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emoejoeemoejoe Member Posts: 229 Arc User
edited March 2013 in PvP Gameplay
Would you prefer which of the following preferentially respectively

A: An all rules crazy town "white items" no doffs, all noobs equal playing field tournament. No cstore/p2w/fleet items/ rep. Even possibly poor noobs could have their items paid for, would cost what 500k to equip 1 toon?

B: A no rules crazy town tournament with everything allowed no holds barred. Only those with max kits, rep, all p2w items uni consoles cstore unlocks special editions fleet bonuses and doffcrits apply. poor noobs, too bad!

c: A tournament where the rules are decided by "everyone" who chooses to voice an opinion. A democratic rules proposal and acceptance system via voting could determine rules that concensus would agree to for the duration of the tournament. (most common attempt)

D: A TRIBBLE style tournament run by a biased fleet, that subsequently chooses/pushes for ruleset to favor their style of play.

E. A fun, awesome, party style tournament run by someone everyone loves (me). With rules i will unbiasedly consider but ultimately determine from my years of personal experience in game, and dealing with hundreds of players "qq". (or someone cool like me, ie :jorf tournament)

F. 1v1, 10v10, 2v2, or other unusual match size tournaments/ league play. (much more long term player effort involved on all sides)



id prefer E, F, C, A, B, D in that order.

ps. Id play in type D tourneys! make the worst ruleset u can think of!
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  • doffingcomradedoffingcomrade Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Stock Miranda Tournament.
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    D) Tric Mirandas

    Tac Captains

    Traits - Accurate, Elusive, Efficient Captain, Warp Theorist

    Passives
    New Rom - Precision, Sensor Targeting Assault, (QSM)
    Omega - Omega Weapon Training, Omega Graviton Amplifier

    THY1
    EPtE1
    JS1

    1x Rom Crit BOFF & 2x Rom Def BOFFs

    DOFFs - 2x SDO(BFI), 3x PWO(Torp)

    Deflector - AMACO
    Engine - Aegis
    Shields - AMACO

    Weapons
    Fore - 2x Tric Torp
    Aft - Tric Torp

    Consoles
    Tac - Borg
    Eng - Tachyo
    Sci - 0Point

    Devices - SFM, Eng Batt
  • dravenleeobarr1dravenleeobarr1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I want a tourney called "Deadpool's Slaughterhouse". In it, the only rules are NO HEALS (shield or hull, including Extends, EPtS and TT) and NO CLOAK. Sides are drawn up as 10v10. Ready....set.....MURDER AND MAYHEM!! First team to 50 wins, and the total top 5 damage in the match (could be a guy from the loosing team who had more damage than someone on winning team), and those top 5 move on to the next round, to be mixed in with a whole new group of ppl.

    The ultimate goal: find the 5 consistent heavy hitters, and throw them against a team of 7-10-ish ppl, and let the slaughterhouse begin. Fight to survive. Fight to see how high you can go. Since this would be a "Deadpool" style match, we can't do all this for free!!! 2 million EC buy in for the tourney.

    The final round goes like this: 50 kill limit. 5 man team goes up against 7-10 man team (depending on how many participated). 5 man team HAS to get 5 kills to even get everything started (let's face it, if you can't get 5 kills on a team, even a 10 man team, with no heals before they get to 50 kills, then you don't need to be here in the first place.) After 5 kills, 5 man team gets money for each kill towards the 50 limit. The more you kill, the more money you make. The first team to 50 wins. What ever money the 5 man team has won, gets split between all of them. The money that is left over, gets split between the 7-10 man team.

    So, any takers for the Slaughterhouse? Don't be shy.....where's everyone going? Can I come too? Guys?!
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  • naeviusnaevius Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    C,E

    In general, just have a (short) list of banned stuff. Everyone puts up a bond, which they lose if they use any banned items. Doffs can't be on the list because it can't be enforced, but AMS can be.
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  • ivantomdisplayivantomdisplay Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    E, for sure.
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  • evilito8evilito8 Member Posts: 39 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I vote Deadpool's Slaughterhouse! No such thing as heals in the real Trek Universe!
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  • gradstudent1gradstudent1 Member Posts: 633 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    dravenleeobarr1 wrote: »
    I want a tourney called "Deadpool's Slaughterhouse". In it, the only rules are NO HEALS (shield or hull, including Extends, EPtS and TT) and NO CLOAK. Sides are drawn up as 10v10. Ready....set.....MURDER AND MAYHEM!! First team to 50 wins, and the total top 5 damage in the match (could be a guy from the loosing team who had more damage than someone on winning team), and those top 5 move on to the next round, to be mixed in with a whole new group of ppl.

    The ultimate goal: find the 5 consistent heavy hitters, and throw them against a team of 7-10-ish ppl, and let the slaughterhouse begin. Fight to survive. Fight to see how high you can go. Since this would be a "Deadpool" style match, we can't do all this for free!!! 2 million EC buy in for the tourney.

    The final round goes like this: 50 kill limit. 5 man team goes up against 7-10 man team (depending on how many participated). 5 man team HAS to get 5 kills to even get everything started (let's face it, if you can't get 5 kills on a team, even a 10 man team, with no heals before they get to 50 kills, then you don't need to be here in the first place.) After 5 kills, 5 man team gets money for each kill towards the 50 limit. The more you kill, the more money you make. The first team to 50 wins. What ever money the 5 man team has won, gets split between all of them. The money that is left over, gets split between the 7-10 man team.

    So, any takers for the Slaughterhouse? Don't be shy.....where's everyone going? Can I come too? Guys?!

    Deadpool never ceases to make me smile. His idea is cool, even though it alienates me and my fellow healers--i'm not offended though!=)
  • gradstudent1gradstudent1 Member Posts: 633 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    emoejoe wrote: »
    Would you prefer which of the following preferentially respectively

    A: An all rules crazy town "white items" no doffs, all noobs equal playing field tournament. No cstore/p2w/fleet items/ rep. Even possibly poor noobs could have their items paid for, would cost what 500k to equip 1 toon?

    B: A no rules crazy town tournament with everything allowed no holds barred. Only those with max kits, rep, all p2w items uni consoles cstore unlocks special editions fleet bonuses and doffcrits apply. poor noobs, too bad!

    c: A tournament where the rules are decided by "everyone" who chooses to voice an opinion. A democratic rules proposal and acceptance system via voting could determine rules that concensus would agree to for the duration of the tournament. (most common attempt)

    D: A TRIBBLE style tournament run by a biased fleet, that subsequently chooses/pushes for ruleset to favor their style of play.

    E. A fun, awesome, party style tournament run by someone everyone loves (me). With rules i will unbiasedly consider but ultimately determine from my years of personal experience in game, and dealing with hundreds of players "qq". (or someone cool like me, ie :jorf tournament)

    F. 1v1, 10v10, 2v2, or other unusual match size tournaments/ league play. (much more long term player effort involved on all sides)



    id prefer E, F, C, A, B, D in that order.

    ps. Id play in type D tourneys! make the worst ruleset u can think of!

    In truth, Mini, I am in favor of E. Ideally, we could come up with a set of rules that all would agree on (D, the democratic system). The problem is that these committees--some of which I have served on--take up a massive amount of time that could be spent pewing, grinding, practing, etc. At the end of the day, the question of "fairness" in PvP is an ethical Gordian Knot, some of the complexity of which can only be addressed on the development end.

    So let's follow Alexander's example: Don't try to untie the knot, just cut it. Fast and efficient. In other words, I would be inclined to just have Mini (or someone else) make up rules--trusting they would be somewhat fair (he is a good guy after all)--and playing according to those rules. If some folks don't want to participate, then they don't need to. I don't think anyone--not even Mini!=)--will ever be able to consider these rules in an unbiased manner (there is no Archimedean point from which to view PvP, after all), but I do think rules can be made in a way that considers many viewpoints.

    The result of the "Gordian Approach" is a minimum amount of time spent in committee and a maximum amount of time spent pewing. And as my buddy Pheo once said, "Pew is life." So let's follow Alexander and Pheo and get on with pewing.
  • diogene0diogene0 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    B. Or A. Wouldn't play anything else.
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  • zorena#3961 zorena
    zorena#3961
         Member Posts: 254 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    gradstudent1 wrote: »
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    So D it is then, Because I don't like mini he runs "cheese setups" with no heals and he probably wants us to all play without shields. See how I just turned that E to a D?
    Noone.
  • lordmalak1lordmalak1 Member Posts: 4,681 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    A,E,C,B
    :cool:
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  • redrickyredricky Member Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Secret option A then B with roulette tiebreaker E+F. Two rounds, 5v5, first to 15 kills. Round 1 will be all rules crazy town and round 2 will be no rules crazy town. In the event of a 1-1 score after two rounds the third will be selected at random from a short list of options designed by our esteemed peers to produce an interesting match but still throw a curve ball like "So-and-so's rules but it's 2v2." Teams would have a copy of the short list in advance of course.

    Simple, no?
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  • kevaldtkevaldt Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    tried to quote but didnt work... damn forums
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  • kevaldtkevaldt Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    dravenleeobarr1 wrote: »
    I want a tourney called "Deadpool's Slaughterhouse". In it, the only rules are NO HEALS (shield or hull, including Extends, EPtS and TT) and NO CLOAK. Sides are drawn up as 10v10. Ready....set.....MURDER AND MAYHEM!! First team to 50 wins, and the total top 5 damage in the match (could be a guy from the loosing team who had more damage than someone on winning team), and those top 5 move on to the next round, to be mixed in with a whole new group of ppl.

    The ultimate goal: find the 5 consistent heavy hitters, and throw them against a team of 7-10-ish ppl, and let the slaughterhouse begin. Fight to survive. Fight to see how high you can go. Since this would be a "Deadpool" style match, we can't do all this for free!!! 2 million EC buy in for the tourney.

    The final round goes like this: 50 kill limit. 5 man team goes up against 7-10 man team (depending on how many participated). 5 man team HAS to get 5 kills to even get everything started (let's face it, if you can't get 5 kills on a team, even a 10 man team, with no heals before they get to 50 kills, then you don't need to be here in the first place.) After 5 kills, 5 man team gets money for each kill towards the 50 limit. The more you kill, the more money you make. The first team to 50 wins. What ever money the 5 man team has won, gets split between all of them. The money that is left over, gets split between the 7-10 man team.

    So, any takers for the Slaughterhouse? Don't be shy.....where's everyone going? Can I come too? Guys?!

    Im in for this, Deadpool! sounds like good fun.
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  • maicake716maicake716 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    i vote a Red vrs Blue tourney.
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  • havamhavam Member Posts: 1,735 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    maicake716 wrote: »
    i vote a Red vrs Blue tourney.

    you elitest can go ahead and exploit te color palette and the character creator all you want.

    In less then 24h devoras and me are going to go WHHEEEEEEEEEE and pull the green trigger
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