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Is the D'Kora EMP OP?

mattjohnsonvamattjohnsonva Member Posts: 4,974 Arc User
edited March 2013 in PvP Gameplay
The D'kora I was fighting uses EMP every 40 seconds, when caught it drops power to all systems to 30 for 10 seconds, then depending on your settings several more seconds before full power level is recovered. To me this ability is massively OP and if there were more D'Kora's using it I am sure there would be more calls for a nerf. I should add the player was popping Aux batteries and using high Aux to increase the effect, I do not know what the standard base effect is supposed to be.

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  • havamhavam Member Posts: 1,735 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    The EMP cd is 3min, what you have seen is a known exploit. I know because without intending to, i took it into the queues as well a couple of days ago. Stuff like this can happen, given the QnA experience we all enjoy from Cryptic.

    Needless to say, my D'kora is back at spacedock for the time being.

    Repro steps and stuff has been send to cryptic.

    EMP is not OP on a 3min cd, you also have to go inot the much sluggier defensive mode to use it. It is OP, on a 30s cd, but that one is bugged.
    Its a great cc ability, i just wish there was a corresponding sci BO thingie.

    just a friendly heads up: Discussing the details of an exploit breaks the forum rules, so pleas don't post any more details.
  • jivedutchjivedutch Member Posts: 358 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Considering most people would be flying the DKora in battle mode for increased manouverability & weapons power, and the rarity and price of the marauder it is one of the few cruisers capable of using dual cannons.

    The cause of your grief lies in the Battle Module
    EMP Burst
    Reduces Power Levels and Power Transfer
    Reduces all subsystem max energy to 30 for 6.7 sec
    Reduces Power Transfer Rate by 66% for 30 sec
    Reduces effectiveness of Power Transfer Rate buffs by 90% for 30 sec
    Prevents the use of batteries for 30 sec

    Good ships that dont rely on popping batteries & stuff all the time can take this, and i know plenty of PvP'rs dont have much issues countering this, but in an arranged group, this is one incredibly powerfull ability.
    But nowhere near as overpowered as the tanking this game gives to squishy escorts vs any other ship type currently.

    Name of the game, dont expect the backside of a D'Kora to be its weak spot as with all the other cruisers.
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  • doffingcomradedoffingcomrade Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Just use Engi Team, fixes that right away.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • darkfader1988darkfader1988 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Its OP.

    Its like a siphon carrier effect but different. hahaha
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  • praxi5praxi5 Member Posts: 1,562 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    havam wrote: »
    The EMP cd is 3min, what you have seen is a known exploit. I know because without intending to, i took it into the queues as well a couple of days ago. Stuff like this can happen, given the QnA experience we all enjoy from Cryptic.

    Needless to say, my D'kora is back at spacedock for the time being.

    Repro steps and stuff has been send to cryptic.

    EMP is not OP on a 3min cd, you also have to go inot the much sluggier defensive mode to use it. It is OP, on a 30s cd, but that one is bugged.
    Its a great cc ability, i just wish there was a corresponding sci BO thingie.

    just a friendly heads up: Discussing the details of an exploit breaks the forum rules, so pleas don't post any more details.

    Is it actually an exploit?

    The guy I ran into that was busting them out left and right was using Aux 2 Batt. I figured that would significantly nuke it's CD.
  • ussultimatumussultimatum Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    praxi5 wrote: »
    Is it actually an exploit?


    To my knowledge, the power in question is supposed be strictly limited to BOFF power cooldowns and not console powers, etc.
  • havamhavam Member Posts: 1,735 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    /snip

    for once we agree on something.

    Nothing in game should lower the CD of ship abilities like EMP.

    Wells consoles on time-ship is the exception, but works only on the two time ships afaik. the missiles you get every 3min on the D;kora in offensive mode don't seem to be affected. But i haven't run proper tests, after seeing what happened to emp.

    This is clearly borked, let's hope they fix it.
  • ussultimatumussultimatum Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    havam wrote: »
    for once we agree on something.

    Nothing in game should lower the CD of ship abilities like EMP.

    Wells consoles on time-ship is the exception, but works only on the two time ships afaik. the missiles you get every 3min on the D;kora in offensive mode don't seem to be affected. But i haven't run proper tests, after seeing what happened to emp.

    This is clearly borked, let's hope they fix it.


    I've edited my post to be a bit less clear.


    There is actually another incidence of interaction with the power in question and a particular special ship console having it's CD reduced which is also broken.
  • havamhavam Member Posts: 1,735 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I've edited my post to be a bit less clear.


    There is actually another incidence of interaction with the power in question and a particular special ship console having it's CD reduced which is also broken.

    Uh i didn't know....please let it be the nebula....perma TDG, FTW :)
  • ilhanskilhansk Member Posts: 620 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    praxi5 wrote: »
    Is it actually an exploit?

    The guy I ran into that was busting them out left and right was using Aux 2 Batt. I figured that would significantly nuke it's CD.


    That EMP exploit is actually very old news. It has not been fixed since Cryptic is very busy with more important stuff.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXUZgMVuJ2c

    In a nutshell, Aux2Batt reduces Bridge Officer Cooldowns. Reducing CD on a clickable P2W console like EMP seems to be a QA oversight.


    Can you imagine the qeues if every person was spamming AMS/Graviton every 30 seconds? :o
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  • ussultimatumussultimatum Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    havam wrote: »
    Uh i didn't know....please let it be the nebula....perma TDG, FTW :)

    It's not the Nebula, it's a ship that is available to both factions.
  • mimey2mimey2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    It's not the Nebula, it's a ship that is available to both factions.

    *hits buzzer* What are 'Elite Scorpion' pets?
    I remain empathetic to the concerns of my community, but do me a favor and lay off the god damn name calling and petty remarks. It will get you nowhere.
    I must admit, respect points to Trendy for laying down the law like that.
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  • ussultimatumussultimatum Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    mimey2 wrote: »
    *hits buzzer* What are 'Elite Scorpion' pets?


    I have no knowledge of that kind of interaction with Elite Scorpion pets, so I'm not sure if that is or is not an issue.


    It's not the ship I'm referring to. ;)
  • p2wsucksp2wsucks Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I wouldn't count on it getting fixed anytime soon. There's a similar issue w/the Vet console that was briefly fixed and broken again for months now.

    There was a time I felt the console was OP, but there's been a lot of power creep since then and now. Also, it has a range limit. Keep away from the ship if they're abusing it.
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  • darkfader1988darkfader1988 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    ilhansk wrote: »
    That EMP exploit is actually very old news. It has not been fixed since Cryptic is very busy with more important stuff.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXUZgMVuJ2c

    In a nutshell, Aux2Batt reduces Bridge Officer Cooldowns. Reducing CD on a clickable P2W console like EMP seems to be a QA oversight.


    Can you imagine the qeues if every person was spamming AMS/Graviton every 30 seconds? :o

    Thx 4 giving em new ideas hank, oh well perhaps we finally get more viable premades in the queues now haha :p
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  • mimey2mimey2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I have no knowledge of that kind of interaction with Elite Scorpion pets, so I'm not sure if that is or is not an issue.


    It's not the ship I'm referring to. ;)

    Darn. *snaps fingers* I guess I'll take 'Bugs and Errors' for 400 then. :P
    I remain empathetic to the concerns of my community, but do me a favor and lay off the god damn name calling and petty remarks. It will get you nowhere.
    I must admit, respect points to Trendy for laying down the law like that.
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