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So I am flying my Tac Vesta, Aux Cannons etc etc. I warp into Kerrat. Some klinks spot me and are all like 'lulz a vesta lets go pwn it" etc etc. I activate APA, GWIII, APD, and RFII. I get some lols to my self, seeing 2 burning BoP hulks.:D
I don't understand why people think the Vesta is so weak. Silly klinks.
I don't understand why people think the Vesta is so weak. Silly klinks.
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i had to laugh
was in my fleet excel and it took 2 klinks to finish me
i guess i was a bit much for the one :cool:
So you killed 2 BoPs in Kerrat, therefore... you can kill all BoPs in Kerrat??? Not sure I understand this logical fallacy, or even the point of the post...
You don't understand why people think the Vesta is weak, therefore, klingons are silly... Thanks for the non sequitur...
I love how these kdf/fed TRIBBLE throwing threads always seem to feature a lot of synched up cycles... Let's keep it going, good stuff...
People think its so weak because 99.99% o owner saw it in the cstore and went ohhhh wows shiny paid a fortune for it
They then run all three consoles instead of armour they then run dhc without any knowledge to really get them in arc
Plus with the turn rate it has a real bop flyer wouldn't let you get even one hit on them and I real pvper wouldn't type into chat what he's going to do before hand and would probably be running APOx2 which enables you to dance in and out of grav well going lol lol lol and a real bop flyer wouldn't let you see him until the BO3 takes down your shield facing
So just because you shot down 2 bops which happen to be the easiest clas of ship in game to destroy Incase you didn't realise, doesn't mean that the vesta is better it just means you were better than the 2 said pilots which doesn't sound like a mean feat tbh
screens or ur lying...etc etc
killing anything besides npcs without dhcs, especially battlecloaking bops in kerrat is sorta hard to believe etc etc
There is only one type of "Aux Cannon" and that is the Aux DHC. Its implied that its a DHC.
Pretty much this when it comes to the BoPs. Sounds to me like he killed two guys who didn't know how to use the BoP. If that had been his response to an attack from me (or, heaven help him, an attack from me and Zirac/some other decent BoP ambusher), he'd be wreckage. . .because my BO2/BO3 + RF2 + HY3 attack would've blasted him to pieces. If they didn't, I'd be well on my way outta there before he fires his silly aux DHC at me.
Am i reading this right? Sounds like your saying yeah you killed two people, but if it were me and 2 of my buddys you wouldnt win?
And since when did the klinks turn into the galaxys happy slappers? Cant any of you stay around for a fight anymore?
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This made me giggle.
Visual thinker here; seeing the Klingons moving in, punching a ship in the face and then running off while laughing their backsides off was a good image.
A much more comical approach to the generally serious pastime of warfare, if you will.
Anyway, I think he meant himself and 1 other person, equalling the 2 people of the post he was referring to. And I agree, you gotta be a pretty decent captain to stand up to two good simultaneous BoP Alpha's from cloak. I doubt there'd be much appeal to running after that, as it'd be more attractive to stick around and finish it, if needed.
A failed alpha? Yes, evasives'd make sense, considering the average durability of a BoP in a 'fair' fight against anything but the Aquarius. After the alpha, all weapon abilities'd be on cooldown, and evasive action for at least 15 seconds will provide a better secondary attack run.
In short there are no bad ships, just bad players.
This. Exactly this. If I happened to be flying a Raptor (or a battlecruiser, for that matter), I'd stick around and dogfight. As it is, I fly a BoP. . .and BoPs don't 'slug it out'. Not in this game, anyhow. It's meant to be quick, maneuverable, and fast-hitting. . .either that, or a makeshift offensive sci vessel using tractor beams, gravity wells, etc. BoPs definitely have their purpose in PvP, it just takes skilled handling.
Aside from the fact that I specified 'Me and ONE other buddy' (making for two BoPs, total), that's exactly what I'm saying. Especially if that was your reaction to a decloak alphastrike. From your description, you fought two incompetent BoP pilots. They botched their alphastrike, and then farted around long enough for you to kill them.
I've taken on relatively well-known skilled players and won using BoP tactics and quick dogfighting. I disable enemies and then flense their shields and hull away. I lay down warp plasma. I time my attacks to try leaving the minimum amount of 'exposed time' out of cloak. That's what skilled BoP pilots do.
These fellows you claim to have killed probably did none of these things, and probably even attacked from the front arc like fools.
I've pulled it off, but I usually only get 1-2 tries against a sci pilot before they wise up and start paying attention to their surroundings and using sensor scans, boosting aux, etc.
I especially hate that advanced fire-while-cloaked cloak. I just got chased by 2 BOP's who kept firing Torps at me while cloaked/cloaking. He kept doing it from 9k out so he could dip out of my firing range until he was cloaked again.
Didn't kill me, Didn't really do any damage, it was just annoying to have this little fly trailing me like that and being able to fire while cloaked.
*InB4 obligatory "you're doing it wrong tard" from someone whose been playing the game for 12 years and is so much smarter than me because I'm so dumb...
Not that I've tested it, but the Vesta super shield *should* be knocked out by PSW-style stuns the same way the other Vesta consoles are.
Uh... what? Virtually all Sci Ships are 3/3 with Sensor Analysis.
It's a very versatile and fun ship and the three piece console set is not only very useful but the bonus power that comes with it, along with the the Borg Tractor beam and cutting beam, etc... makes it not only fun to use but keeps enemy targets guessing as to what I am coming at them with next.
I also found that, in PVP especially, Pugging it has taught me not many players even try to heal escorts. I usually do some of the healing in my Mobius or even Defiant (as limited as it is obviously - Hazard Emitters and Extend Shields :rolleyes:). So going in with a ship that comes with so many ways to heal and to be effective as well was great. This is especially true of some of the BOFF skills I rarely ever see or use as a result of using an escort.
Naturally I died regularly, but equally I managed to get a few kills in, my highest being 7 in one particular match. No, I wasn't "kirking" it either, I was genuinely trying to fulfill a gap and heal my team mates whilst concentrating fire on the ship they were shooting at. (God forbid PUG's actually communicate through chat....lol).
In one instance I used my DHC (x3) (CRF + Beta) to rip through a carrier's rear shields and than used the Vesta's primary Beam weapon along with CSV to hammer it down to oblivion. Admittedly, those moments with that weapon is few and far between but its a thrill nevertheless.
Anyways, just wanted to throw my two cents in.
BoPs are not incompetence-friendly ships. They're squishy and require some skill to truly use. You at least have to have a sense of timing and positioning in order to do the hit-and-run alphastrikes from decloak, because those can be shrugged off easily if you don't time it right.
And everyone thinks cloaks are overpowered. HAH!
The shinies certainly make some combat difficult, including in Ker'rat, but I can still blow 'em up in my trusty ol' Hegh'ta. It's just harder to do, because they have a lot more toys to use. Still doesn't compensate for the lack of skill, and it won't compensate for my driving a figurative d'k'tagh through their hearts when I see a weakness in their defenses.