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ironmakoironmako Member Posts: 770 Arc User
edited March 2013 in Klingon Discussion
Hi all, So i hardly ever use my fed character (hence why i posted this here rather than the academy, as feds are all girls), and he has a lot of goodies which i would like to move to my KDF character. Is there any way that things can be transferred like bound/unbound inventory items, EC, dil, etc?

I've converted what dil i had to ZEN, so i have that put to good use, but the rest of it i wouldn't like to leave behind. All i will leave is one Decent ship with a decent loadout (for events and so on) and a loadout for my character and his away team.

Can stuff be transferred across, or is there restrictions?
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  • travelingmastertravelingmaster Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    The only restriction that's in place is that you can't transfer character-bound items. Those will be destroyed along with the character when you delete it, sadly.

    As for account-bound and un-bound items, you can either mail them to your KDF character, or use your account bank (it's in the list of options when you use a bank terminal). The account bank probably isn't very big, so you'll have to constantly switch between characters to move stuff out of the bank into your KDF toon's bank/inventory.
    My PvP toon is Krov, of The House of Snoo. Beware of my Hegh'ta of doom.
  • kadix1kadix1 Member Posts: 30 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    You can transfer dilithum -> zen -> dilithum

    You can mail duty officers, but a kdf character can't use fed duty officers to run missions; they're just fodder for donating to fleet projects.

    Non-bound inventory can be mailed. This includes crafting materials.

    I believe you can transfer EC using the account bank.

    Fleet Marks, Romulan Marks, Fleet Credit, and STF Marks cannot be transferred.
    Bound items cannot be transferred.
    Commendation XP cannot be transferred.
    Ships cannot be transferred.
    Bridge officers cannot be transferred.
    Character level cannot be transferred.


    As someone who switch from playing feds primarily to playing a KDF character primarily, I would NOT recommend switching to the KDF. Cryptic/PWE treats the KDF as second-class citizens.

    All of the new content is very focused on the federation side, and hobbled together to give the KDF something to do. For example, the KDF should be trying to conquer the Romulans while they are weak, but instead we're running the same "collect 25 glowing rocks" missions the feds have to help the Romulans.

    If it wasn't for the fact that my KDF character had advanced so much beyond where my Fed characters are, I'd have switched back to playing fed already.
  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I hope every Dev reads the last few lines of the post above mine. It hits to the heart of why the KDF is as unplayed as it is in STO.
    Not through a lack of a playerbase but through a lack of substance for said playerbase to enjoy playing.

    Fix and finish the KDF!
    Leonard Nimoy, Spock.....:(

    R.I.P
  • torbktorbk Member Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Yes. Have to agree.

    I actually don't do the Romulan content because I cannot see how any Klingon in his right state of mind would agree to help the Romulans.

    Beyond the main storyline arc given to Klingon players with the house of Martok and fighting off the Fek'lhri there's nothing truly Klingon. Its just the same episodic missions. Helping the Federation take back Deep Space 9 despite being at war with the Federation? Sure! We Klingons do that. Helping a bunch of Reman with honorless weapons against Romulans? Yes! Ok, at least its an excuse to kill Romulans? And now helping our old arch enemy the Romulans rebuild? What has the Empire come to?

    I have to agree with both kadix1 and bitemepwe (Roach?).

    On the other hand, welcome to the KDF.
    The user formerly known as Khern!
    I hate the fact Perfect World force-joined STO and PW accounts...
  • ironmakoironmako Member Posts: 770 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Ok, so i had best do a lot of mailing then! Many thanks for the tips guys!

    Apart from the account bank (which i just found out that i would have to spend some zen on) is there any way of mailing EC across or doing some kind of transfer? i would buy account slots, but my zen is building up for my ship modules, so i dont want to spend them yet. :)
  • fraghul2000fraghul2000 Member Posts: 1,590 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Apart from the account bank (which i just found out that i would have to spend some zen on)

    Just get a one-month subscription, which will unlock the account bank amongst a ton of other stuff (at least ~15,000 Zen worth of unlocks), and which you'll get to keep after the month expires.

    If you can't afford the 1-month subscription through regular means, just buy an old, unused retail version of the game (e.g. on amazon). Sometimes you can get them as low as $0.75 and they include one month of gametime.
  • twamtwam Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    You can buy stuff off the exchange, mail that to the kdf character and sell it on the exchange.

    Or you could just put up a single commodity for sale on the exchange, say an entertainment provision, for roughly the amount you wish to transfer. Put it up for sale on your KDF character, buy it on your Fed.

    I've once sold myself an entertainment provision for 32 mil, or something along those lines. Just make sure you're the only one in that price range, or enter a unique price (eg 2376358) and remember that. It'd be a pity of you accidentally sponsor someone else...

    Edit:
    Just get a one-month subscription, which will unlock the account bank amongst a ton of other stuff (at least ~15,000 Zen worth of unlocks), and which you'll get to keep after the month expires.

    Do you get to keep the account bank too? 'Cause that might make it worthwhile for me too...
  • ironmakoironmako Member Posts: 770 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Getting it for one month does sound worth it. Is there a full list of the stuff you get from a subscription?
  • doffingcomradedoffingcomrade Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Even if you want to switch to a primary KDF player, I strongly advise not burning down your Fed. Firstly, you can't use the slot for a new KDF character anyway, it's Fed-fixed. Secondly, Feds have...uses. There are benefits to the possession of a functional Fed character even if you are primarily a KDF player, and vice versa. As you increase your focus towards KDF, you will quickly discover this, and if you've burned down your Fedling, you'll be kicking yourself for it later.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • ironmakoironmako Member Posts: 770 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Even if you want to switch to a primary KDF player, I strongly advise not burning down your Fed. Firstly, you can't use the slot for a new KDF character anyway, it's Fed-fixed. Secondly, Feds have...uses. There are benefits to the possession of a functional Fed character even if you are primarily a KDF player, and vice versa. As you increase your focus towards KDF, you will quickly discover this, and if you've burned down your Fedling, you'll be kicking yourself for it later.

    I agree. I'm keeping my fed going with a fully equipped crusier and escort, but this is just going to be for Harvesting dilithium from STF's (which will get transferred to my KDF char via ZEN), and any events which may yield some goodies as well.

    As you can imagine, my fed had collected all the space packs, a lot of expensive/rare items as well as other bits and bobs which are better served on my more active char. The things which are bound, i will vendor scrap, and pass the excess cash over to my KDF char.
  • fraghul2000fraghul2000 Member Posts: 1,590 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    ironmako wrote: »
    Getting it for one month does sound worth it. Is there a full list of the stuff you get from a subscription?

    this is the stuff you get to keep without restriction when going back to "silver":

    - 500 Zen
    - respec tokens for every time you rank up while you are subscribed.
    - 30 inventory slots*
    - 4 Boff slots*
    - 2 ship slots*
    - 60 bank slots*
    - 20-slot account bank

    *values for level 50 characters. I don't know if you'll still get those if you have unlocked the maximum number of slots through the c-store already.

    restrictions apply for the following:

    - temporary EC cap increase.

    this will only be increased while you are subscribed. If you go silver and haven't unlocked the EC cap increase through the c-store, you'll go back to the 10 million limit. You will keep and still be able to use ECs you have stored above the cap, but you'll only be able to earn more after dropping back below 10 million again.

    - 1 character slot.

    similar to the EC cap increase. They'll take it away after you go back to silver, but you get to keep and play the character you created on that slot after the sub runs out. Afterwards, it also counts against any character slots you might purchase from the c-store.
  • azrahielazrahiel Member Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Hello, I'm coming back to STO after some time and I wanted to start this time on KDF side I have some questions.

    Does the KDF side have anything interesting to do endgame? PVE wise? I'm mostly thinking ship flying. I have Fed char but never got to max lvl. And I must say I'm switching because of the KDF ships looks, I never got into ST lore.

    Appreciate any answers.
  • wirtddwirtdd Member Posts: 211 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    :confused: Really? I mean, there is a thread asking why ppl is still playing kdf, I would ask: why, in the name of the holy cat, would u want to make a full transition to a forgotten faction that has been neglected for so long. U really need to read the forums more often.
    Bastet
  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    wirtdd wrote: »
    :confused: Really? I mean, there is a thread asking why ppl is still playing kdf, I would ask: why, in the name of the holy cat, would u want to make a full transition to a forgotten faction that has been neglected for so long. U really need to read the forums more often.

    People do what they feel like and what makes them have fun. Why is that concept so strange to understand?
    azrahiel wrote: »
    Hello, I'm coming back to STO after some time and I wanted to start this time on KDF side I have some questions.

    Does the KDF side have anything interesting to do endgame? PVE wise? I'm mostly thinking ship flying. I have Fed char but never got to max lvl. And I must say I'm switching because of the KDF ships looks, I never got into ST lore.

    Appreciate any answers.

    Well, if endgame is what you're talking about - the KDF doesn't actually lack anything at end game. We have less leveling content, less uniform options and less ships (which even so are quite cool I must say), but the KDF has access to the end-game content same as the Fed.
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  • wirtddwirtdd Member Posts: 211 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    shpoks wrote: »
    People do what they feel like and what makes them have fun. Why is that concept so strange to understand?

    Well maybe because is too hard for me to understand that all the kdf players, whinning and complaining on every thread they can, are actually having fun doing it.

    But u are right, ppl do like to suffer, which explains the question from the other thread.

    Thnx.
    Bastet
  • yreodredyreodred Member Posts: 3,527 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    torbk wrote: »
    Yes. Have to agree.

    I actually don't do the Romulan content because I cannot see how any Klingon in his right state of mind would agree to help the Romulans.

    Beyond the main storyline arc given to Klingon players with the house of Martok and fighting off the Fek'lhri there's nothing truly Klingon. Its just the same episodic missions. Helping the Federation take back Deep Space 9 despite being at war with the Federation? Sure! We Klingons do that. Helping a bunch of Reman with honorless weapons against Romulans? Yes! Ok, at least its an excuse to kill Romulans? And now helping our old arch enemy the Romulans rebuild? What has the Empire come to?
    Give Cryptics writers a chance it's already almost impossible for them to create real Star Trek like storys for the Federation, creating tuely Klingon storys must be almost impossible for them.

    I don't want to troll here, really.
    But as i seen them, Cryptic made the klingon faction not quite as i remember it from TV. Especially when it comes to their ships, special weapons (consoles) and culture.
    Most people seem to behave more like Jem hadar, trying to kill their targets if they are capable of defending themselves or not. I know Worf said on one occasion any kill is a good kill... but for me that seems like a cheap excuse and it contradics with almost anything Klingon honor stands for....

    In my opinion Klingons should celebrate Battle, honor their enemies in someway, which has something to do with fairness. Maybe every Klingon has his own interpretation of Honor.

    Sorry for beeing off topic.
    "...'With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured...the first thought forbidden...the first freedom denied--chains us all irrevocably.' ... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on, we're all damaged. I fear that today--" - (TNG) Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie

    A tale of two Picards
    (also applies to Star Trek in general)
  • azrahielazrahiel Member Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    shpoks wrote: »
    Well, if endgame is what you're talking about - the KDF doesn't actually lack anything at end game. We have less leveling content, less uniform options and less ships (which even so are quite cool I must say), but the KDF has access to the end-game content same as the Fed.

    Thank you for answer.
    See you in-game then :)
  • twamtwam Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    this is the stuff you get to keep without restriction when going back to "silver":

    - 500 Zen
    - respec tokens for every time you rank up while you are subscribed.
    - 30 inventory slots*
    - 4 Boff slots*
    - 2 ship slots*
    - 60 bank slots*
    - 20-slot account bank

    *values for level 50 characters. I don't know if you'll still get those if you have unlocked the maximum number of slots through the c-store already.

    restrictions apply for the following:

    - temporary EC cap increase.

    this will only be increased while you are subscribed. If you go silver and haven't unlocked the EC cap increase through the c-store, you'll go back to the 10 million limit. You will keep and still be able to use ECs you have stored above the cap, but you'll only be able to earn more after dropping back below 10 million again.

    - 1 character slot.

    similar to the EC cap increase. They'll take it away after you go back to silver, but you get to keep and play the character you created on that slot after the sub runs out. Afterwards, it also counts against any character slots you might purchase from the c-store.

    Thanks for this!

    I've been pestering the forums for some of these details a couple of times now, and this is the first time I see such a clear and complete breakdown.

    Considering that I'm currently planning for 2 extra ship slots on 2 characters, 2 extra boff slots on 3 or 4 and potentially the account bank, this would thus be interesting for me. Nice.
  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    wirtdd wrote: »
    Well maybe because is too hard for me to understand that all the kdf players, whinning and complaining on every thread they can, are actually having fun doing it.

    But u are right, ppl do like to suffer, which explains the question from the other thread.

    Thnx.

    I think you're mistaking whining with reasonable concerns.
    Whining is when the Fed. player that flies a 5 tac. console Fleet Defiant with cloak whines that it needs to be integrated and not a console. Whining is when the same player says that his cloak is worthless unless it is batllecloak.
    Whining is when they shout OP for the ships of a faction that hasn't received a Z-Store ship in a year. Whining is when Feds. like to get the ships of a faction that has 50% of the number of ships they have. I won't go any further, I hope you catch my drift...
    When a KDF player complains about the inability of the faction to attract players due to locked Klingon gameplay untill lvl 25, that's a reasonable concern.
    When a KDF player complains about the KDF not getting the equivalent of the new Fed. set of toys, that's not whining, that's reasonable concern about game & faction balance.

    I agree with you that there is much whining from both sides on the forums and even though we have quite some whiners in our rows as well, the majority of the KDF players is expressing reasonable concerns about the future of the faction and the game concept as a whole. We never wanted to take something from the Feds. and add to KDF, we just want equal or at least some kind of treatment as players of STO.
    yreodred wrote: »
    Give Cryptics writers a chance it's already almost impossible for them to create real Star Trek like storys for the Federation, creating tuely Klingon storys must be almost impossible for them.

    Actually, due to the nature of the game and MMOs in general, I believe that it's far easier for them to write Klingon stories and missions then Fed. ones. Klingons thrive on battle and kill this-kill that is the bottomline in STO atm.
    I believe that making authentic Fed. missions with the diplomatic & negotiation approach is far more complicated.
    azrahiel wrote: »
    Thank you for answer.
    See you in-game then :)

    Sure. Wellcome to the KDF! ;)
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  • lanessar13lanessar13 Member Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Not sure why someone would not want to play KDF. I started the game last week and am at level 22 Fed simply to be able to play KDF.

    Now, I'm old-school. Back in EQ days, you used to grind mobs for three days to gain a level. You didn't get "quests" or missions. Open spot. Kill goblins. Level. Repeat. Sure, content would be great, and I'd love to see some KDF-specific missions.

    But I'm not going to get all weepy if I have to do maurauding tasks or exploration missions to keep going on. I'm pretty sure there is nothing worse than leveling a bard from 30-60 in EQ that these designers can throw at me. The worst grind since was Wintersaber faction in vanilla WoW, but after EQ, it seemed pretty quick.

    In fact, a nice sh*t sandwich might be what attracts me to the faction. *ponders*
  • wirtddwirtdd Member Posts: 211 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    shpoks wrote: »
    I think you're mistaking whining with reasonable concerns.
    ...( Unecessary stuff)...
    We never wanted to take something from the Feds. and add to KDF, we just want equal or at least some kind of treatment as players of STO.

    Yes, I guess "whinning" is not the right word. My excuse: english is not even my second language. And I do agree with most of ur (kdf players) "concerns".
    Bastet
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