuos player that needs to be courted, so to speak, if the Devs expect any albiet slow but hopefully steady ship up in the amount of people actually playing KDF and not just farming them for DL.

    Completing the faction helps toward those goals, both player numbers and monetary gains, in the long run.

    Even though I have been burnt to near cinder by the last years as a fan and waiting and am happy the start (and hopefully end) of the faction is at hand.
    Heck it looks like they may even have added another Undine mission. Thats cool.

    Maybe in months farther ahead we can finally get some KDF c-store items that have value to a KDF player mindset in design and function to boost numbers, etc. etc.

    I cant say I'm not excited to see what May holds.
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  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    But that ultimately clashes with PvP. If it's more like a subdued cold war, why is there PvP at the higher levels? Why do we have Ker'rat as a 'resource gathering competition' zone that goes up to lvl 50?

    For the feds maybe but not us Klingons.
    If the new missions on both sides are set up right the war can make sense as the byproduct ofthe player being a "youthful" low ranking officer thrust to greatness unknowning of the Undine infiltration that ultimately caused the war by inner-faction subvesrion politics on bothsides to sow chaos in the quadrant in prep for an invasion as he/she grows through the story in both experience and ranks to learn that not all is as he/she has been told by one's superiors and a larger threat exists to be battle and possible old grudges out aside to win.

    Such a progression allows for pvp as being ignorant up to a point then such PvP (unless the have given it concrete reason with story in May) as the high level player encounters can be put down to the fact that in the story YOU (really everyone) are the scarce hero in Hard times fighting for the survival of everyone and those you are fighting in PvP are probally assumed to be those in any faction that are not in the "know" and still yoked to evil masters.

    As a KDF though, we ahve it easy. We can just PvP for a true dislike of the federation and or Romulans.

    Otherwise at some point one must do a small suspension of belief.

    It is a game afterall.
    I WANT war between the Klingons and the Federation. It keeps thing interesting, rather than just having both sides join together to shoot the dumb AI enemies and live in peace and brotherhood, blah blah.

    Your preaching to the choir. I wished they had gone moq to the wall with the PT2409 storyline and really made a grand war of the whole game and put all the whole "buddy-buddy" stuff on a seperate server that one gained access to as you leveled up so you could play the lone hero that "gets it*" when it suited yourself.

    As the ferengi says, " War is good for bussiness " and I have always felt that if PvP had been grown (as PWE once stated they wished) STo could have sold many starnge andf fun items to those wanting some edge to overcome "whatever" they felt they lacked to compete against others, not to mention items for palyers to bring into Open zone control areas for fun and that extra edge.
    Sure balance would have been all spun out of whack, but then again it aint exactly standing still now.

    * remember when the players where told that many just did not get it? Harsh times then. I'm liking the new ones better.
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  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    But that ultimately clashes with PvP. If it's more like a subdued cold war, why is there PvP at the higher levels? Why do we have Ker'rat as a 'resource gathering competition' zone that goes up to lvl 50?

    I WANT war between the Klingons and the Federation. It keeps thing interesting, rather than just having both sides join together to shoot the dumb AI enemies and live in peace and brotherhood, blah blah.
    PvP is really outside of the story. It has no impact on the story. It's really just war-games as nothing is gained or lost when doing PvP. PvP is just personal gratification in defeating others, and you can get that feeling whether there's a war or not. So whether it's a bunch of Feds and KDF going at it for their civilizations or just to test each other's technology is all just in the imagination anyway.
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • farmallmfarmallm Member Posts: 4,630 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I will look forward to it. Specially if they do some KDF original missions/stories. I can handle some of the copy/paste. But at least give something KDF style. You will see me doing those missions to see what rewards and story will be.
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  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,557 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Before LoR, Fed has 45 unique missions not including patrol missions and KDF has 9 unique missions. With LoR, Feds have 35 unique missions and KDF has 23 unique missions. So KDF gets 10 more missions that are shared with the Federation and 14 new missions with 3 of them part of the new tutorial.
  • born2bwild1born2bwild1 Member Posts: 1,329 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    thecosmic1 wrote: »
    Klingons are always at war with everyone, including each other. :)

    By end-game the Fed/KDF war is essentially in cease-fire. The two groups are working together against the bigger threat the Borg impose.

    So what you really have is a war in the first 15-20 levels, then you start to realize there's bigger problems in the galaxy then just Feds and KDF angry at each other.

    There is no "war"

    you do everything allied at end game - I went into an Arena PvP today and for the first time noticed the green fly-by that says "Let the war 'games' begin"

    So even PvP fighting is war games - not actual war.

    Let's not even talk about the silliness of Ker'rat - sever dozen Borg ships around - yet we fight them as allies everywhere but there? That makes a lot of sense.

    edit - just saw your last post - why do they still call it a war?
  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    edit - just saw your last post - why do they still call it a war?
    Well, it is a war until around level 15/16 on the Fed side. That's when the Feds leave KDF space and head into Romulan space. After that the war is a lot more ethereal than factual. :)

    One of the things the game doesn't really handle well is time progression. Who we are on the day we ding 50 is supposed to be a considerable time from who we were when we started in the Tutorial. Because it only takes a week, or month, to get there we never have a real sense of time or change in the universe.

    I remember a post on the old forum where someone had looked at the stardates of missions from when were were level 50 and compared them to the stardates at level 1 and there was something like 2 years which had passed. I never bothered to verify that, and there's been a lot of changes to the game since that post, but if that's true then there's a lot of history being made and opinions changed in those years. We've just never been aware of it.

    To me, it just seems a little hard to justify war when you are doing so many cross-faction events at level cap. "To me it's just better to assume there's a cease-fire sometime around the Cardassian sector and leave it at that. :)
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  • voyagerfan9751voyagerfan9751 Member Posts: 1,120 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    thecosmic1 wrote: »
    Well, it is a war until around level 15/16 on the Fed side. That's when the Feds leave KDF space and head into Romulan space. After that the war is a lot more ethereal than factual. :)

    One of the things the game doesn't really handle well is time progression. Who we are on the day we ding 50 is supposed to be a considerable time from who we were when we started in the Tutorial. Because it only takes a week, or month, to get there we never have a real sense of time or change in the universe.

    I remember a post on the old forum where someone had looked at the stardates of missions from when were were level 50 and compared them to the stardates at level 1 and there was something like 2 years which had passed. I never bothered to verify that, and there's been a lot of changes to the game since that post, but if that's true then there's a lot of history being made and opinions changed in those years. We've just never been aware of it.

    To me, it just seems a little hard to justify war when you are doing so many cross-faction events at level cap. "To me it's just better to assume there's a cease-fire sometime around the Cardassian sector and leave it at that. :)

    This is probably the best explanation of it all. With all MMOs you need to have things that are both there for new players, and yet not for older players.

    So while the war might have ended for a level 40 Player lets say, A newly created level 10 player is still knee deep in it.

    Think of each player existing in his own little universe. So the level 40 player is a few months/years ahead of the level 10. Kind of confusing I realize, but it is something you get used to in MMOs.
  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,557 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I go with the idea that my characters are the chosen one. So it is mostly just me playing and doing the various missions. Works very well with there being thousands of Vice Admirals and Generals around.
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