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Important Update Regarding the 2012 Limited-Time Holiday Fleet Project

pwebranflakespwebranflakes Member Posts: 7,741
edited February 2013 in Galactic News Network [PC]
Hi Captains!

I have quick update for you all regarding the 2012 Limited-Time Holiday Fleet Project (Breen Warship starbase ornament).

===UPDATE! (02/13/2013 @ 1:45PM) From the recent Tribble patch notes:===
Thanks to your feedback, we have made a few more changes on how the cancelation of this project will work. Here are the release notes from Tribble:
General:
  • The Winter 2012 Fleet Project can now be cancelled.
    • Only a Fleet Leader will be able to cancel this project.
    • This permission cannot be delegated to members of lower ranks.
    • Any items donated toward the completion of the project will be lost and not refunded.
    • Any Fleet Credit earned by donating to this project is kept.


On the morning of Thursday, February 14th, we will be removing the project from fleet's who have slotted it but have not completed it yet. There will be no refund of holiday commodities that have been contributed thus far, but you will keep any fleet credits you've earned for contributing towards the project. If your fleet would like to earn the ornament, please ensure you complete it before this time (just about a week from now) -- please also ensure that the countdown is complete before that morning (i.e. start the project the night before). If you need more commodities to complete the project, visit the exchange as there are many listed for sale.

Any fleet that has completed the project before server maintenance on Thursday, February 14th, will be unaffected.

Thanks, and we'll see you in-game!

Cheers,

Brandon =/\=
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  • sean2448sean2448 Member Posts: 815 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    um I thought when we completed it we would get the ship for the amount of time it took
  • rocknrobot1rocknrobot1 Member Posts: 39 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    O.o

    Some people will not be amused about that...
  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    This is going to end... badly...


    Oh and...

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  • rjewkesrjewkes Member Posts: 237 Arc User
    edited February 2013
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  • pwebranflakespwebranflakes Member Posts: 7,741
    edited February 2013
    daveyny wrote: »
    This is going to end...badly...

    I'm not sure how? :confused: This is just removing the project so that fleets are not stuck with it who can not complete it. The exchange is now the only way to get these commodities (unless fellow fleet mates have unopened commodity bundles, or are keeping extra in their banks). The project was always listed as a "limited-time" and at least one dev posted that we'd offer a solution to remove it if you were not able to finish it so you were not stuck with it :) And we're giving notice if you'd like to actually finish it.

    Cheers,

    Brandon =/\=
  • usscapitalusscapital Member Posts: 985 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    may we ask why this is happening ? , it seems a little odd does it not ? .

    it is like cryptic is punishing the people who have yet to finish this project :confused:
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  • psycoticvulcanpsycoticvulcan Member Posts: 4,160 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Making removing the project optional might be a better approach.
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  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    rjewkes wrote: »
    This post has been edited to remove content which violates the Perfect World Entertainment Community Rules and Policies . ~BranFlakes

    Lets not get too carried away here...

    It's ONLY the 2012 Bauble Fleet Project that's being effected.
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  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    pwebranflakes wrote: »
    I'm not sure how? :confused: This is just removing the project so that fleets are not stuck with it who can not complete it. The exchange is now the only way to get these commodities (unless fellow fleet mates have unopened commodity bundles, or are keeping extra in their banks). The project was always listed as a "limited-time" and at least one dev posted that we'd offer a solution to remove it if you were not able to finish it so you were not stuck with it :) And we're giving notice if you'd like to actually finish it.

    Cheers,

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    Uh-huh...

    Never mind that Your announcement just made every last ornament in the Exchange...,

    Jump in price by a few Million EC's...
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  • jcswwjcsww Member Posts: 6,825 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    pwebranflakes wrote: »
    I'm not sure how? :confused: This is just removing the project so that fleets are not stuck with it who can not complete it. The exchange is now the only way to get these commodities (unless fellow fleet mates have unopened commodity bundles, or are keeping extra in their banks). The project was always listed as a "limited-time" and at least one dev posted that we'd offer a solution to remove it if you were not able to finish it so you were not stuck with it :) And we're giving notice if you'd like to actually finish it.

    Cheers,

    Brandon =/\=

    Why not just allow fleet leaders to dismiss it if they wish instead of forcing the choice on everyone?
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  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    jcsww wrote: »
    Why not just allow fleet leaders to dismiss it if they wish instead of forcing the choice on everyone?

    Indeed, as a now missing post would seem to prove my point...

    As stated above, a much wiser move would have been to allow the Fleets to decide whether to continue or not...

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  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    pwebranflakes wrote: »
    I'm not sure how? :confused: This is just removing the project so that fleets are not stuck with it who can not complete it. The exchange is now the only way to get these commodities (unless fellow fleet mates have unopened commodity bundles, or are keeping extra in their banks). The project was always listed as a "limited-time" and at least one dev posted that we'd offer a solution to remove it if you were not able to finish it so you were not stuck with it :) And we're giving notice if you'd like to actually finish it.

    Cheers,

    Brandon =/\=

    This is not Offering a Solution...

    This is detrimentally removing it with out so much as a how-do-you-do.

    I have nothing at stake here as my one man fleet never even considered this project...

    But even I can see how this is going to bring down loads of hard feelings upon your already shaky relationship with a portion of the player base.
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  • kalanikalani Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    pwebranflakes wrote: »
    I'm not sure how? :confused: This is just removing the project so that fleets are not stuck with it who can not complete it. The exchange is now the only way to get these commodities (unless fellow fleet mates have unopened commodity bundles, or are keeping extra in their banks). The project was always listed as a "limited-time" and at least one dev posted that we'd offer a solution to remove it if you were not able to finish it so you were not stuck with it :) And we're giving notice if you'd like to actually finish it.

    Cheers,

    Brandon =/\=

    The date of this probably should have been released a while ago at this point any solo fleet who's member has been working on this gradually as he or she can afford it will pretty much lose out. Instead a project that costs say 1 fleet mark should have been made available that will remove the breen projects when completed or a contact could have been placed on the Fleet base to do so that only a fleet leader can interact with.
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  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    My suggestion...

    Offer something really, really great to the player base on Valentines Day, so as to minimize the fallout from those folks who don't see this thread till it's too late.
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  • bclark09bclark09 Member Posts: 48 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    pwebranflakes wrote: »
    I'm not sure how? :confused: This is just removing the project so that fleets are not stuck with it who can not complete it. The exchange is now the only way to get these commodities (unless fellow fleet mates have unopened commodity bundles, or are keeping extra in their banks). The project was always listed as a "limited-time" and at least one dev posted that we'd offer a solution to remove it if you were not able to finish it so you were not stuck with it :) And we're giving notice if you'd like to actually finish it.

    Cheers,

    Brandon =/\=

    I can't speak for the others, but I was given the impression that if the project wasn't completed by the time the winter event was over, the remaining balance of incomplete materials would be converted to dilithium and the project could be finished that way. My fleet finished it last week, thankfully, but I really feel sorry for the people who have spent time and quite possibly Lobi (aka, real money) into gathering the resources for this are having their efforts wiped away. And no, fleet credits are not a satisfactory means of compensation when real money is potentially involved.

    I seriously hope you guys rethink this decision.
  • cerritourugcerritourug Member Posts: 1,376 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Please, and I think that most of the fleet agrees, make this ornament hide on default!
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  • tc10btc10b Member Posts: 1,549 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    cerritourug wrote: »
    Please, and I think that most of the fleet agrees, make this ornament hide on default!

    This, so much this. It's such an eyesore.

    I guess this means we are getting a new project on the 14th then. Wonder what that will be?
  • usscapitalusscapital Member Posts: 985 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    tc10b wrote: »
    I guess this means we are getting a new project on the 14th then. Wonder what that will be?

    something worth 200k dilithium you mean ? , erm let me see nope
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  • nierionnierion Member Posts: 326 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Ah, and here goes the common sense again with the decision making.

    I wish Cryptic wouldn't always live up to their name when it comes to decisions!
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  • bootybootsbootyboots Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    why not just change the required inputs like you did with the chef and bartender?


    this doesn't affect my fleets but man I would be mad and it sets a bad precedent.


    and seriously? search the exchange? you guys fix that thing yet? last time i checked you couldn't even properly find 2 of the six holiday items
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  • theanothernametheanothername Member Posts: 1,511 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    cerritourug wrote: »
    Please, and I think that most of the fleet agrees, make this ornament hide on default!

    Unlike the super annoying tribbles which ruins any serious meeting at the Starbase that 2012 project at least stays switched off if switched off (and is by default less annoying that all these constant respawning supersized ratpiles) /grumpy mode
  • kalanikalani Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    theanothername wrote: »
    Unlike the super annoying tribbles which ruins any serious meeting at the Starbase that 2012 project at least stays switched off if switched off (and is by default less annoying that all these constant respawning supersized ratpiles) /grumpy mode

    Im just waiting for the 200k dilithium project to remove the tribbles.
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  • hfmuddhfmudd Member Posts: 881 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    cerritourug wrote: »
    Please, and I think that most of the fleet agrees, make this ornament hide on default!

    And while you're at it, the tribbles, please. A lot of people are regretting ever building that project.
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  • gypsybladegypsyblade Member Posts: 730 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Being able to cancel projects would be a better choice in the long run. Seeing as the tech could be applied to Starbases, Embassies, and Reputation. Much better than driving prices on the exchange up
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  • srafaoraspsrafaorasp Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    kalani2 wrote: »
    The date of this probably should have been released a while ago at this point any solo fleet......

    Solo Fleets should loose out. it is a fleet not a solo.
  • usscapitalusscapital Member Posts: 985 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    srafaorasp wrote: »
    Solo Fleets should loose out. it is a fleet not a solo.

    sorry but what a dumb reply , my own fleet had a lot of members leave for bigger fleets .

    so we should suffer for this ? (although i am not yet a solo fleet)
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  • davidwforddavidwford Member Posts: 1,836 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    starkaos wrote: »
    Not sure about the price, but you can get them from the exchange. There is also the lobi store that sells a pack that gives them.

    I don't relish the idea of paying exorbant prices on the exchange. As for the Lobi Store, I have not seen those packs.
  • seldrinseldrin Member Posts: 45 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Common sense is lacking in this move Brandon. Consider this...

    Most people who have not completed this project are likely smaller fleets that have fewer members to provide resources.

    Thus, those providing the resources for any projects are likely to have a lot of fleet credits without this holiday event, possibly more than they know what to do with. They didn't start the project because they needed fleet credits, they started it because they wanted the cool project.

    As stated, before by posting this you've made an already small supply of winter commodities in even more demand than they were before by saying, "Hurry up or we'll scrap the whole thing!"

    To be honest, in my small little fleet I was saddened that we didn't finish it during the Christmas event, but I figured oh well it'll get finished quickly next winter. As for possible specialty missions that we'd miss out on, no big deal Cryptic said they'll offer those over again and again. And my fleet is not big enough to need the filler projects that allow large fleets to get more fleet credits opportunities to their fleet members.

    By default this should be left alone, if you want to offer help to fleets that no longer wish to keep this project active fine then do so. But do not assUme you are helping my fleet by removing this project, it is well over half way completed and fleet credits are worthless to me at this point.
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  • kiralynkiralyn Member Posts: 1,576 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    daveyny wrote: »
    Uh-huh...

    Never mind that Your announcement just made every last ornament in the Exchange...,

    Jump in price by a few Million EC's...


    Haven't really paid attention to the market recently. As someone who might possibly have a few hundred ornaments sitting in their bank, what would be a fair price to offer to fleets at this point? ;)
  • nicha0nicha0 Member Posts: 1,456 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Both the tribble and the holiday projects are giant failures. The fleets who haven't finished this yet are getting a blessing in disguise, they might think they want this ornament but they really don't. It is a giant revolting spinning globe in the centre of the base with a horribly un-star trek 2012 written on it. It would have been fine had it been like a breen tactical model in the holodeck or something

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