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Just get it over with and delete KDF faction

bulabajonesbulabajones Member Posts: 73 Arc User
edited February 2013 in Klingon Discussion
With the news of a FIVE FORE weapon ship coming out -ONLY- for Feds http://sto.perfectworld.com/news/?p=821871 , the existence of TWO Fed ships with five tactical consoles, and the utter lack of new content for KDF... why don't you people at Cryptic just finish boning the entire KDF faction and get it over with?

Maybe there's a reason about 15% of players play KDF primarily: we have extremely limited costume choices, extremely limited ship choices ("extremely" now because of the 5 tac consoles/5 fore weapons on Fed ships now with NO KDF equivalent at all), extremely limited mission development, and the utter lack of new content on a consistent basis.

You people at Cryptic could do something as lazy and as little work (since you guys don't really like doing work) as creating carbon copies of said Fed ships. Now, with Fed players getting unarguably the best ship in the game in 2 days time, what the hell is the point in anyone wanting to play KDF now? Do you people think we don't have zen and $$$ too?

You people have lost any income you'll ever get from me. This is complete bull****.
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  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    This didn't take long
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  • tsurutafan01tsurutafan01 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    If deleting the KDF will get rid of about three quarters of their forum posters, I couldn't agree more.


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  • marc8219marc8219 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    You seen the boff layout on the thing, its worst layout ever. Don't worry so much.
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  • trek21trek21 Member Posts: 2,246 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Where's your honor man? We're warriors, not cowards who rage at every little thing that we don't like ;)

    Consider it a challenge. Much like every other escort the Feds have, if they get you in their forward arc, you're already dead... but avoid that, and you can tear them apart like a balloon. Even easier than the rest of them are
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  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
    Let me put the rumors to rest: it's definitely still the C-Store (Cryptic Store) It just takes ZEN.
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  • hiplyrustichiplyrustic Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    neoakiraii wrote: »
    This didn't take long


    Are you kidding???

    It took 25 minutes from the time the Kumari post went up. I'm shocked at the restraint shown by the community on this one. ;)

    PS: lmao at how fast this got dropkicked out of the general feedback section.
  • kamiyama317kamiyama317 Member Posts: 1,295 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    The tactical variant with 5 tactical consoles on it is a flying tombstone. It has only 3 possible non-tactical BO abilities. One ensign engineer and one lieutenant universal.

    Not to mention, if you really want to maximize the damage from this thing, you will want the three piece console set. So that dedicated 8 consoles to damage - 5 tac consoles for energy weapons, and then 3 of your engineering or science consoles for the andorian console set.
  • marc8219marc8219 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    The tactical variant with 5 tactical consoles on it is a flying tombstone. It has only 3 possible non-tactical BO abilities. One ensign engineer and one lieutenant universal.

    Not to mention, if you really want to maximize the damage from this thing, you will want the three piece console set. So that dedicated 8 consoles to damage - 5 tac consoles for energy weapons, and then 3 of your engineering or science consoles for the andorian console set.

    Ok didnt notice it was only the tac version that had the horrible layout. Well its still nice to know that they will be forced to use the 4 tac console versions or die a lot.
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  • smokeybacon90smokeybacon90 Member Posts: 2,252 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    The Engi one looks reasonable. The Tac one is too specialized, I can see this thing popping very quickly.
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  • qjuniorqjunior Member Posts: 2,023 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    *yawn* :rolleyes:
  • lordmalak1lordmalak1 Member Posts: 4,681 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I thought the SCI one was the most reasonable, but I still havent stopped laughing from the 85 crew spec.

    Thats wha, 1 hull per 6 seconds natural recovery rate ?
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  • trek21trek21 Member Posts: 2,246 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    lordmalak1 wrote: »
    I thought the SCI one was the most reasonable, but I still havent stopped laughing from the 85 crew spec.

    Thats wha, 1 hull per 6 seconds natural recovery rate ?
    Probably :D

    Just another reason how it's excellent damage-dealing ability is offset by it's subpar *cough terrible cough* survival ability. It makes our BOP's look sturdy by comparsion XD
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  • darkwhite0darkwhite0 Member Posts: 158 Arc User
    edited February 2013
  • rakija879rakija879 Member Posts: 646 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    With the news of a FIVE FORE weapon ship coming out -ONLY- for Feds http://sto.perfectworld.com/news/?p=821871 , the existence of TWO Fed ships with five tactical consoles, and the utter lack of new content for KDF... why don't you people at Cryptic just finish boning the entire KDF faction and get it over with?

    Maybe there's a reason about 15% of players play KDF primarily: we have extremely limited costume choices, extremely limited ship choices ("extremely" now because of the 5 tac consoles/5 fore weapons on Fed ships now with NO KDF equivalent at all), extremely limited mission development, and the utter lack of new content on a consistent basis.

    You people at Cryptic could do something as lazy and as little work (since you guys don't really like doing work) as creating carbon copies of said Fed ships. Now, with Fed players getting unarguably the best ship in the game in 2 days time, what the hell is the point in anyone wanting to play KDF now? Do you people think we don't have zen and $$$ too?

    You people have lost any income you'll ever get from me. This is complete bull****.

    That ship is toast without good team support :cool:
  • plox21plox21 Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    now we need to wait for slap in face , knife in back , phaser beam to face etc comments from other unsatisfied KDF players......oh wait....now we can say that we got ushaan-tor in face/back :D.
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  • misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    What worries you so much?
    That a foolish Federation Captain will learn the hard way that firing too many weapons at once leaves your power levels near room temperature?
    Or that 5 frontal weapons don't help much when the only enemy you can outmaneuver packed RSP?
    Or that 2 rear weapons work only on a BoP because it's gonna fly circles around an Adorian Escort?
  • bubblygumsworthbubblygumsworth Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I cant wait until this thing goes live. Ker'rat will be fun. Be on the lookout for more "give feds battlecloak/ KDF is OP/ My c-store ship was nuked by a free BoP" threads.
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  • dixa1dixa1 Member Posts: 92 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    4 dhc's front is a massive power drain. that's almost 5 beams on it's own. you then add in a 5th dhc and/or whatever you have in the back and this may be a ship better suited to two torp launchers up front.

    for the role the kumari is being aimed at, the bop's do it better due to universal boff slotting. however those wing cannons have to be parsed with and without 3pc consoles. if they become competitive or exceed abop damage in pve, there may be cause for concern (also depending on duration and cooldown).
  • vitzhvitzh Member Posts: 519
    edited February 2013
  • wolfexile1wolfexile1 Member Posts: 63 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I don't see how scrapping everything helps.
  • farmallmfarmallm Member Posts: 4,630 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    It kinda reminds me of the Zero fighter from World War II. Fast, packs firepower but no armor for defense. So they was easily to shoot down if you can hit them. Even though it has like 5 weapons forward. Look at the rear and side, little to nothing. Lock in a tractor beam and let them have it. If I was into PVP. I would try it and light them up with my front cannons on my Battlecruiser. There is a way around it, just got to find the weakness and exploit it. That is what any Klingon Captain would do.
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  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    OP, you serious or just trolling us?? :)

    It's a amusing ship, it's something different, but nothing to be worried about nor dissapointed about for that record.

    Please disperse, nothing to see here! Nothing to see here! :D
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  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    wolfexile1 wrote: »
    I don't see how scrapping everything helps.

    It would open up a tinsy bit of time on the dev team so they can develop that Romulan faction?
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  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    shpoks wrote: »
    OP, you serious or just trolling us?? :)

    It's a amusing ship, it's something different, but nothing to be worried about nor dissapointed about for that record.

    Please disperse, nothing to see here! Nothing to see here! :D

    So you actively do not want a 5 tactical console ship available on the KDF side?
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  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    If deleting the KDF will get rid of about three quarters of their forum posters, I couldn't agree more.

    Riiight becuase you feds are the beacon of patience and mild temperance on the forums all day long and twice on Sundays....

    Pot meet kettle.
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  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    So you actively do not want a 5 tactical console ship available on the KDF side?

    It's not about wheather I want or don't want that.

    It's about the Fed. having the Fleet Defiant and Prometheus with 5 tac. consoles not being that much intimidating or game breaking for the KDF so far.

    And it's about the Kumari class not being OP and game breaking or a threat for the KDF if we don't get a 5 forward weapons ship any time soon.

    It's about not screaming "To hell with KDF" over this. I expected it worse. They actually managed to make the Kumari nicely balanced, it wont break the other escorts in game as some suspect nor it will be an unsolvable puzzle for the KDF captains that makes them resign the KDF. It's just something fresh & different.
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  • bulabajonesbulabajones Member Posts: 73 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    To be clear: no, I was not actually seriously suggesting STO delete the KDF faction.

    It's true that 5 DHC or 4 DHC + 1 QHC would drain energy more than usual. It's also true that the Kumari doesn't have the best boff setup. I don't actually think this Kumari breaks the game or that STO is over for KDF.

    The point is that yet again, new content added to the game is... not just Fed side, but ONLY Fed side. Instead of 2 Fed-only ships available only through the Fed side c-store having 5 tactical consoles, they're getting another. On top of that, they're getting the only 5 fore weapon ship in the entire game. The ship itself will require some creative piloting to optimize it, but that doesn't change the glaring fact that Cryptic seems to have continued to forget there's a KDF faction these 3 years.

    It's also pretty typical to expect a handful of snotty replies from Fed players when anyone points out that there is a severely underdeveloped faction in STO. I realize Fed players mostly only excel at failing STF optionals, and that we'll probably won't have much to fear from Fed players who generally are terrible at PVE and PVP even with a 5 fore-gun ship, but it's still extremely not cool that yet again, KDF gets nothing. Not even a carbon copy. Sad.
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  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    plox21 wrote: »
    now we need to wait for slap in face , knife in back , phaser beam to face etc comments from other unsatisfied KDF players......oh wait....now we can say that we got ushaan-tor in face/back :D.

    I guess you where not here for the fed bitchfest when the KDF got thier last big group of
    Ships released to them and oh how the feds whined for months about it.
    And then tried to justify thier own childish rants about it.

    Poor hypocritical feds, so quick to judge others but defend themselves when they act the same.
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  • tatyanasergeitatyanasergei Member Posts: 186 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    bitemepwe wrote: »
    I guess you where not here for the fed bitchfest when the KDF got thier last big group of
    Ships released to them and oh how the feds whined for months about it.
    And then tried to justify thier own childish rants about it.

    Poor hypocritical feds, so quick to judge others but defend themselves when they act the same.

    It's posts like these that make me wish we had a like button.

    The Federation posters need to stop acting like self-righteous jerks. They rage just as much whenever the KDF gets something that is actually good.
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  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    It would open up a tinsy bit of time on the dev team so they can develop that Romulan faction?

    Funny. Looking at your avatar, are you who I think you are?
    If so, you been missed.
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