I bought an LTS for STO back when it was a subscription-only game, and broke even (600-Day Vet) before F2P. And even since F2P started, I've been earning a monthly stipend. I also bought an LTS for CO (which includes it's own stipend), and I play that from time-to-time when I want a break from STO. Still, STO is my favorite of the two... My "main" game.
Overall I enjoy playing STO/CO. I have some complaints, and I no longer blindly purchase "everything" in order to "support" the game, as I do not fully trust I'll get my "investment's worth" out of Cryptic. Still, I do buy things from time-to-time (usually only on sale).
When Neverwinter Beta was announced, I took a look at it, and I'm like... "Meh." I even considered buying this Founder's Pack, but it's not even an LTS, despite being priced as one. Nope. NW is all F2P. There's no stipend for Founders, and after I bought all the promo/intro stuff I bought for STO, 90% of which my characters no longer use, I expect most of the fluff in that FP to be useless after a few hours play. Certainly not worth $200.
That, and I don't really have time/money for another game. Especially not one where I'll have to "pay for everything" starting at the ground floor - In STO, I'm well established, and it's easy to pick and choose what, if anything, to spend "extra" cash on. If I start NW, I wouldn't have years of previous grind and purchases to prop me up.
As for the "Free" Andorian Starter Pack. Heh. I already bought that Starter Pack-part back when it was originally released, I certainly don't need another. Likewise, I don't need another Lt-level ship, I'll throw away after minutes of play. I've already got the Connie, NX-01, and that Light Sci Ship (can't think of it's name) to choose from when starting a new toon.
See? Already established, and "twice bitten, thrice shy". So, still, no thanks.
I tried to see it from the non-STO player point of view, that you're just trying to get a new NW player to also sample STO, and maybe hook a few new players to both games. I suppose PW adding STO into the kitchen sink of offers with the FP purchase may help boost sales, but I'd feel bad for a player who tried STO only to find they would no longer use any of the free gear after a couple of hours. At least I'd've thrown in a special Andorian Account-wide BOff unlock with a special trait that might still be worthwhile when they get to end game (nothing too OP, but something on par with the Borg BO's Efficient, Romulan BO Crit Buff, or like the "Veteran" BOff, PhotoDoc, Android, etc. etc.), or some other end-game worthy item. >shrug<
P.S. I wonder too, why no CO bonus? I'd take that as a sad sign for Champs.
You can find/contact me in game as @PatricianVetinari. Playing STO since Feb 2010.
Well for those that drop $200 on NW because they like NW then that's a swell deal - how about those of us that already dropped $200 on a STO LTS - any freebies in NW for us?
Of course not.
Hey, we had a "more to come..." tag for a very long time ;p
Unfortunately this materialized as instant veteran-rewards.
Beta, LTA, CE, Multiple preorder Versions, all Addon Packs except AoY, nearly all KDF/Rom and ~50% of all Fedships, over 25 LockboxShips, Endurer of Atari's "Year of Hell", but...
Indeed, rather odd Cryptic didn't include anything for their other game but not surprising considering the very limited resources the game is receiving.
Hey, we had a "more to come..." tag for a very long time ;p
Unfortunately this materialized as instant veteran-rewards.
Well, to be fair, my LTS was a good deal (at the time) - I bought it during Beta to support the Devs and because I hoped it'd eventually pay for itself (which it did) - would I buy one now? No. Even with all the Vet Rewards and the stipend, I don't think it's worth $200.
It'd be nice if the 'generosity' wasn't only about selling NW HotN packs though - why not give Champs and STO LTS/subscribers a little incentive to check out NW?
Not that I expect that, Cryptic's motives are shamelessly transparent these days.
Indeed, rather odd Cryptic didn't include anything for their other game but not surprising considering the very limited resources the game is receiving.
Did some snooping on the CO side, found a response as to why there isn't an item.
Hell, no need to be morbid. We built an item out for this, but tech issues have prevented it from being included. We're working to get it added after the fact, but that may not be possible -- if not, we'll have a new item in reserve that we can make available in other means.
I've said this ingame many times and I will reiterate it here, just for the benefit of players who are not familiar with the history of the event:
There was a sci-fi mmo I used to play that was sabotaged for no other reason then the company who owned it wanted it to die.
Shortly before it ended, they did a promotion similar to this one Cryptic is now offering.
It went something like this:
Your sci-fi MMO is closing down, but as compensation, we're offering you free access to our new fantasy mmo which is coming soon.
This was a blatant stunt to get as many players into the game at launch, to make it appear popular.
It backfired spectularly!
The majority of the playerbase who were given the offer simply declined it.
And that's the impression I'm getting here.
It's inappropriate to pitch a fantasy game at sci-fi players.
They're completely different worlds/fanbases.
Cryptic should just give it up and stop linking STO to NWO.
Bees like honey, they don't like vinegar.
Everytime someone makes a character that is an copy of an existing superhuman, Creativity is sad
You're getting free STO items from Neverwinter if you're a Hero of the North Founder, which is noted in the blog. Also, you're not just getting the STO items, but all of the other items listed here for other PWE games: http://www.perfectworld.com/news/?p=839091
Cheers,
Brandon =/\=
Seems odd that there's nothing for champions on that list.
But for STO, it might be nice if there was a costume piece or a catchy neverwinter related title ("Never Afraid of Winter", "Defender of Neverwinter"), or something along those lines for veterans who have both.
Or maybe a weapon, like a + 5 Sword of Dragonslaying (that's just a repurposed naussican sword with a medieval themed skin).
Cross-promotion happens all the time within publishing studios, Captains. This isn't a new concept If NW doesn't interest you, that's okay! But if it does, and you're interested in becoming a Founder, that's okay too!
This is interesting to consider. Had STO been introduced as F2P in 2010, would I have been drawn to such things as an Officer's Pack (or something comparable to this Hero of the North pack)? Maybe. And even it if had included goodies for Champions, I may have looked at those as a curiosity if nothing else. Not something I'd calculate to be of value. I may have eventually peeked at that game after I got my initial STO fix. But my primary choice to spend for the pack would have been based purely upon STO incentives. Not anything for other games.
Regarding the STO incentives offered within the HotN Founder's Pack, They are merely tacked on as part of a PWE Games Gift Package. Very much lost in the fine print and require a few more clicks for the curious. So I don't see those items as being as exclusive as the NW incentives in large, bold webpage boxes.
The T1 Kumari costume was the only thing that raised my eyebrow. Is that not the original Enterprise series costume that Kumari fans were hopeful to see included with the Kumari Bundle? I don't need it myself. But I would like my fellow player's who have longed for this to have the opportunity as well.
Perhaps within 3 to 6 months of NW's launch, our fans of the original Kumari costume may be able to acquire that for themselves later through STO itself? For our own communities sake I'd like to see that sooner rather than later.
(/\) Exploring Star Trek Online Since July 2008 (/\)
It's most definitely not. Just wait until what you learn tomorrow
STO Mirror Universe will open up with a complete leveling path for Federation and Klingon plus your captain can cross over and level up there too?
*I'm rooting for a new faction but I will honestly be shocked if that is what it is. I would RATHER see a ton of new content for my VAs and perhaps a level cap.
I've said this ingame many times and I will reiterate it here, just for the benefit of players who are not familiar with the history of the event:
There was a sci-fi mmo I used to play that was sabotaged for no other reason then the company who owned it wanted it to die.
Shortly before it ended, they did a promotion similar to this one Cryptic is now offering.
It went something like this:
Your sci-fi MMO is closing down, but as compensation, we're offering you free access to our new fantasy mmo which is coming soon.
This was a blatant stunt to get as many players into the game at launch, to make it appear popular.
It backfired spectularly!
The majority of the playerbase who were given the offer simply declined it.
And that's the impression I'm getting here.
It's inappropriate to pitch a fantasy game at sci-fi players.
They're completely different worlds/fanbases.
Cryptic should just give it up and stop linking STO to NWO.
I think it's more of a perk for prospective NW fans to try other pwe products... I don't see anyone buying it for those side perks but your diehard DD fans. This is a chance though for them to pick up some more players from other companies and get them try some other F2P games they offer while they wait for the launch of NW.
I myself am interested in playing NW now that I was given beta access with my lifetime sto purchase. I wouldn't have thought I would like it until I played two weeks ago. I don't know if I'll spend money or not on zen for it but I'm eager to play it now that I sampled it. STO is always my first game but NW was fun to play as well. I wont buy a founders pack because it's not my thing at that price point unless it came with a stipend. If I were a DD fan though I can see this as a good offer and chance to introduce all their games with little risk to the purchaser.
p.s. No company is going to shutdown their largest product that is clearly making them money. This title also has a huge cult following as well as the new movie and another trek game coming this year. If NW is anything like the direction STO is headed, it's going to be a huge improvement.
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Cross-promotion happens all the time within publishing studios, Captains. This isn't a new concept If NW doesn't interest you, that's okay! But if it does, and you're interested in becoming a Founder, that's okay too!
Cheers,
Brandon =/\=
Let me start off by saying that I love STO and I had a blast playing the Neverwinter Beta 2. I will be in the Beta 3 if I have time. I would absolutely buy the HotN pack IF I had the money laying around. I have no problem with the cross-promotion. How about you find out if there is any plans for a flip to it. I.E. If a player buys the STO LTS, they recieve some goodies for Neverwinter et al.
Let me start off by saying that I love STO and I had a blast playing the Neverwinter Beta 2. I will be in the Beta 3 if I have time. I would absolutely buy the HotN pack IF I had the money laying around. I have no problem with the cross-promotion. How about you find out if there is any plans for a flip to it. I.E. If a player buys the STO LTS, they recieve some goodies for Neverwinter et al.
Hehehe, well I certainly wouldn't argue with that.
Cross-promotion happens all the time within publishing studios, Captains. This isn't a new concept If NW doesn't interest you, that's okay! But if it does, and you're interested in becoming a Founder, that's okay too!
Cheers,
Brandon =/\=
They were referencing Tabula Rasa. Richard Garriott went on a trip to space which is something that most of us want to do. When he got back, there was a message on the Tabula Rasa webpage stating that due to his experience in space, he will be going on to other things and close Tabula Rasa down in a few months. A few months later, we get a response saying that it is an underhanded Corporate trick by NCSoft and Richard Garriott never made that message. Giving access to AI ON Beta (name is being censored for some reason) and the first month of **** when it launched was supposed to be compensation for when it closed. I played **** Beta and still have the Collector's Edition activation key for it. Problem was that the forced PvP was too annoying.
Dan the man did say vets were going to be getting new benefits soon.... coincidence?
Well I certainly hope it is a couple items for Neverwinter.
I mean, a "perk" of the LTS was the Neverwinter Beta access, but they GAVE AWAY THOUSANDS of these Beta keys.
Where's the perk? the perk was i didn't have to hit up one of the dozens of free giveaways?
here is a "perk" for my $300:
Neverwinter bonus items:
1 Neverwinter Star Kit
1 Special Mount that looks like this
[SIGPIC]This is not as good as it used to be...[/SIGPIC]
Well I certainly hope it is a couple items for Neverwinter.
I mean, a "perk" of the LTS was the Neverwinter Beta access, but they GAVE AWAY THOUSANDS of these Beta keys.
Where's the perk? the perk was i didn't have to hit up one of the dozens of free giveaways?
here is a "perk" for my $300:
Neverwinter bonus items:
1 Neverwinter Star Kit
1 Special Mount that looks like this
I doubt anyone bought LTS JUST for the Neverwinter beta....
I think there is some sort of conceptual error that people can't seem to wrap their heads around that not every product made for a game is made specifically for people that have been in this game from the beginning or that every single item is a "must have" item.
We've seen this before with almost every other cross-game promotion. This is a starter pack. It's a perk for Neverwinter Founders to take a look into PWE's other games. And believe it or not, there are people who may not have heard of STO or have had any real motive to check out STO, but they're real excited about Neverwinter to get their D&D whatever thing going on, excited enough about Neverwinter to shell out for the big Founder's pack (one of my ex-WoW guildmates just did this in fact*) and this helps promote STO and all of PWE's other games to them.
Not you. You're already here. You've probably played this game enough to not need or even make be able to make use of these items on any of your STO toons anyway. These are for people starting new with STO (or any of those other games), and this promotion helps bring attention to the game for those that may not have come here otherwise.
To recap: Neverwinter Founder program perks are not "incentives" for STO players to buy NW Founder packages. They are "perks" for people that buy NW Founder packages (presumably b/c they like NW) to take a look at PWE's other games too. Don't buy a Founder's package because you want the little Cracker Jack prize that goes to an entirely different game, buy a Founder's package because you like the game that it's for. The little Cracker Jack prize is just that... an extra perk. These starter items, you don't need (especially as a STO player dedicated enough to be reading/posting on forums) but they're nice little trinkets for those that might want to try it out. Don't get all mad b/c someone else is getting a little trinket that you know matters not in the long run.
*my ex-WoW friend also mentioned that he had never heard of games like Battle/War of the Immortals and being a MOBA fan, this promotion has gotten him to check it out.
Yeah, cross promotion isn't a bad thing, the rewards aren't particularly special anyway. If it was a unique mission, now that would be cause for a riot.
A few months later, we get a response saying that it is an underhanded Corporate trick by NCSoft and Richard Garriott never made that message. Giving access to AI ON Beta (name is being censored for some reason) and the first month of **** when it launched was supposed to be compensation for when it closed. I played **** Beta and still have the Collector's Edition activation key for it. Problem was that the forced PvP was too annoying.
....and why do you think I'm no longer looking forward to Blade and Soul?
....and why do you think I'm no longer looking forward to Blade and Soul?
City of Heroes did it for me. The game was getting really good and they let everyone go without any warning. At least Tabula Rasa had some compensation and their devs was allowed to work on the game till the end. Was some very interesting loot released to the public that would never exist in any other MMO if they end was not known.
And yes, he is right, Richard Garriot made no such announcement.
I didn't know Richard ingame, but I'd seen him enough to recognize his handle when he came ingame to make appearances.
When someone claiming to be Richard Garriot appeared ingame to make the announcement, I read the handle and immediately realized it wasn't him!
Also, the prose style was too stilted, Richard Garriot was never that formal.
I studied the case for roughly a year afterwards and well, there was so much backstabbing and betrayal going on, I was horrified to learn what really happened!
But if you feel the need to market these things, choose your target audience carefuly.
We are not the target audience, so don't tell us.
Tell the Neverwinter players instead and leave us out of it.
Bees like honey, they don't like vinegar.
Everytime someone makes a character that is an copy of an existing superhuman, Creativity is sad
But if you feel the need to market these things, choose your target audience carefuly.
We are not the target audience, so don't tell us.
Tell the Neverwinter players instead and leave us out of it.
You know this how? if STO players would play NW or if NW players would play STO.
Please tell me where you got your polls from , have you been asking around the games I'm sure Cryptic would love your data.
it's clear Cryptic is targeting NW players to try STO.
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Overall I enjoy playing STO/CO. I have some complaints, and I no longer blindly purchase "everything" in order to "support" the game, as I do not fully trust I'll get my "investment's worth" out of Cryptic. Still, I do buy things from time-to-time (usually only on sale).
When Neverwinter Beta was announced, I took a look at it, and I'm like... "Meh." I even considered buying this Founder's Pack, but it's not even an LTS, despite being priced as one. Nope. NW is all F2P. There's no stipend for Founders, and after I bought all the promo/intro stuff I bought for STO, 90% of which my characters no longer use, I expect most of the fluff in that FP to be useless after a few hours play. Certainly not worth $200.
That, and I don't really have time/money for another game. Especially not one where I'll have to "pay for everything" starting at the ground floor - In STO, I'm well established, and it's easy to pick and choose what, if anything, to spend "extra" cash on. If I start NW, I wouldn't have years of previous grind and purchases to prop me up.
As for the "Free" Andorian Starter Pack. Heh. I already bought that Starter Pack-part back when it was originally released, I certainly don't need another. Likewise, I don't need another Lt-level ship, I'll throw away after minutes of play. I've already got the Connie, NX-01, and that Light Sci Ship (can't think of it's name) to choose from when starting a new toon.
See? Already established, and "twice bitten, thrice shy". So, still, no thanks.
I tried to see it from the non-STO player point of view, that you're just trying to get a new NW player to also sample STO, and maybe hook a few new players to both games. I suppose PW adding STO into the kitchen sink of offers with the FP purchase may help boost sales, but I'd feel bad for a player who tried STO only to find they would no longer use any of the free gear after a couple of hours. At least I'd've thrown in a special Andorian Account-wide BOff unlock with a special trait that might still be worthwhile when they get to end game (nothing too OP, but something on par with the Borg BO's Efficient, Romulan BO Crit Buff, or like the "Veteran" BOff, PhotoDoc, Android, etc. etc.), or some other end-game worthy item. >shrug<
P.S. I wonder too, why no CO bonus? I'd take that as a sad sign for Champs.
You can find/contact me in game as @PatricianVetinari. Playing STO since Feb 2010.
its a LT. ship which is a T1 not T3
Hey, we had a "more to come..." tag for a very long time ;p
Unfortunately this materialized as instant veteran-rewards.
Indeed, rather odd Cryptic didn't include anything for their other game but not surprising considering the very limited resources the game is receiving.
Well, to be fair, my LTS was a good deal (at the time) - I bought it during Beta to support the Devs and because I hoped it'd eventually pay for itself (which it did) - would I buy one now? No. Even with all the Vet Rewards and the stipend, I don't think it's worth $200.
It'd be nice if the 'generosity' wasn't only about selling NW HotN packs though - why not give Champs and STO LTS/subscribers a little incentive to check out NW?
Not that I expect that, Cryptic's motives are shamelessly transparent these days.
PWE,also known as death by a thousand cuts
Actually they just updated it so that you get 2 million Astral Diamonds with the HotN pack instead of 750,000.
Did some snooping on the CO side, found a response as to why there isn't an item.
http://co-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=3056061&postcount=20
Trailturtle being the sole surviving CO rep.
Mine Trap Supporter
There was a sci-fi mmo I used to play that was sabotaged for no other reason then the company who owned it wanted it to die.
Shortly before it ended, they did a promotion similar to this one Cryptic is now offering.
It went something like this:
Your sci-fi MMO is closing down, but as compensation, we're offering you free access to our new fantasy mmo which is coming soon.
This was a blatant stunt to get as many players into the game at launch, to make it appear popular.
It backfired spectularly!
The majority of the playerbase who were given the offer simply declined it.
And that's the impression I'm getting here.
It's inappropriate to pitch a fantasy game at sci-fi players.
They're completely different worlds/fanbases.
Cryptic should just give it up and stop linking STO to NWO.
Bees like honey, they don't like vinegar.
Everytime someone makes a character that is an copy of an existing superhuman, Creativity is sad
Seems odd that there's nothing for champions on that list.
But for STO, it might be nice if there was a costume piece or a catchy neverwinter related title ("Never Afraid of Winter", "Defender of Neverwinter"), or something along those lines for veterans who have both.
Or maybe a weapon, like a + 5 Sword of Dragonslaying (that's just a repurposed naussican sword with a medieval themed skin).
Shouldn't be taken as anything sad/ bad. TL;DR: Unfortunately, there were technical difficulties with the Champs promo item. Longer version: http://co-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=3056061&postcount=20
Cheers,
Brandon =/\=
You can find/contact me in game as @PatricianVetinari. Playing STO since Feb 2010.
It's most definitely not. Just wait until what you learn tomorrow
Also, if you read the blog, it's not just STO, but all PWE games (sans 2 due to technical difficulties, see my post above): http://www.perfectworld.com/news/?p=839091
Cross-promotion happens all the time within publishing studios, Captains. This isn't a new concept
Cheers,
Brandon =/\=
Regarding the STO incentives offered within the HotN Founder's Pack, They are merely tacked on as part of a PWE Games Gift Package. Very much lost in the fine print and require a few more clicks for the curious. So I don't see those items as being as exclusive as the NW incentives in large, bold webpage boxes.
The T1 Kumari costume was the only thing that raised my eyebrow. Is that not the original Enterprise series costume that Kumari fans were hopeful to see included with the Kumari Bundle? I don't need it myself. But I would like my fellow player's who have longed for this to have the opportunity as well.
Perhaps within 3 to 6 months of NW's launch, our fans of the original Kumari costume may be able to acquire that for themselves later through STO itself? For our own communities sake I'd like to see that sooner rather than later.
STO Mirror Universe will open up with a complete leveling path for Federation and Klingon plus your captain can cross over and level up there too?
*I'm rooting for a new faction but I will honestly be shocked if that is what it is. I would RATHER see a ton of new content for my VAs and perhaps a level cap.
I think it's more of a perk for prospective NW fans to try other pwe products... I don't see anyone buying it for those side perks but your diehard DD fans. This is a chance though for them to pick up some more players from other companies and get them try some other F2P games they offer while they wait for the launch of NW.
I myself am interested in playing NW now that I was given beta access with my lifetime sto purchase. I wouldn't have thought I would like it until I played two weeks ago. I don't know if I'll spend money or not on zen for it but I'm eager to play it now that I sampled it. STO is always my first game but NW was fun to play as well. I wont buy a founders pack because it's not my thing at that price point unless it came with a stipend. If I were a DD fan though I can see this as a good offer and chance to introduce all their games with little risk to the purchaser.
p.s. No company is going to shutdown their largest product that is clearly making them money. This title also has a huge cult following as well as the new movie and another trek game coming this year. If NW is anything like the direction STO is headed, it's going to be a huge improvement.
Lifetime Sub since June 2010
Let me start off by saying that I love STO and I had a blast playing the Neverwinter Beta 2. I will be in the Beta 3 if I have time. I would absolutely buy the HotN pack IF I had the money laying around. I have no problem with the cross-promotion. How about you find out if there is any plans for a flip to it. I.E. If a player buys the STO LTS, they recieve some goodies for Neverwinter et al.
Hehehe, well I certainly wouldn't argue with that.
Mine Trap Supporter
Dan the man did say vets were going to be getting new benefits soon.... coincidence?
They were referencing Tabula Rasa. Richard Garriott went on a trip to space which is something that most of us want to do. When he got back, there was a message on the Tabula Rasa webpage stating that due to his experience in space, he will be going on to other things and close Tabula Rasa down in a few months. A few months later, we get a response saying that it is an underhanded Corporate trick by NCSoft and Richard Garriott never made that message. Giving access to AI ON Beta (name is being censored for some reason) and the first month of **** when it launched was supposed to be compensation for when it closed. I played **** Beta and still have the Collector's Edition activation key for it. Problem was that the forced PvP was too annoying.
Well I certainly hope it is a couple items for Neverwinter.
I mean, a "perk" of the LTS was the Neverwinter Beta access, but they GAVE AWAY THOUSANDS of these Beta keys.
Where's the perk? the perk was i didn't have to hit up one of the dozens of free giveaways?
here is a "perk" for my $300:
Neverwinter bonus items:
1 Neverwinter Star Kit
1 Special Mount that looks like this
My character Tsin'xing
We've seen this before with almost every other cross-game promotion. This is a starter pack. It's a perk for Neverwinter Founders to take a look into PWE's other games. And believe it or not, there are people who may not have heard of STO or have had any real motive to check out STO, but they're real excited about Neverwinter to get their D&D whatever thing going on, excited enough about Neverwinter to shell out for the big Founder's pack (one of my ex-WoW guildmates just did this in fact*) and this helps promote STO and all of PWE's other games to them.
Not you. You're already here. You've probably played this game enough to not need or even make be able to make use of these items on any of your STO toons anyway. These are for people starting new with STO (or any of those other games), and this promotion helps bring attention to the game for those that may not have come here otherwise.
To recap: Neverwinter Founder program perks are not "incentives" for STO players to buy NW Founder packages. They are "perks" for people that buy NW Founder packages (presumably b/c they like NW) to take a look at PWE's other games too. Don't buy a Founder's package because you want the little Cracker Jack prize that goes to an entirely different game, buy a Founder's package because you like the game that it's for. The little Cracker Jack prize is just that... an extra perk. These starter items, you don't need (especially as a STO player dedicated enough to be reading/posting on forums) but they're nice little trinkets for those that might want to try it out. Don't get all mad b/c someone else is getting a little trinket that you know matters not in the long run.
*my ex-WoW friend also mentioned that he had never heard of games like Battle/War of the Immortals and being a MOBA fan, this promotion has gotten him to check it out.
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I know i didn't, I bought mine long ago, but i also doubt anyone bought the hero of the North pack to get the early beta access for Neverwinter...
Really its a free bonus if you happen to play both games..
Mass Effect 3 had Dragon Age armor for example...
Reckoning had ME armor as well... this isn't unheard of
....and why do you think I'm no longer looking forward to Blade and Soul?
City of Heroes did it for me. The game was getting really good and they let everyone go without any warning. At least Tabula Rasa had some compensation and their devs was allowed to work on the game till the end. Was some very interesting loot released to the public that would never exist in any other MMO if they end was not known.
Wildstar has to be very good for me to go back.
I wasn't referring to STO.
I meant my first mmo, which, sadly is no longer with us.
Starkaos knows which one it is, since:
And yes, he is right, Richard Garriot made no such announcement.
I didn't know Richard ingame, but I'd seen him enough to recognize his handle when he came ingame to make appearances.
When someone claiming to be Richard Garriot appeared ingame to make the announcement, I read the handle and immediately realized it wasn't him!
Also, the prose style was too stilted, Richard Garriot was never that formal.
I studied the case for roughly a year afterwards and well, there was so much backstabbing and betrayal going on, I was horrified to learn what really happened!
But if you feel the need to market these things, choose your target audience carefuly.
We are not the target audience, so don't tell us.
Tell the Neverwinter players instead and leave us out of it.
Bees like honey, they don't like vinegar.
Everytime someone makes a character that is an copy of an existing superhuman, Creativity is sad
You know this how? if STO players would play NW or if NW players would play STO.
Please tell me where you got your polls from , have you been asking around the games I'm sure Cryptic would love your data.
it's clear Cryptic is targeting NW players to try STO.