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Ship weapons proc. When do they activate?

onlyslightlybentonlyslightlybent Member Posts: 80 Arc User
edited March 2013 in PvP Gameplay
When the weapons proc. activates a roll is it because you hit the shield or hull or does it just roll when you hit the hull?
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  • corgatagcorgatag Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    It activates on hitting either hull or shields.

    The more interesting question is whether the proc chance is per torpedo/shot or per volley/cycle. I believe Borticus posted that most things proc per torpedo/shot, but there are a couple of abilities that proc per volley/cycle.
  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    its also 1 chance per weapon cycle, not 1 chance per single hit
  • shar487ashar487a Member Posts: 1,292 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    its also 1 chance per weapon cycle, not 1 chance per single hit

    This is correct.

    Relevant thread: http://deepspacealliance.blogspot.co.uk/2012/08/game-mechanics-revealed-dual-cannons-vs.html
  • ocp001ocp001 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    its also 1 chance per weapon cycle, not 1 chance per single hit

    IIRC, some abilities like tetryon glider are calculated on a per shot basis. Off the top of my head SNB doffs, the Isis perception doff are also per shot basis.

    Was never sure about DEM however, always assumed it was per cycle, which is why turrets and cannons seem to benefit more from it.
  • darkfader1988darkfader1988 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    its also 1 chance per weapon cycle, not 1 chance per single hit

    ^that.

    /10char
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  • darkfader1988darkfader1988 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    ocp001 wrote: »
    IIRC, some abilities like tetryon glider are calculated on a per shot basis. Off the top of my head SNB doffs, the Isis perception doff are also per shot basis.

    Was never sure about DEM however, always assumed it was per cycle, which is why turrets and cannons seem to benefit more from it.

    DEM/Glider is no proc really, so yeah this is per shot basis.

    Doff procs, Weapon procs, its all per weapon cycle. So on a torpedo its most likely alot longer then on a turret or single cannon.
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  • ocp001ocp001 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    DEM/Glider is no proc really, so yeah this is per shot basis.

    Doff procs, Weapon procs, its all per weapon cycle. So on a torpedo its most likely alot longer then on a turret or single cannon.

    I knew some smart Panda would have the knowledge to keep me straight :D
  • thegrimcorsairthegrimcorsair Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    ocp001 wrote: »
    IIRC, some abilities like tetryon glider are calculated on a per shot basis. Off the top of my head SNB doffs, the Isis perception doff are also per shot basis.

    Was never sure about DEM however, always assumed it was per cycle, which is why turrets and cannons seem to benefit more from it.

    DEM and Tet Glider have the same functionality. It's part of the reason why they're so much stronger with cannons+CRF than beams. Their affects are applied on tick of damage the energy weapon generates. In Tet Glider's case, the affect is applied to each facing as well.
    If you feel Keel'el's effect is well designed, please, for your own safety, be very careful around shallow pools of water.
  • darkfader1988darkfader1988 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    DEM and Tet Glider have the same functionality. It's part of the reason why they're so much stronger with cannons+CRF than beams. Their affects are applied on tick of damage the energy weapon generates. In Tet Glider's case, the affect is applied to each facing as well.

    Yap, like DC's have faster cycle and more shots per cycle then DHC's. (2 vs 4 i believe) Moar procS!!!!

    and cycle is 3 vs 2 sec or so.
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  • thegrimcorsairthegrimcorsair Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Yap, like DC's have faster cycle and more shots per cycle then DHC's. (2 vs 4 i believe) Moar procS!!!!

    and cycle is 3 vs 2 sec or so.

    The main catch to using DC's for DEM and Glider builds is that they tend to be harder on weapon energy* with prolonged firing than DHC's, which cuts in significantly to the abilities of both DEM and Glider, even when overcapping weapon power.

    *Both DEM and Glider are very sensitive to your weapon power level, for those that might not know.
    If you feel Keel'el's effect is well designed, please, for your own safety, be very careful around shallow pools of water.
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