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emoejoeemoejoe Member Posts: 229 Arc User
edited March 2013 in PvP Gameplay
rom boff + brel = never be seen. 6 mos post rlease and 2 months after a detailed intricate bug report post by me that was commented on by borticus "working ofn a fix"

well.. after

te 3rd patch to change rom boffs in the same time period andno fix..

whats the deal.
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  • emoejoeemoejoe Member Posts: 229 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    patrickngo wrote: »
    check the patch notes.

    check a brain. doesnt fixed. what dont get oyu DERPPPP


    yeah. brel still fires cloaked without detection even when scanned at 0 range....

    comebacksaywhat
  • darkfader1988darkfader1988 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    patrickngo wrote: »
    check the patch notes.

    This is why so many ppl are slowing themselves down, never believe anything b4 u tested it urself.
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  • redrickyredricky Member Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Yeah this is a drag. I was having a great time in pug CnH against somebody I consider a really superior escort pilot, like somebody that feels like a boss fight, you know? A b'rel on my side ganked him without being visible and he said he was going to stick to FvF for the rest of the night. Couldn't blame him.
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  • darkfader1988darkfader1988 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    redricky wrote: »
    Yeah this is a drag. I was having a great time in pug CnH against somebody I consider a really superior escort pilot, like somebody that feels like a boss fight, you know? A b'rel on my side ganked him without being visible and he said he was going to stick to FvF for the rest of the night. Couldn't blame him.

    A tranny tickle build? :D Or plasma even worse.

    I use a B'rel now but i still decloak like normal guy and then do my spike but sitting cloaked all time and abusing enhanced cloak, yeah... n00bish
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  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    not only is the brel invisible, everything he does to you is invisible too. having one of these glued to you for an entire C&H is proboly the least fun you can possibly have
  • shookyangshookyang Member Posts: 1,122
    edited March 2013
    not only is the brel invisible, everything he does to you is invisible too. having one of these glued to you for an entire C&H is proboly the least fun you can possibly have
    It gets boring for the B'rel Captain eventually. I don't even bother going into the queues any more with it. I'd switch it out, but I already got rid of my old BOFFs to make room for these.
  • naeviusnaevius Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I haven't seen an invisible Brel yet. Are they only invisible if your sensor skill is low? Or doesn't it matter?
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  • mustafatennickmustafatennick Member Posts: 868 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    naevius wrote: »
    I haven't seen an invisible Brel yet. Are they only invisible if your sensor skill is low? Or doesn't it matter?

    Nothing to do with skills its a bug

    Even without the subterfuge Boffs most sci captains even using sensor scan tend not to find brels as easy due to

    3 stealth sci consoles

    125 aux power

    A high stealth deflector

    (That's the way I roll anyway)

    (Obviously CPB and such will still find you like any other cloaked ship)

    Hey devs if I change my ship name to USS dark shadow instead of IKS dark shadow maybe then you'll fix it??
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    You can do 9 Sensors, run 4x Mk XII Sensor consoles, 125 Aux, use a Stealth detection deflector, pop an Aux batt, hit Sensor Scan...you'll see the Hegh'ta, Fleet Norgh, Fleet Hoh'SuS, and any raptors/battle cruisers that are cloaked - the ships watching the B'Rel fly at will - the B'Rel you'll never see.

    I think Mini said in the original thread that a guy in a Neb with the console(s) could see one sitting next to it? Would have to go look.

    Think some folks thought it was going to be fixed today, so they were trying to "enjoy" it in the days leading up to the patch - cause I've seen more folks flying them in Ker'rat. Some just on the KDF side and some glitching to hunt KDF. Found it futile to try to hunt them with my Fed Sci, whether Fed or KDF side. However, it's been kind of fun hunting them with my no-Tac Sci Hegh'ta.

    C'mon, we know who the juicy targets are - we've uh - targeted them ourselves. Won't see the torps, won't see the mines, won't see the tractors, SNBs, won't see any attack - but you know they'll usually be within a certain range as the target takes damage...CPB and hope for the best. If not, SFM - EM - Scattering - Photonic - etc, etc, etc while making a run for it...cause you won't see them or anything they've got coming for you.
  • shookyangshookyang Member Posts: 1,122
    edited March 2013
    You can do 9 Sensors, run 4x Mk XII Sensor consoles, 125 Aux, use a Stealth detection deflector, pop an Aux batt, hit Sensor Scan...you'll see the Hegh'ta, Fleet Norgh, Fleet Hoh'SuS, and any raptors/battle cruisers that are cloaked - the ships watching the B'Rel fly at will - the B'Rel you'll never see.

    I think Mini said in the original thread that a guy in a Neb with the console(s) could see one sitting next to it? Would have to go look.

    Think some folks thought it was going to be fixed today, so they were trying to "enjoy" it in the days leading up to the patch - cause I've seen more folks flying them in Ker'rat. Some just on the KDF side and some glitching to hunt KDF. Found it futile to try to hunt them with my Fed Sci, whether Fed or KDF side. However, it's been kind of fun hunting them with my no-Tac Sci Hegh'ta.

    C'mon, we know who the juicy targets are - we've uh - targeted them ourselves. Won't see the torps, won't see the mines, won't see the tractors, SNBs, won't see any attack - but you know they'll usually be within a certain range as the target takes damage...CPB and hope for the best. If not, SFM - EM - Scattering - Photonic - etc, etc, etc while making a run for it...cause you won't see them or anything they've got coming for you.
    Hit their targetable stuff with gravity well. My fleetmates figured it out and kept decloaking me. Of course, I'd just hit evasive maneuvers and jam sensor the closest one following me and usually get away.
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    shookyang wrote: »
    Hit their targetable stuff with gravity well. My fleetmates figured it out and kept decloaking me. Of course, I'd just hit evasive maneuvers and jam sensor the closest one following me and usually get away.

    Targetable stuff doesn't always show. Sometimes there's just the explosions, damage, debuffs, etc appearing on the target.
  • mustafatennickmustafatennick Member Posts: 868 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    The thing is I wouldn't mind running some of these rommie Boffs for the defence boost and stuff but can't because then my ship is another damn bug

    and cryptic wonders why more and more people are only using dilit and not buying Zen(from the people I've met and spoke to)

    I personally used to spend ?20 a month on average on new toys but now due to the lack of kdf content and ever increasing bug find list I won't spend a penny

    I know that's a drop in the ocean for you lot but just fix the godforsaken bug already
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I know that's a drop in the ocean for you lot but just fix the godforsaken bug already

    We're not allowed to call for bug fixes any more - the PvE folks need their stuffs!
  • maicake716maicake716 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    You can see the effects (before te fix) of what an invisible Brel attacking you is like. Just check my movie thread and look at our duel.

    All his attacks were cloaked during his runs and the only giveaway was his power activation and me using cpb. My sensor scan did nothing, you can see at one point where after I scan he has to literally bump into me for me to see him.
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  • mustafatennickmustafatennick Member Posts: 868 Arc User
    edited March 2013
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    maicake716 wrote: »
    You can see the effects (before te fix) of what an invisible Brel attacking you is like. Just check my movie thread and look at our duel.

    All his attacks were cloaked during his runs and the only giveaway was his power activation and me using cpb. My sensor scan did nothing, you can see at one point where after I scan he has to literally bump into me for me to see him.

    Sensor scan doesn't work on a none bugged Brel

    We're not allowed to call for bug fixes any more - the PvE folks need their stuffs!
    Oh yeh forgot lolol :) those Borg artificial intelligence are just so insanely hard to take down their scripts just make you neeeed a bigger brain and a cheat button
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  • adaephondelatadaephondelat Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Really annoying bug. Was stalked by one of these ghosts in Kerrat, trying to transphase me to death. He didn't do much damage, but it was annoying as hell. There is nothing you can do, just sit and watch torps spamming out of nowhere.
  • shookyangshookyang Member Posts: 1,122
    edited March 2013
    Targetable stuff doesn't always show. Sometimes there's just the explosions, damage, debuffs, etc appearing on the target.
    My Bio-neural and Breen Cluster torpedoes are visible as soon as I launch them. My fleet mates would wait for me to launch them and then decloak me.

    I had to take them out of my firing rotation, or I'd keep getting killed.
  • mustafatennickmustafatennick Member Posts: 868 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    shookyang wrote: »
    My Bio-neural and Breen Cluster torpedoes are visible as soon as I launch them. My fleet mates would wait for me to launch them and then decloak me.

    I had to take them out of my firing rotation, or I'd keep getting killed.

    Well your not going to get far 1 v 1 in a Brel anyway
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  • illcadiaillcadia Member Posts: 1,415 Bug Hunter
    edited March 2013
    I've seen this in Kerrat. *Occasionally* the transphasic torp spread is visible, but not often. The cluster torp is invisible until the mines spawn, and the mines in general are immediately visible. But the ship doesn't drop its cloak at all with the romulan boff.



    Now, I can equip the MK 12 Jem'Hadar deflector, and the Tachyon Field console and fire those up after the enemy does his first pass. I will visually see him close to engage through the cloak- but the cloak effect (the transparency) does not drop AT ALL like it's supposed to, even with enough sensor skill to see him from 15 km out as he begins his attack run.

    If I have all that sensor kit, I can see the stuff he fires- but if I don't it's completely invisible- all I notice is that I'm taking damage and there's no apparent source- and that mines are spawning on top of me.
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